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Old 09-18-2011, 02:51 PM   #441 (permalink)
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I am the proud new owner of two dragon fruit plants (Thanks Janan) and I have run into some questions. As I have never had these before.

I got Guyute, and American beauty. Both are cuttings and should start shooting out roots soon (Hopefully).

I live in a small mobile home (trailer) though, and these plants will be indoors year round. So I am rather limited on space and so I need to figure out how much room these plants would need to I can get everything ready for them. I know it will be a while until they get bigger but I like to have everything planned out

So Google hasn't been much help yet. So I figured I would come here

About how big would these two plants need to get before they would flower and hopefully fruit?

And then about how big of a pot would each plant need to be that big.

Nice pictures everyone These look like cool plants

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Harvey can answer this better then me.The plant will fruit at 5' ,you can keep it pruned .10gal. pot is plenty big

You will need to bring it outside in spring for it to get fruit.
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Ok, thanks

So about 5' and it needs to be in a 10 gallon pot.

I will need to wrap it around something to keep it shorter. Maybe a round basket shape or something? Then I could make the plant form a circle kind of and if wouldn't get too tall.

The ten gallon pot might be a problem.... That's a little huge for a houseplant on a shelf I will have to see what pots I can find

Would I be able to have both plants in a 10 gallon pot?

Would it even flower indoors? I was planning on hand pollinating them at night when they flowered.

Sorry for so many question, I wasn't expecting to ever have one because of how big they are. So I never did any research for them. They are pretty cool plants though
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Ok, thanks

So about 5' and it needs to be in a 10 gallon pot.

I will need to wrap it around something to keep it shorter. Maybe a round basket shape or something? Then I could make the plant form a circle kind of and if wouldn't get too tall.

The ten gallon pot might be a problem.... That's a little huge for a houseplant on a shelf I will have to see what pots I can find

Would I be able to have both plants in a 10 gallon pot?

Would it even flower indoors? I was planning on hand pollinating them at night when they flowered.

Sorry for so many question, I wasn't expecting to ever have one because of how big they are. So I never did any research for them. They are pretty cool plants though
If you can't use a 10 gal. use a 5 gal. They need very little soil.Your better off with a heavy stake as a support,4x4,2x4,steel pipe .Let it grow up rather than down.
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Jordan, the pitaya won't get large enough if you are trying to grow them on a shelf unless you allow them to climb up walls, etc. They also might not get enough light as an indoor plant to fruit. While they can grow with very little light, they usually don't fruit. In natural conditions they will sometimes climb up tall trees but fruit will usually only be present where growth reaches the outside of the tree's canopy. I've seen H. guatemalanisis plants grown under 15% shade cloth which produced much fewer fruit than neighboring portions of plants receiving full sun (even though those had sunburn). American Beauty is a H. guatemalanesis (or maybe a hybrid). Guyute isn't one I'm familiar with.

In general, a pitaya needs to have about 12 or so pounds of plant mass before it will fruit (though I have an 8-S much smaller than that with a fruit). 8-S produces small fruits but in large quantities and over a longer season than most other varieties so it might be a good option for extreme zone pushers.

Good luck!

Another option might be to grow it as a staked plant indoors during cold weather and move it ourdoors once the risk of frost has passed.
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Someone likes Fragon Fruit

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Ouch. You have tree rats? Glad they aren't a problem here.
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Ouch. You have tree rats? Glad they aren't a problem here.
There are rats around,but I'm thinking Raven.

Harvey have you learned of an easy way to process the DF seed ?
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The only processing I've done of dragon fruit is eat them! But I saw Edgar or someone who cut think slices of dragon fruit flesh and laid the slices on something like wax paper so that they would dry out and the seeds were then easily separated.
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The only processing I've done of dragon fruit is eat them! But I saw Edgar or someone who cut think slices of dragon fruit flesh and laid the slices on something like wax paper so that they would dry out and the seeds were then easily separated.
Thanks.That will work.Guess I better start to harvest my fruit before it all gets eaten
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Thats bad, nice fruit is wasted
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That's alright I have more. 1lb.12oz.

