Help! Need ID on this plant

unonan · 12-17-2010, 03:31 PM

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I buy these every year but they never have any lable....they make it almost all winter here usally die back to the ground by march and start growing again....any help on what it is...thanks

Dean W. · 12-17-2010, 05:12 PM

Dracena...

soundofthemusic1 · 12-17-2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean W.

Dracena...

Thanks to Dean for the plant name.

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Originally Posted by unonan

I buy these every year but they never have any lable....they make it almost all winter here usally die back to the ground by march and start growing again....any help on what it is...thanks

It's great to know that Dracaena Marginata can survive outdoors in Zone 7. I have one that never does well indoors.

Unonan,

Do you plant Dracaena Marginata in the ground or leave them in the pot all winter in Zone 7? Will they come back in the spring if grown outdoors in a pot is what I'd like to know?

Thanks!

unonan · 12-17-2010, 10:44 PM

i guess theres a corm to them....when i plant them in the ground they usally grow back but never as big as they were they seem to take forever to get any size

oh yea someone else said it could be "Cordyline australis" i looked at pics of it and read up on it seems like what i have....chk it out cordyline australis hardiness - Tropicalesque Garden Forum - GardenWeb

Darkman · 12-18-2010, 11:19 AM

Even in my zone 8b planted in ground they die but regrow in late Spring early Summer for me.

soundofthemusic1 · 12-20-2010, 11:39 PM

Unonan,

Thank you for your reply about Cordyline Australis.

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Originally Posted by Darkman

Even in my zone 8b planted in ground they die but regrow in late Spring early Summer for me.

Darkman,

I believe you also have Cordyline Australis, and not Dracaena Marginata. Am I correct? If so, has anyone on this web site tried growing Dracaena Marginata in zone 7B and it did come back the following year?

Thank you!

Darkman · 12-21-2010, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by soundofthemusic1

Unonan,

Thank you for your reply about Cordyline Australis.

Darkman,

I believe you also have Cordyline Australis, and not Dracaena Marginata. Am I correct? If so, has anyone on this web site tried growing Dracaena Marginata in zone 7B and it did come back the following year?

Thank you!

I'm not sure. I treat them as annuals and purchase them as "Interior Foilage" plants from the inside of the orange box store. Somewhere I had got the idea they were D. Marginata. I plant them outside and sometimes they live and sometimes they die back. They pretty much always return in the spring if they die back.

What is the tells for each one. Here is a picture of mine. Apologies for the large size but it is needed to see the detail.

palmtree · 12-21-2010, 07:46 PM

IT definitely is a Cordyline australis not a dracaena, although how cool would it be if a Dracaena could survive the winter in a zone 7! But Cordyline australis are beautiful plants and can grow into beautiful trees with age. If you protect them they should have no problem surviving winters. I remember seeing someone around my area plant 3 or 4 Cordyline australis along their driveway and they survived one or 2 winters and actually got pretty big! If they protected them with xmas lights, a frost cloth, and a plastic garbage bin, then they would probably be small trees right now!! Cordyline australis are cold hardy to about 10F but slightly less in a pot and they dont seem to like too much winter moisture, especially all the freezing and thawing.

unonan · 12-21-2010, 08:06 PM

you think they would make it in an unheated detach garage?....it hass no insulation it gets damn cold in there but they would be out of the elements

Darkman · 12-21-2010, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by palmtree

IT definitely is a Cordyline australis not a dracaena

OK I believe you but how do you know? What are the differences?

I just did a Yahoo image search and it looked like the Dracena me.

palmtree · 12-21-2010, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkman

OK I believe you but how do you know? What are the differences?

I just did a Yahoo image search and it looked like the Dracena me.

Other than cold tolerance, there are a few differences. Dracaenas have shorter leaves at that age and slightly darker leaves as well. Also the stem is thinner at that age. The Dracaena you are thinking of is probably Dracaena marginata and they are kind of grasslike when they are at that size whereas a Cordyline australis isnt. Im not sure what kind of sunlight you have your plant in, but Cordyline australis is more sun tolerant than Dracaena Marginata (but Marginata can handle a pretty good amount of sun if it has time to adjust).
Everybody plants Cordyline australis in the center of there annual pots, but I have not seen Dracaenas used as centers for planters.

Good luck!

palmtree · 12-21-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by unonan

you think they would make it in an unheated detach garage?....it hass no insulation it gets damn cold in there but they would be out of the elements

As long as temperatures stay above 20F, it should have no problems at all. Good luck!

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