![]() |
Welcome to the Bananas.org forums. You're currently viewing our message boards as a guest which gives you limited access to participate in discussions and access our other features such as our wiki and photo gallery. By joining our community, you'll have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast and simple, so please join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. |
|
Register | Photo Gallery | Classifieds | Wiki | Chat | Map | Today's Posts | Search |
Hydroponics Got soil? No? Well you came to the right place. This forum is for discussions of all hydroponics related discussions. Discuss techniques, media, equipment, lighting, and all other on-topic discussions of hydroponics. |
![]() |
|
![]() |
The most chatters online in one day was 17, 09-06-2009. No one is currently using the chat. |
![]() ![]() |
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools |
![]() |
#1 (permalink) |
Name: Chris
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 175
BananaBucks
: 76,563
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 57 Times
Was
Thanked 104 Times in 38 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times
|
![]() I am sorry I don't have pics of bananas with deficiencies, but I think a tomato plant will be descriptive enough.
[IMG] Magnesium. The Mg-deficient leaves show advanced interveinal chlorosis, with necrosis developing in the highly chlorotic tissue. In its advanced form, magnesium deficiency may superficially resemble potassium deficiency. In the case of magnesium deficiency the symptoms generally start with mottled chlorotic areas developing in the interveinal tissue. The interveinal laminae tissue tends to expand proportionately more than the other leaf tissues, producing a raised puckered surface, with the top of the puckers progressively going from chlorotic to necrotic tissue. In some plants such as the Brassica (The mustard family, which includes vegetables such as broccoli, brussel sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower, collards, kale, kohlrabi, mustard, rape, rutabaga and turnip.), tints of orange, yellow, and purple may also develop. [IMG] Manganese. These leaves show a light interveinal chlorosis developed under a limited supply of Mn. The early stages of the chlorosis induced by manganese deficiency are somewhat similar to iron deficiency. They begin with a light chlorosis of the young leaves and netted veins of the mature leaves especially when they are viewed through transmitted light. As the stress increases, the leaves take on a gray metallic sheen and develop dark freckled and necrotic areas along the veins. A purplish luster may also develop on the upper surface of the leaves. Grains such as oats, wheat, and barley are extremely susceptible to manganese deficiency. They develop a light chlorosis along with gray specks which elongate and coalesce, and eventually the entire leaf withers and dies. [IMG] Molybdenum. These leaves show some mottled spotting along with some interveinal chlorosis. An early symptom for molybdenum deficiency is a general overall chlorosis, similar to the symptom for nitrogen deficiency but generally without the reddish coloration on the undersides of the leaves. This results from the requirement for molybdenum in the reduction of nitrate, which needs to be reduced prior to its assimilation by the plant (see Textbook chapter 12). Thus, the initial symptoms of molybdenum deficiency are in fact those of nitrogen deficiency. However, molybdenum has other metabolic functions within the plant, and hence there are deficiency symptoms even when reduced nitrogen is available. In the case of cauliflower, the lamina of the new leaves fail to develop, resulting in a characteristic whiptail appearance. In many plants there is an upward cupping of the leaves and mottled spots developing into large interveinal chlorotic areas under severe deficiency. At high concentrations, molybdenum has a very distinctive toxicity symptom in that the leaves turn a very brilliant orange. [IMG] Nitrogen. The chlorotic symptoms shown by this leaf resulted from nitrogen deficiency. A light red cast can also be seen on the veins and petioles. Under nitrogen deficiency, the older mature leaves gradually change from their normal characteristic green appearance to a much paler green. As the deficiency progresses these older leaves become uniformly yellow (chlorotic). Leaves approach a yellowish white color under extreme deficiency. The young leaves at the top of the plant maintain a green but paler color and tend to become smaller in size. Branching is reduced in nitrogen deficient plants