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Jananas Bananas · 08-11-2011, 02:58 PM

If they are mulched well you can leave them outside, just bring the potted ones inside in the garage or wherever you would store your bananas. If you don't want to take any chances, just pull up the corms (or dig up) and cut off the leaves and store your corms wrapped loosely in some newspaper and placed in a cardboard box. (I would not use plastic or store in a plastic box) Everyone has their own ways though so we'll see if any one else has suggestions.

There are tons of links on the internet too:

How to Dig and Store Canna Roots: Canna Rhizomes or Roots Can be Dug in Fall and Saved through the Winter for Replanting Next Spring Flower Gardeners Learn How to Keep Canna Flowers from Year to Year | Suite101.com

How to Store Canna Bulbs | eHow.com

~JaNan

sashaeffer · 08-11-2011, 03:31 PM

Is it ok though to just leave them in the pots they are in and just bring them inside the house and hold back on water? or is that pretty useless?

Jananas Bananas · 08-11-2011, 03:52 PM

I have potted canna as house plants. They are watered about once a week.

I have never had them bloom inside, but I enjoy many of my leaves as much or more as the flowers. If you just want to store them to keep them alive, I would water minimally.

~J

Olafhenny · 08-11-2011, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sashaeffer

I'm new to Canna's. Have two outside in pots, and one in the ground.

Can Canna's be overwintered in the ground in my zone 6ish? And as far as the ones in the pots, are they like Banana's where I can bring them in, and give them minimal water over the winter?

Scott/Omaha

Hi Scott,
I live also in a Zone 6 and have a little experiment going.

I first planted one of my Cleopatras 6 inches deeper than the level of the starter pot, taking a page from
planting bananas in frost zones 1 foot deep. That part went well and this Canna is thriving.

For description of the planting procedure see here:

Canna Lovers Unite!
Just scroll down, until you see my avatar the second time

In fall I intend to cover the spot with about 1 foot of leaf mulch. Depending on how may rhizomes I get,
I may even try out one, which was not deep planted.

I will post here the outcome here next spring.

Best,
Olaf

Jananas Bananas · 08-18-2011, 05:58 PM

The second bloom stalk on the Intrigue and the first bloom stalk is making seeds!

~JaNan

Olafhenny · 09-03-2011, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olafhenny

Hi Scott,
I live also in a Zone 6 and have a little experiment going.

I first planted one of my Cleopatras 6 inches deeper than the level of the starter pot, taking a page from
planting bananas in frost zones 1 foot deep. That part went well and this Canna is thriving.

Update to this post: The Cleopatra, which I planted deeper, was, of course, initially above ground
shorter than its neighbor, but it has now surpassed that one by quite a bit in height.

Now, as fall approaches and I have this Canna Wyoming/Basjoo combination in a pot, I am considering to bury
the whole assembly about one foot below surface, providing I can dig that deep because I may have a problem
with boulders. I could not go that deep with the Cleopatra, because it was not tall enough in spring.

As you can see in this picture the Canna is now plenty big enough to go 1' deep (The ruler is 1m long) I'll just
drop it up to 1' deep, mulch it well and see, if the Canna will pop up in the spring. I am not all that worried about
the Basjoo.

sashaeffer · 09-04-2011, 07:51 AM

Great advice for the one I have in the ground. I also have two that are in pots and they are pretty big. What is the best way to over winter them? Leave them in pots and bring inside and don't water much like a banana? or cut them down to the top of the pot and let them overwinter in garage in the dirt?

Scott

Olafhenny · 09-04-2011, 02:56 PM

Hi Rob:
I have here My Banana Experience (or lack of it) described in detail what I did last winter with my banana. I will
build on that this winter.

The leave filled fence around the base was probably quite effective, but the attempt to protect as much of the stem
as possible by encasing it in a tomato cage failed.

I will therefore do the following modifications:
- I will make the fence around the base 2 feet high instead of 1 and fill it up with leaves, give the fence a diameter
of 5' and add more moisture protection.
- I will probably cut the PS back to leaf level.

There have been elsewhere suggestions, that moisture may be more of a culprit in destroying the PS than frost.

For more on the same subject, please see: basjoo size for leaving outside?

