asacomm

I am not so familiar with the registration of pawpaw varieties in the US.
Does anybody tell me the namesof the varieties that are registered in US?
Or the address of the sidtes that publicized the names of them.

Thanking for your cooperation.

Darkman

Are you asking which ones are protected with plant patents?

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Richard

There's a commercial grower/breeder in Virginia that has done a great job of cataloging native varieties and cultivars. Perhaps you'll locate it before I get my boxes out of storage and locate the papers.

Also in the northwest, there is the vendor "One Green World" who has been testing and selling cultivars for those climates for two decades.

The commercial fruit tree distributors that service Southern California largely gave up on them because our humidity levels are too low.

For the humid south, there is information from both Fairchild Gardens in FL and the USDA Tropical Research Station in Puerto Rico.

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asacomm

Yes, indeed. I just want to know a list of pawpaws which are legally protected with plant patents.
And in case you cannot tell about the list, could you tell me where I can contact to know about this?

raygrogan

Lots of pawpaw info from KSU: Kentucky State University Land Grant Program: Pawpaw Information Website (somewhere they should have a list of the varieties they are testing in their regional variety trial.) They have a list of nurseries that sell pp - the best that I know of is

Forrest Keeling Nursery
88 Forrest Keeling Lane
P.O. Box 135
Elsberry, MO 63343
(800)356-2401
info@fknursery.com
RPM Trees from Forrest Keeling Nursery

They carry: Allegheny, Potomac, Rappahannock, Shenandoah, Susquehanna, Wabash, Mango, NC-1, PA-Golden, Prolific, Sunflower

Of those I know well and like very much the Potomac, Shenandoah, Susquehanna, and NC-1.

barnetmill

This question is about another facet of paw paws. A friend in Pensacola has what she says is a pawpaw and it apparently has sent out runners. Says later on this year I can have the runners. Do paw paws send out runners? For Darkman she is at 16 th snf brainerd st. Drive by by and you will see a corner house surrounded by a diverse forest of all sorts of trees. I have invited her to the oct. gathering. She said she will try to come.

PS she has avocado seedlings and claims they are Has. She will give me those to if I want them.

Jose263

Carl - Jerry Dedon (pawpaw Jerry) has many trees growing wild along the river bank in his area -he says pawpaws will produce suckers from their root systems often a good distance from the mother tree. These not as good as seedlings grown from seeds from fruit dropping on the ground. I'm having about 80% success with the seeds i received from Jerry - now have 20 out of 24 seeds sprouted and at various heights - it takes forever...planted in May.
I will move them to pots this winter.

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raygrogan

Yes on the suckers. (Almost too much - kind of a pain - I haven't tested but have been told that you can kill them with glyphosate as long as you only do it early in the year, like May, when all the sap is going out.) As to your question of using suckers to make a new tree. My neighbor did that, just fine. The suckers do not have great root systems, so I think he cut part of the leaves off, too. Do it (and all pawpaw transplanting) while the tree is active, not dormant like most trees.

barnetmill

It may be like what I was told to do for Chickasaw plum runners. Leave in the ground and carefully cut the connection of the emerging plant from parental root and allow the sucker to develop its own root system. Anyway the sprouts are there and if I pot them and take good care of them they should be useful. These are some distance from the parent tree.

Jose263

Hi Ray - I'm not very experienced with growing pawpaws - I have 2 in the ground 2nd year and they have put on 6-8 inches this year- a friend gave me other seedlings about 2-3 feet high in pots - I was going to wait for dormancy to put in ground this winter - are you sure they should be transplanted while active? Not doubting you ...but pawpaws are scarce...

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raygrogan

KYSU Pawpaw Planting Guide

The godfathers of pawpaws say, "Pawpaws are ordinarily quite difficult to transplant. They have fleshy, brittle roots with very few fine hairs. Experimentation has shown that, to be successful, transplantation should be done in the spring at the time that new growth commences, or soon after. (This is basically the same as for magnolia.) If many roots are lost, it may be desirable to prune the top to bring it into balance with the remaining roots."

Your potted ones should be fine if you wait until the leaves have grown a quarter inch of so. I've never had any trouble in the summer - just did about 5 in the last week or so. Flawless, even tho bare rooted (and one of them lost a tap root). Most did not even wilt, and some had growth showing like 2 days later.

sunfish

I think they need to forget 'Veinte Cohol' in Georgia and replant with Paw Paw

Darkman

Hey guys,

Sorry I've been sick for a few days and have missed this discussion. Most all the questions have been answered I think but maybe the original one.

I know all of Peterson varieties are protected and Kentucky (KSU) has some that are. Other that that I'm not sure but there are probably a few.

As Sunfish listed Peterson Pawpaws | About Us
RayGrogan 2009 Pawpaw Cultivar List and Fruit Photographs
And me Licensed Propagators of KSU Trademarked Pawpaw Cultivars

Jerry Dedon who was mentioned earlier and got his starts from a defunct LSU Pawpaw program has said that the difference may not be a great as the color glossy photographs and fine prose in the catalogs when it comes to patented and selected seedlings. My five trees are selected seedlings (from his selected seedlings that he has grown and eaten). If the flavor isn't the best I will simply graft on other selected seedlings that Jerry has growing and we know taste great.

As TJ said they will send up runners. In their native habitat they form a grove with many trees. Some from dropped seeds but many from root sprouts. I do not have the knowledge to say if a root sucker will grow a tap root or not while or after being removed from the mother tree.

Carl I will look her and the tree up. If it has had fruit that would be a big boost to my psyche since I view my five as an experimental planting. Thanks for inviting her and please feel free to invite any others in the area that have similar hobbies such as ours. I will probably put it out on our local radio plant show starting the last week in September. I heard from Coast Crab and he is going to try and make it too.

Ray thanks for that transplanting info.

TJ you saw mine. I transplanted all of them from pots and they are looking good.

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Darkman

2017 Update

Finally I ate my first PawPaw grown on my tree. It was not without help that I achieved this milestone. Earlier this year Jose263 brought pollen sourced from a friend in Louisiana and using a small artist paintbrush attempted pollinating around eight open and seemingly receptive blooms. That resulted in a single fruit that we ate Saturday. It was a white or light fleshed variety having a mild very pleasant aroma and taste. The yellow fleshed ones are stronly flavored and scream tropical. This one was delicate and very pleasant. TJ declared it was the best he's eaten so far. Accordingly if it repeats this flavor profile it will be named TJ's Favorite!

So how long to fruit from a one year old seedling? Five years! But only with help.

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Jose263

Thanks Charles (aka Darkman)
This year I met my 1st pawpaw fruit in person and now have sampled several pawpaws. The ones with orangey/canteloupe colored flesh seem to have more tropical/bolder flavors vs the light fleshed ones which have proved to be milder and taste better to me.
This has been a banner year - I tried fruit from hand pollinated trees in my yard in Biloxi (one Dedon seedling and a Shenandoah graft), a very tasty paw paw grown in Oceans Springs, MS, seedling fruit at the NNGA/NAFEX conference in Tifton, GA, more fruit from Richard Harrison's pawpaw patch in NW Florida and finally the most excellent, so far, pawpaw from Charles's patch (a Jerry Dedon select seedling) All were different. The darker flesh more tropical. the lighter flesh milder and more to my tasting preference Shenandoah ranks 3rd behind the Ocean Springs (2nd) and TJs Favorite (1st). I have seeds from these and will plant them in January after stratification.
AND, as a bonus, I enjoyed a Mrs Holland, Pensacola grown, cold hardy avocado -

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