resulting in short, spindly plants. The yellowing in nitrogen deficiency is uniform over the entire leaf including the veins. However in some instances, an interveinal necrosis replaces the chlorosis commonly found in many plants. In some plants the underside of the leaves and/or the petioles and midribs develop traces of a reddish or purple color. In some plants this coloration can be quite bright. As the deficiency progresses, the older leaves also show more of a tendency to wilt under mild water stress and become senescent much earlier than usual. Recovery of deficient plants to applied nitrogen is immediate (days) and spectacular. [IMG] Phosphorus. These phosphorus-deficient leaves show some necrotic spots. As a rule, phosphorus deficiency symptoms are not very distinct and thus difficult to identify. A major visual symptom is that the plants are dwarfed or stunted. Phosphorus deficient plants develop very slowly in relation to other plants growing under similar environmental conditions but without phosphorus deficiency. Phosphorus deficient plants are often mistaken for unstressed but much younger plants. Some species such as tomato, lettuce, corn and the brassicas develop a distinct purpling of the stem, petiole and the under sides of the leaves. Under severe deficiency conditions there is also a tendency for leaves to develop a blue-gray luster. In older leaves under very severe deficiency conditions a brown netted veining of the leaves may develop. [IMG] Sulfur. This leaf shows a general overall chlorosis while still retaining some green color. The veins and petioles show a very distinct reddish color. The visual symptoms of sulfur deficiency are very similar to the chlorosis found in nitrogen deficiency. However, in sulfur deficiency the yellowing is much more uniform over the entire plant including young leaves. The reddish color often found on the underside of the leaves and the petioles has a more pinkish tone and is much less vivid than that found in nitrogen deficiency. With advanced sulfur deficiency brown lesions and/or necrotic spots often develop along the petiole, and the leaves tend to become more erect and often twisted and brittle. [IMG] Zinc. This leaf shows an advanced case of interveinal necrosis. In the early stages of zinc deficiency the younger leaves become yellow and pitting develops in the interveinal upper surfaces of the mature leaves. Guttation (see textbook Figure 4.5) is also prevalent. As the deficiency progress these symptoms develop into an intense interveinal necrosis but the main veins remain green, as in the symptoms of recovering iron deficiency. In many plants, especially trees, the leaves become very small and the internodes shorten, producing a rosette like appearance. [IMG] Boron. These boron-deficient leaves show a light general chlorosis. The tolerance of plants to boron varies greatly, to the extent that the boron concentrations necessary for the growth of plants having a high boron requirement may be toxic to plants sensitive to boron. Boron is poorly transported in the phloem of most plants, with the exception of those plants that utilize complex sugars, such as sorbitol, as transport metabolites. In a recent study, (see Brown et al., 1999) tobacco plants engineered to synthesize sorbitol were shown to have increased boron mobility, and to better tolerate boron deficiency in the soil. In plants with poor boron mobility, boron deficiency results in necrosis of meristematic tissues in the growing region, leading to loss of apical dominance and the development of a rosette condition. These deficiency symptoms are similar to those caused by calcium deficiency. In plants in which boron is readily transported in the phloem, the deficiency symptoms localize in the mature tissues, similar to those of nitrogen and potassium. Both the pith and the epidermis of stems may be affected, often resulting in hollow or roughened stems along with necrotic spots on the fruit. The leaf blades develop a pronounced crinkling and there is a darkening and crackling of the petioles often with exudation of syrupy material from the leaf blade. The leaves are unusually brittle and tend to break easily. Also, there is often a wilting of the younger leaves even under an adequate water supply, pointing to a disruption of water transport caused by boron deficiency. [IMG] Calcium. These calcium-deficient leaves show necrosis around the base of the leaves. The very low mobility of calcium is a major factor determining the expression of calcium deficiency symptoms in plants. Classic symptoms of calcium deficiency include blossom-end rot of tomato (burning of the