Best,
Olaf

sandy0225 · 09-04-2011, 08:33 PM

my canna I planted a foot deeper didn't come back last year, but I'm going to try again. Honestly, I kind of forgot about it, but I know the general area where I planted it last year, and there's no canna there this year at all. I think I'll put out another one now in a different place just so I have another experiment going! I do have 4 pink china colocasias planted a foot deep in four locations in our year, an ensete glaucum and a bordelon and a thai black banana planted that way also to try out.

oakshadows · 09-05-2011, 12:49 PM

Are cannas self pollinating? We have several and just yesterday came across a bengal stripe that really caught our eye. Is it hard to propagate canna from seed? We have started many plants and have some sucess but nothing to brag about. Patience isn't one of my virtues.

Jananas Bananas · 09-09-2011, 08:59 AM

Some canna hybrids are sterile and you can't grow them from seed, but if you get seeds they are easier to grow if you scratch the seed coat.

~JaNan

palmtree · 09-09-2011, 02:48 PM

My tallest canna is now 10 feet tall. That ties the size of my tallest cannas ever, but it still has some more growing to do so it might get to 11 or 12 feet tall before it is finished growing for the year. Im going to post pics tomorrow when it will probably be in full bloom.

Jananas Bananas · 09-12-2011, 11:30 AM

Olaf, I think that is Tropicanna or Durban in your pot with your Basjoo. Wyoming isn't variegated, it is a bronze purple leaf.

Wyoming canna - Google Search

Durban canna - Google Search

~JaNan

Olafhenny · 09-12-2011, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jananas Bananas

Olaf, I think that is Tropicanna or Durban in your pot with your Basjoo. Wyoming isn't variegated, it is a bronze purple leaf.

Thanks, JaNan,

I got it from a commercially packaged rhizome, which was labelled 'Wyoming', a couple of years ago and, while the
offsprings vary in colour and markings most of them resemble 'in real life' this one here: Google Images
on page 3 of the URL you supplied.

Frankly I think that there are so many different cultivars of Cannas, that they kind of blend in and overlap, resulting in
doubtful labeling.

Best,
Olaf

Jananas Bananas · 09-12-2011, 01:12 PM

Hi Olaf! Yes that picture is labeled Wyoming, but it isn't either. That is a page of somebody's (Amy) personal pictures. There are numerous hybrids which is fantastic, I think.

Here is a great link that I use often - they have wonderful pictures and descriptions and are hybridizers themselves.

Karchesky and Harris Canna Collection

~JaNan

SoBe Musa · 09-17-2011, 03:04 PM

I'm new with Cannas..for about two years i been trying..i don't know why is so hard for me to grow a healthy plant.. neither from rhizome nor from a grow plant..fungus and pest always do the number.Here are two..so far so good. applying fungicide constantly.Any advise.?
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oakshadows · 09-17-2011, 03:14 PM

Two of our cannas, don't enen know their name, are sporting seed pods. Now what do I do. Let them drop off, pick them and dry them, ??? My life with seeds hasn't been the greatest but here lately I'm having a little more success. Maybe I can do the canna seed thing an raise my average.

oakshadows · 09-17-2011, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palmtree

My tallest canna is now 10 feet tall. That ties the size of my tallest cannas ever, but it still has some more growing to do so it might get to 11 or 12 feet tall before it is finished growing for the year. Im going to post pics tomorrow when it will probably be in full bloom.

Alex, What is the name of this biggy? It might be of interest to us and do you know where to acquire one or a rhizome? Thanks

Jananas Bananas · 09-18-2011, 12:13 PM

Noah, I'm not Alex, but maybe I can help. I would guess a Canna Musifolia - also known as the banana canna. They get 12 to 15 feet in size in good soil. If you google that you can see the size in some pictures. If potted or in so so soil they won't max out like that.

Banana Canna (Canna ) - Hardy Tropicals Hardy Plantabase

I think there are some pictures about mid way in this thread of one I gave to Cheryl blooming for her. I have some shots of mine here also but I don't know if I labeled them. They remind me a lot when young of Ensetes because of the red edge to the leaf and the red stalk.

Mine have not multiplied because of our conditions this year, or I would send you one of mine.