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That must be from a large older plant. We have somewhat of a wait since our plants are just about 1/2" tall. Very pretty fruit.
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That must be from a large older plant. We have somewhat of a wait since our plants are just about 1/2" tall. Very pretty fruit.
3 year old plant.You can tell I have better DF weather than Pineapple weather
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Jordan, the pitaya won't get large enough if you are trying to grow them on a shelf unless you allow them to climb up walls, etc. They also might not get enough light as an indoor plant to fruit. While they can grow with very little light, they usually don't fruit. In natural conditions they will sometimes climb up tall trees but fruit will usually only be present where growth reaches the outside of the tree's canopy. I've seen H. guatemalanisis plants grown under 15% shade cloth which produced much fewer fruit than neighboring portions of plants receiving full sun (even though those had sunburn). American Beauty is a H. guatemalanesis (or maybe a hybrid). Guyute isn't one I'm familiar with.

In general, a pitaya needs to have about 12 or so pounds of plant mass before it will fruit (though I have an 8-S much smaller than that with a fruit). 8-S produces small fruits but in large quantities and over a longer season than most other varieties so it might be a good option for extreme zone pushers.

Good luck!

Another option might be to grow it as a staked plant indoors during cold weather and move it ourdoors once the risk of frost has passed.
I was going to have a lamp by it and the window by it. It would be the same strength lamp I use with my cacti and all my other plants. As long as I have the plug in

After I would find one and measure everything, I was going to (hopefully) have it in a five gallon pot apiece. And then have a PVC pipe or something big enough for them to climb on.

My ceiling only would go to about 3'-4' not including the pot's height. So I would need something that would spiral a bit. Maybe like a safer tomato cage? Then the dragon fruit would spiral around it instead of going straight up like normal. So then it could really get bigger then the three feet, without getting too tall.

If this doesn't sound like it would work then I might just have to keep them smaller. My mom doesn't want me having anymore bigger plants outside as our yard is tiny.

And I don't think climbing up my walls is a option either It would be cool though....

Nice plants and fruit everyone Sunfish, that one is huge
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Enjoy your project and when you get the results you will know what will work for you. I do a lot of things that may or may not work but it is the enjoyment of doing them that make any sense out of it. If you don't try, you will never know. Good luck
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I was going to have a lamp by it and the window by it. It would be the same strength lamp I use with my cacti and all my other plants. As long as I have the plug in

After I would find one and measure everything, I was going to (hopefully) have it in a five gallon pot apiece. And then have a PVC pipe or something big enough for them to climb on.

My ceiling only would go to about 3'-4' not including the pot's height. So I would need something that would spiral a bit. Maybe like a safer tomato cage? Then the dragon fruit would spiral around it instead of going straight up like normal. So then it could really get bigger then the three feet, without getting too tall.

If this doesn't sound like it would work then I might just have to keep them smaller. My mom doesn't want me having anymore bigger plants outside as our yard is tiny.

And I don't think climbing up my walls is a option either It would be cool though....

Nice plants and fruit everyone Sunfish, that one is huge
Small Pineapple.

If you can let it climb 3' and then hang down 3' that may work

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Hi,
Ahh, ok. So my plan may yet work

I guess if it doesn't work I have some new info And a large cactus.

I will have to see what I can find. Only the one has roots right now so I have a bit of time to piece this together. See what ideas come, and what designs can be made out of PVC pipe...

"Small pineapple" That made me laugh Still a big fruit though
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That's a shame, just when they get ripe. I had a similar problem with a large garden. Can the fruit be taken off the plant just before ripe and ripen on a shelf?
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That's a shame, just when they get ripe. I had a similar problem with a large garden. Can the fruit be taken off the plant just before ripe and ripen on a shelf?
I am not sure if it will ripen off the plant but I have no choice.I'll set a couple rat traps tonight see what happens.I've seen some roof rats around ,their huge not sure if a trap will kill them.
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