end part of tomato fruits), tip burn of lettuce, blackheart of celery and death of the growing regions in many plants. All these symptoms show soft dead necrotic tissue at rapidly growing areas, which is generally related to poor translocation of calcium to the tissue rather than a low external supply of calcium. Very slow growing plants with a deficient supply of calcium may re-translocate sufficient calcium from older leaves to maintain growth with only a marginal chlorosis of the leaves. This ultimately results in the margins of the leaves growing more slowly than the rest of the leaf, causing the leaf to cup downward. This symptom often progresses to the point where the petioles develop but the leaves do not, leaving only a dark bit of necrotic tissue at the top of each petiole. Plants under chronic calcium deficiency have a much greater tendency to wilt than non-stressed plants. [IMG] Chloride. These leaves have abnormal shapes, with distinct interveinal chlorosis. Plants require relatively high chlorine concentration in their tissues. Chlorine is very abundant in soils, and reaches high concentrations in saline areas, but it can be deficient in highly leached inland areas. The most common symptoms of chlorine deficiency are chlorosis and wilting of the young leaves. The chlorosis occurs on smooth flat depressions in the interveinal area of the leaf blade. In more advanced cases there often appears a characteristic bronzing on the upper side of the mature leaves. Plants are generally tolerant of chloride, but some species such as avocados, stone fruits, and grapevines are sensitive to chlorine and can show toxicity even at low chloride concentrations in the soil. [IMG] Copper. These copper-deficient leaves are curled, and their petioles bend downward. Copper deficiency may be expressed as a light overall chlorosis along with the permanent loss of turgor in the young leaves. Recently matured leaves show netted, green veining with areas bleaching to a whitish gray. Some leaves develop sunken necrotic spots and have a tendency to bend downward. Trees under chronic copper deficiency develop a rosette form of growth. Leaves are small and chlorotic with spotty necrosis. [IMG] Iron. These iron-deficient leaves show strong chlorosis at the base of the leaves with some green netting. The most common symptom for iron deficiency starts out as an interveinal chlorosis of the youngest leaves, evolves into an overall chlorosis, and ends as a totally bleached leaf. The bleached areas often develop necrotic spots. Up until the time the leaves become almost completely white they will recover upon application of iron. In the recovery phase the veins are the first to recover as indicated by their bright green color. This distinct venial re-greening observed during iron recovery is probably the most recognizable symptom in all of classical plant nutrition. Because iron has a low mobility, iron deficiency symptoms appear first on the youngest leaves. Iron deficiency is strongly associated with calcareous soils and anaerobic conditions, and it is often induced by an excess of heavy metals. [IMG] Potassium. Some of these leaves show marginal necrosis (tip burn), others at a more advanced deficiency status show necrosis in the interveinal spaces between the main veins along with interveinal chlorosis. This group of symptoms is very characteristic of K deficiency symptoms. The onset of potassium deficiency is generally characterized by a marginal chlorosis progressing into a dry leathery tan scorch on recently matured leaves. This is followed by increasing interveinal scorching and/or necrosis progressing from the leaf edge to the midrib as the stress increases. As the deficiency progresses, most of the interveinal area becomes necrotic, the veins remain green and the leaves tend to curl and crinkle. In some plant such as legumes and potato, the initial symptom of deficiency is white speckling or freckling of the leaf blades. In contrast to nitrogen deficiency, chlorosis is irreversible in potassium deficiency, even if potassium is given to the plants. Because potassium is very mobile within the plant, symptoms only develop on young leaves in the case of extreme deficiency. Potassium deficiency can be greatly alleviated in the presence of sodium but the resulting sodium-rich plants are much more succulent than a high potassium plant. In some plants over 90% of the required potassium can be replaced with sodium without any reduction in growth. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
Said thanks: |
Sponsors |
![]() |
#2 (permalink) |
Orang Puteh
![]() Location: Washington Twp N.J.