Emily, those look perfect to me. Once established, I do very little to mine unless it is to give them a drink or maybe some manure (which is once a year in the Spring). They go through drought, leaf rollers, grasshoppers all sorts of stuff without any special treatment. If yours are two years old I would say they should be established and you won't have to baby them any.

~JaNan

oakshadows · 09-18-2011, 01:00 PM

Thanks JaNan, we are cleaning up and clearing this property and are adding plants as we go. Most of our time and effort goes into getting the pasture areas in shape. Not as bad as you here but the rains aren't as frequent as usual and it isn't helping the grasses and seed to grow. Beats flooding though. Thanks for the info and we will start our search for a plant or two. Coins a bit tight but seems we can always find some for the new plants. There are a lot of subdivisions around here and I will put it on my list of what to look for. Have a nice day.

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sashaeffer sashaeffer's Photo Gallery Location: Omaha, NE Find me on the map! Zone: 5-6 Name: Scott Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 154 BananaBucks : 26,936 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 103 Times Was Thanked 98 Times in 50 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 6 Times	Re: Canna Lovers Unite! Great advice for the one I have in the ground. I also have two that are in pots and they are pretty big. What is the best way to over winter them? Leave them in pots and bring inside and don't water much like a banana? or cut them down to the top of the pot and let them overwinter in garage in the dirt? Scott

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sandy0225 Northern Tropics sandy0225's Photo Gallery Location: Muncie, Indiana zone 5 Find me on the map! Zone: zone 5 Name: Sandy Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,718 BananaBucks : 385,481 Feedback: 31 / 97% Said "Thanks" 38 Times Was Thanked 1,801 Times in 682 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 9 Times	Re: Canna Lovers Unite! my canna I planted a foot deeper didn't come back last year, but I'm going to try again. Honestly, I kind of forgot about it, but I know the general area where I planted it last year, and there's no canna there this year at all. I think I'll put out another one now in a different place just so I have another experiment going! I do have 4 pink china colocasias planted a foot deep in four locations in our year, an ensete glaucum and a bordelon and a thai black banana planted that way also to try out. __________________ Sandy Burrell Northern Tropics Greenhouse 1501 East Fuson Road Muncie, IN 47302 www.northerntropics.com specializing in bananas, heirloom tomatoes and water gardening plants~ check out our new online store at our website!

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Jananas Bananas Jananas Bananas's Photo Gallery Location: Austin, Texas Find me on the map! Zone: 8b/9a Name: JaNan Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,438 BananaBucks : 406,721 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,341 Times Was Thanked 7,059 Times in 2,683 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 133 Times	Re: Canna Lovers Unite! Noah, I'm not Alex, but maybe I can help. I would guess a Canna Musifolia - also known as the banana canna. They get 12 to 15 feet in size in good soil. If you google that you can see the size in some pictures. If potted or in so so soil they won't max out like that. Banana Canna (Canna ) - Hardy Tropicals Hardy Plantabase I think there are some pictures about mid way in this thread of one I gave to Cheryl blooming for her. I have some shots of mine here also but I don't know if I labeled them. They remind me a lot when young of Ensetes because of the red edge to the leaf and the red stalk. Mine have not multiplied because of our conditions this year, or I would send you one of mine. Emily, those look perfect to me. Once established, I do very little to mine unless it is to give them a drink or maybe some manure (which is once a year in the Spring). They go through drought, leaf rollers, grasshoppers all sorts of stuff without any special treatment. If yours are two years old I would say they should be established and you won't have to baby them any. ~JaNan __________________ Jananas Bananas

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oakshadows oakshadows's Photo Gallery Location: Dunnellon, Florida Find me on the map! Zone: 9b Name: Noah Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,064 BananaBucks : 40,192 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 2,207 Times Was Thanked 847 Times in 514 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 437 Times	Re: Canna Lovers Unite! Thanks JaNan, we are cleaning up and clearing this property and are adding plants as we go. Most of our time and effort goes into getting the pasture areas in shape. Not as bad as you here but the rains aren't as frequent as usual and it isn't helping the grasses and seed to grow. Beats flooding though. Thanks for the info and we will start our search for a plant or two. Coins a bit tight but seems we can always find some for the new plants. There are a lot of subdivisions around here and I will put it on my list of what to look for. Have a nice day. __________________ "What this country needs is dirtier fingernails and cleaner minds."

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