The Celeberty Game! (or anyone famous you can think of, past or present) - Page 115

sunfish · 11-20-2009, 09:17 AM

Peggy OF Mondo

OOPS

lorax · 11-20-2009, 09:38 AM

Veronica Lake

bencelest · 11-20-2009, 10:00 AM

Judge Leonie Brinkema, who presided over Moussaoui's trial

bencelest · 11-20-2009, 12:21 PM

Bill CammackBill Cammack
Bill Cammack is an MIT graduate, Emmy Award-Winning video editor,

harveyc · 11-20-2009, 12:38 PM

Cynthia Ann Stephanie "Cyndi" Lauper - singer

harveyc · 11-20-2009, 12:40 PM

Thanks, Beth, very informative and detailed post on the names. Maybe it can get copied and quoted into the first post of this thread for easier reference when we're at page 200 or so...

So what's your take on the first letter of Vince van Gogh? Not that it matters at this point, but it's the name that started this discussion.

bencelest · 11-20-2009, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harveyc

Thanks, Beth,
So what's your take on the first letter of Vince van Gogh? Not that it matters at this point, but it's the name that started this discussion.

Beth? Who is she Harvey?

sunfish · 11-20-2009, 01:00 PM

Lee KriegerActor: "The Andy Griffith Show: The Bank Job

Patty in Wisc · 11-20-2009, 01:06 PM

Loraxes 'Germaine de Paris' (last post pg 114) was picked up by Sunfish as
'Gerold of Vinzgouw'. Name shoulda started w/ a P from Paris!!!! Please pay attention!
Thank you Beth for the nice explain. So, I was somewhat right. In the name of Van Gogh, the next name would start with V.
(Benny, Beth is Lorax)
So now what? should start from Germaine de Paris --P.

BananaLee · 11-20-2009, 01:08 PM

Judge Judy

harveyc · 11-20-2009, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patty in Wisc

Loraxes 'Germaine de Paris' (last post pg 114) was picked up by Sunfish as
'Gerold of Vinzgouw'. Name shoulda started w/ a P from Paris!!!! Please pay attention!
Thank you Beth for the nice explain. So, I was somewhat right. In the name of Van Gogh, the next name would start with V.
(Benny, Beth is Lorax)
So now what? should start from Germaine de Paris --P.

Please pay attention, Patty!

Beth did not specificaly say van Gogh should start with V. In the majority of searches I found, van is now capitalized such as at Vincent van Gogh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and it is certainly never connected to Gogh (like McDougal). That's why I asked for clarification. Beth did write it as "Van Gogh", but I don't believe van is normally capitalized with his name.

harveyc · 11-20-2009, 01:25 PM

Jerry Brown - politician overdue for retirement, once dated Linda Rondstat

sunfish · 11-20-2009, 01:29 PM

Bill Quinn

lorax · 11-20-2009, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harveyc

Please pay attention, Patty!

Beth did not say van Gogh should start with V. The van is lower case and she made the case for examples such as Joe da Silva starting with "S", that's why I asked her to clarify her take on van Gogh.

Actually, Harvey, Patty's got it right. van Gogh starts with a V.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lorax

The locative articles in Scots, Irish, and Dutch names are generally capitalized and count as the beginning of the name, especially when they have been absorbed into it (like Vanderbilt for example, which can also be written as Van Der Biilt).

Patty in Wisc · 11-20-2009, 01:44 PM

Beth said:
"The locative articles in Scots, Irish, and Dutch names are generally capitalized and count as the beginning of the name, especially when they have been absorbed into it (like Vanderbilt for example, which can also be written as Van Der Biilt). Irish names using Mc (Mic) always carry a capital letter after the locative, as in McDougal, where Scots ones are variant - eg Macdonald and MacDonald are both acceptable, although the former is more common in use today. In Hebrew and Arabic names, the article may or may not be capitalized but counts as the beginning of the surname in any case - hence Osama Bin Laden would pick up from a B, and not an L."
Harvey, in Van Gogh both are caps caps. in a name like de la Paris, should begin w/ a P.
Bin Laden should start w/ a B.
Lorax, we need you again!

Patty in Wisc · 11-20-2009, 01:45 PM

Thank you Beth

Patty in Wisc · 11-20-2009, 02:33 PM

"Judge Judy" was followed with a J name. Judge Judy has a last name -- I think it's Schineler (?) & it shoulda been followed with S. Judge is NOT her first name & Judy is not her last name.

harveyc · 11-20-2009, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patty in Wisc

Beth said:
"The locative articles in Scots, Irish, and Dutch names are generally capitalized and count as the beginning of the name, especially when they have been absorbed into it (like Vanderbilt for example, which can also be written as Van Der Biilt). Irish names using Mc (Mic) always carry a capital letter after the locative, as in McDougal, where Scots ones are variant - eg Macdonald and MacDonald are both acceptable, although the former is more common in use today. In Hebrew and Arabic names, the article may or may not be capitalized but counts as the beginning of the surname in any case - hence Osama Bin Laden would pick up from a B, and not an L."
Harvey, in Van Gogh both are caps caps. in a name like de la Paris, should begin w/ a P.
Bin Laden should start w/ a B.
Lorax, we need you again!

Patty, read the Wikipedia link. van Gogh is not capitalized. Most of the other sources I found also did not capitalize van. Beth did not capitalize it in her last reply either, so I don't understand why some locative portions of names are considered part of the last name (even when not capitalized) and others are not.

This isn't fun any more. I quit. This is supposed to be a game, not some blasted war. Giving commands to other people does not belong here.

bencelest · 11-20-2009, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patty in Wisc

"Judge Judy" was followed with a J name. Judge Judy has a last name -- I think it's Schineler (?) & it shoulda been followed with S. Judge is NOT her first name & Judy is not her last name.

Judith Sheindlin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
udith (Judge Judy) Sheindlin Biography (1942

lorax · 11-20-2009, 04:27 PM

Cripes, I never meant this to become a war! I was just trying to explain something which is intrinsically clear to me, but which you asked about....

Selena Quintanilla-Pérez - Mexican Singer, famous for popularizing the Tejano style of music.

And to answer the question that I'm sure is coming, this name is picked up from the Q.

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