Zone: 6a
Name: bob
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,528
BananaBucks
: 213,126
Feedback: 12 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 9,537 Times
Was
Thanked 4,058 Times in 1,694 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 565 Times
|
![]() Thanks Chris , using tomatoes was a good choice. I hope yours dont look like that though. Very well done.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#3 (permalink) |
Living in Exile
![]() Location: Henderson NV
Zone: 9 Mediterranean climate
Name: Paulo
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,767
BananaBucks
: 293,506
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 1,352 Times
Was
Thanked 1,620 Times in 706 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 101 Times
|
![]() bob you beat me to it thanks Chris that it just about the best example of meager and miner deficiencies iv see on any agro site thanks
made me run out side an look at my garden i need Kelp LOL or is that help LOL
__________________
Helping to foster understanding for the learning disabled ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#4 (permalink) |
Location: Central FL
Zone: 9a
Name: KJ
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 174
BananaBucks
: 18,218
Feedback: 2 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 625 Times
Was
Thanked 197 Times in 87 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 422 Times
|
![]() Fantastic resource! You're hitting them out of the park, one after the next today.
__________________
I've got to stop asking people, "How stupid can you be." People are taking it as a challenge. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#5 (permalink) |
Bananaculturist
![]() Location: Houston, TX area
Zone: 9
Name: Brent
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,019
BananaBucks
: 229,262
Feedback: 22 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 1,339 Times
Was
Thanked 2,263 Times in 1,178 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 191 Times
|
![]() Thanks, Chris-that's a great photo guide!
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
Sponsors |
![]() |
#6 (permalink) |
![]() Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,111
BananaBucks
: 255,938
Feedback: 22 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 1,378 Times
Was
Thanked 1,402 Times in 558 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 535 Times
|
![]() Tha'll do, Chris. that'll do (I've been watching Shrek).
I think tomatoes are a great choice for this because they're as demanding or more so than bananas and while the symptoms may show up a little different, it gives a grower some perspective as to what's going on...er....plant-wise. Great job! This is why it's so important to change nutes on a regular basis too. Some of these may be depleted faster than others and there's no way to know exactly what's being used up without chancing a deficiency. Last edited by Lagniappe : 08-08-2009 at 07:12 PM. |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#7 (permalink) |
Name: Chris
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 175
BananaBucks
: 76,563
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 57 Times
Was
Thanked 104 Times in 38 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times
|
![]() I have a list of pretty much all I can think of that states the NPK %, for those of you doing compost teas or soil amendments.
Alfalfa Hay: 2.45/05/2.1 Apple Fruit: 0.05/0.02/0.1 Apple Leaves: 1.0/0.15/0.4 Apple Pomace: 0.2/0.02/0.15 Apple skins(ash) : 0/3.0/11/74 Banana Residues (ash): 1.75/0.75/0.5 Barley (grain): 0/0/0.5 Barley (straw): 0/0/1.0 Basalt Rock: 0/0/1.5 Bat Guano: 5.0-8.0/4.0-5.0/1.0 Beans, garden(seed and hull): 0.25/0.08/03 Beet Wastes: 0.4/0.4/0.7-4.1 Blood meal: 15.0/0/0 Bone Black: 1.5/0/0 Bonemeal (raw): 3.3-4.1/21.0/0.2 Bonemeal (steamed): 1.6-2.5/21.0/0.2 Brewery Wastes (wet): 1.0/0.5/0.05 Buckwheat straw: 0/0/2.0 Cantaloupe Rinds (ash): 0/9.77/12.0 Castor pomace: 4.0-6.6/1.0-2.0/1.0-2.0 Cattail reeds and water lily stems: 2.0/0.8/3.4 Cattail Seed: 0.98/0.25/0.1 Cattle Manure (fresh): 0.29/0.25/0.1 Cherry Leaves: 0.6/0/0.7 Chicken Manure (fresh): 1.6/1.0-1.5/0.6-1.0 Clover: 2/0/0/0 (also contains calcium) Cocoa Shell Dust: 1.0/1.5/1.7 Coffee Grounds: 2.0/0.36/0.67 Corn (grain): 1.65/0.65/0.4 Corn (green forage): 0.4/0.13/0.33 Corn cobs: 0/0/2.0 Corn Silage: 0.42/0/0 Cornstalks: 0.75/0/0.8 Cottonseed hulls (ash): 0/8.7/23.9 Cottonseed Meal: 7.0/2.0-3.0/1.8 Cotton Wastes (factory): 1.32/0.45/0.36 Cowpea Hay: 3.0/0/2.3 Cowpeas (green forage): 0.45/0.12/0.45 Cowpeas (seed): 3.1/1.0/1.2 Crabgrass (green): 0.66/0.19/0.71 Crabs (dried, ground): 10.0/0/0 Crabs (fresh): 5.0/3.6/0.2 Cucumber Skins (ash): 0/11.28/27.2 Dried Blood: 10.0-14.0/1.0-5.0/0 Duck Manure (fresh): 1.12/1.44/0.6 Eggs: 2.25/0.4/0.15 Eggshells: 1.19/0.38/0.14 Feathers: 15.3/0/0 Felt Wastes: 14.0/0/1.0 Field Beans (seed): 4.0/1.2/1.3 Feild Beans (shells): 1.7/0.3/1.3 Fish (dried, ground): 8.0/7.0/0 Fish Scraps (fresh): 6.5/3.75/0 Gluten Meal: 6.4/0/0 Granite Dust: 0/0/3.0-5.5 Grapefruit Skins (ash): 0/3.6/30.6 Grape Leaves: 0.45/0.1/0.4 Grape Pomace: 1.0/0.07/0.3 Grass (imature): 1.0/0/1.2 Greensand: 0/1.5/7.0 Hair: 14/0/0/0 Hoof and Horn Meal: 12.5/2.0/0 Horse Manure (fresh): 0.44/0.35/0.3 Incinerator Ash: 0.24/5.15/2.33 Jellyfish (dried): 4.6/0/0 Kentucky Bluegrass (green): 0.66/0.19/0.71 Kentucky Bluegrass (hay): 1.2/0.4/2.0 Leather Dust: 11.0/0/0 Lemon Culls: 0.15/0.06/0.26 Lemon Skins (ash): 06.33/1.0 Lobster Refuse: 4.5/3.5/0 Milk: 0.5/0.3/0.18 Millet Hay: 1.2/0/3.2 Molasses Residue: 0.7/0/5.32 Molasses Waste: 0/0/3.0-4.0 Mud (fresh water): 1.37/0.26/0.22 Mud (harbour): 0.99/0.77/0.05 Mud (salt): 0.4.0/0 Mussels: 1.0/0.12/0.13 Nutshells: 2.5/0/0 Oak Leaves: 0.8/0.35/0.2 Oats (grain): 2.0/0.8/0.6 Oats (green fodder): 0.49/0/0 Oat straw: 0/0/1.5 Olive Pomace: 1.15/0.78/1.3 Orange Culls: 0.2/0.13/0.21 Orange Skins: 0/3.0/27.0 Oyster Shells: 0.36/0/0 Peach Leaves: 0.9/0.15/0.6 Pea forage: 1.5-2.5/0/1.4 Peanuts (seed/kernals): 3.6/0.7/0.45 Peanut Shells: 3.6/0.15/0.5 Pea Pods (ash): 0/3.0/9.0 Pea (vines): 0.25/0/0.7 Pear Leaves: 0.7/0/0.4 Pigeon manure (fresh): 4.19/2.24/1.0 Pigweed (rough): 0.6/0.1/0 Pine Needles: 0.5/0.12/0.03 Potato Skins (ash): 0/5.18/27.5 Potaote Tubers: 0.35/0.15/2.5 Potatoe Vines (dried): 0.6/0.16/1.6 Prune Refuse: 0.18/0.07/0.31 Pumpkins (fresh): 0.16/0.07/0.26 Rabbitbrush (ash): 0/0/13.04 Rabbit Manure: 2.4/1.4/0.6 Ragweed: 0.76/0.26/0 Rapeseed meal: 0/1.0=2.0/1.0=3.0 Raspberry leaves: 1.45/0/0.6 Red clover hay: 2.1/0.6/2.1 Redrop Hay: 1.2/0.35/1.0 Rock and Mussel Deposits From Ocean: 0.22/0.09/1.78 Roses (flowers): 0.3/0.1/0.4 Rye Straw: 0/0/1.0 Salt March Hay: 1.1/0.25/0.75 Sardine Scrap: 8.0/7.1/0 Seaweed (dried): 1.1-1.5/0.75/4.9 Seaweed (fresh): 0.2-0.4/0/0 Sheep and Goat Manure (fresh): 0.55/0.6/0.3 Shoddy and Felt: 8.0/0/0 Shrimp Heads (dried): 7.8/4.2/0 Shrimp Wastes: 2.9/10.0/0 Siftings From Oyster Shell Mounds: 0.36/10.38/0.09 Silk Mill Wastes: 8.0/1.14/1.0 Silkworm Cocoons:10.0/1.82/1.08 Sludge: 2.0/1.9/0.3 Sludge (activated): 5.0/2.5-4.0/0.6 Smokehouse/Firepit Ash:0/0/4.96 Sorghum Straw:0/0/1.0 Soybean Hay: 1.5-3.0/0/1.2-2.3 Starfish: 1.8/0.2/0.25 Sugar Wastes (raw): 2.0/8.0/0 Sweet Potatoes: 0.25/0.1/0.5 Swine Manure (fresh): 0.6/0.45/0.5 Tanbark Ash: 0/0.34/3.8 Tanbark Ash (spent): 0/1.75/2.0 Tankage: 3.0-11.0/2.0-5.0/0 Tea Grounds: 4.15/0.62/0.4 Timothy Hay: 1.2/0.55/1.4 Tobacco Leaves: 4.0/0.5/6.0 Tobacco Stems: 2.5-3.7/0.6-0.9/4.5-7.0 Tomato Fruit: 0.2/0.07/0.35 Tomatoe Leaves: 0.35/0.1/0.4 Tomatoe Stalks: 0.35/0.1/0.5 Tung Oil Pumace: 6.1/0/0 Vetch Hay: 2.8/0/2.3 Waste Silt: 9.5/0/0 Wheat Bran: 2.4/2.9/1.6 Wheat (grain): 2.0/0.85/0.5 Wheat Straw: 0.5/0.15/0.8 White Clover (Green): 0.5/0.2/0.3 Winter Rye Hay: 0/0/1.0 Wood Ash: 0/1.0-2.0/6.0-10.0 Wool Wastes: 3.5-6.0/2.0-4.0/1.0-3.5 |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#8 (permalink) |
I think with my banana ;)
Location: BA, SK, CEU
Zone: Dfa (Köppen-geiger) <-> 7b/8a? (USDA)
Name: Jack
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,525
BananaBucks
: 216,390
Feedback: 2 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 2,771 Times
Was
Thanked 2,461 Times in 1,355 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 383 Times
|
![]() I bookmarked this page today, one of the best topics there are. Great job and please continue...
![]() I would also ask anyone, who has some banana deficiency pics, if he could send them to Chris, so that he can insert them in the first post. Thanks.
__________________
Thnx to Marcel, Ante, Dr. Chiranjit Parmar and Francesco for the plants I've received. ![]() Zeitgeist - Corporatocracy 101 (~2hrs) Zeitgeist - Moving Forward (~2.5hrs) Last edited by Jack Daw : 08-13-2009 at 07:58 AM. Reason: Trivial corrections |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#9 (permalink) |
Banned
Location: Ecuador, South America
Zone: USDA 13 / Köppen-Geiger BSh
Name: Lorax
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,532
BananaBucks
: 316,569
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 742 Times
Was
Thanked 3,040 Times in 1,188 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 464 Times
|
![]() Chris, can I adapt this for an article in BQ? Very often we get questions about what appear to be diseased bananas, but they're actually just short on something. It would be nice to be able to show them the symptoms of mineral deficiency, because it's often much easier to cure than the actual banana pests.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#10 (permalink) |
un-Retired
Location: Vista, CA
Zone: USDA 10b
Name: Richard
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 9,674
BananaBucks
: 592,578
Feedback: 9 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 3,636 Times
Was
Thanked 12,537 Times in 4,719 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,685 Times
|
![]() This is a great list. Note that the mineral composition of plant materials can vary widely depending on the source. For example, wild alfalfa hay is close to the value above, whereas commercial alfalfa has a higher potash level.
__________________
Back in business at plantsthatproduce.com |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
Said thanks: |
![]() |
#11 (permalink) | |
Name: Chris
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 175
BananaBucks
: 76,563
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 57 Times
Was
Thanked 104 Times in 38 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times
|
![]() Quote:
![]() Yeah, I think that if we have a banana leaf picture it would be good. I have several Rubbermaid tubs cut out and I'm just waiting for the TCs to put in them to starve them of each nute to get pics. In DWC, it will be no time before they start showing signs. Last edited by Jack Daw : 08-13-2009 at 10:57 AM. Reason: 2 posts in a row from 1 user |
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
Said thanks: |
![]() |
#12 (permalink) |
Banned
Location: Ecuador, South America
Zone: USDA 13 / Köppen-Geiger BSh
Name: Lorax
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,532
BananaBucks
: 316,569
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 742 Times
Was
Thanked 3,040 Times in 1,188 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 464 Times
|
![]() Cool - we'll plan it for Issue 4, then - that way you have time to starve the pups.
|
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#13 (permalink) |
Bananaculturist
![]() Location: Houston, TX area
Zone: 9
Name: Brent
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,019
BananaBucks
: 229,262
Feedback: 22 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 1,339 Times
Was
Thanked 2,263 Times in 1,178 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 191 Times
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#14 (permalink) |
Northern Tropics
Location: Muncie, Indiana zone 5
Zone: zone 5
Name: Sandy
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,718
BananaBucks
: 372,409
Feedback: 31 / 97%
Said "Thanks" 38 Times
Was
Thanked 1,801 Times in 682 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 9 Times
|
![]() when I first got my greenhouse like 7years ago, I didn't realize if you needed to make ph adjustments because over time the peat based potting soils will creep up to a higher ph because our well water here is like 7.0 and most plants like it lower than that and also they adjust peat based potting soils with lime and it leaches out over time when watering.So by spring, all my fall planted plants were growing streaky yellowing lime green (kind of like the color of a fire truck) leaves. I learned then to add white vinegar to adjust the ph. I use citric acid now, but same principle, only cheaper!
__________________
Sandy Burrell ![]() Northern Tropics Greenhouse 1501 East Fuson Road Muncie, IN 47302 www.northerntropics.com specializing in bananas, heirloom tomatoes and water gardening plants~ check out our new online store at our website! |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
Said thanks: |
![]() |
#15 (permalink) |
Redeemed
Location: STL, MO
Zone: 6
Name: Corbin
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 304
BananaBucks
: 76,141
Feedback: 2 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 149 Times
Was
Thanked 161 Times in 76 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 48 Times
|
![]() Great, great thread that I think deserves a 'Sticky'. Thank you for taking the time to share this.
__________________
The first law of thermodynamics, an expression of the principle of conservation of energy, states that energy can be transformed (changed from one form to another), but cannot be created or destroyed. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermod...thermodynamics ![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
|