Grey Saba (Pisang Kepok Kapas)

novisyatria · 03-01-2010, 05:54 AM

one of variant of pisang kepok (saba), named pisang kepok kapas. its skin fruit colors is grey, while other saba is green. very interesting and beautiful. this variant include rare. like other saba, its type delicious for fried bananas. any opinion?

regards

Jack Daw · 03-01-2010, 01:28 PM

That´s just beautiful, Novi, please do keep threads like this one coming! Just beautiful.
How does it taste? Like Saba?

Abnshrek · 03-01-2010, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Daw

That´s just beautiful, Novi, please do keep threads like this one coming! Just beautiful.
How does it taste? Like Saba?

I second that motion... Big Grey Nanners are good too I bet.. lol :^)

LilRaverBoi · 03-01-2010, 05:13 PM

Yeah, I do like the coloration of the fruit...very cool! Thanks for the info, Novi!

novisyatria · 03-01-2010, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Daw

That´s just beautiful, Novi, please do keep threads like this one coming! Just beautiful.
How does it taste? Like Saba?

yeah its delicious for fried bananas, eeven can eat directly.

MediaHound · 03-01-2010, 07:15 PM

Saba, yum!

bikoro child · 03-09-2010, 02:51 AM

Beautiful one! From where is it coming? Kapas Island (Malaysia)?

novisyatria · 03-09-2010, 04:22 AM

no. its from Java, indonesia

nannergirl · 03-12-2010, 04:40 PM

Yum Novi, pass the bananas

) what a beautiful nanner, how tall is that one?

novisyatria · 03-29-2010, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nannergirl

Yum Novi, pass the bananas

) what a beautiful nanner, how tall is that one?

big plant is about 5-6 meter

tissu culture grey saba after 3 weeks

Moderator, i think this thread should better removed to TC forum... thanks

Jack Daw · 03-29-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by novisyatria

Moderator, i think this thread should better removed to TC forum... thanks

Sure I will. Nice job with the TC, Novi!

Keep those pics coming!

CValentine · 03-29-2010, 01:20 PM

Wonderful Novi!!

Thank you for including us here in your FABULOUS TC adventures!!!

The kids & I are so excited to see your plants doing so well!!

~Cheryl

Dalmatiansoap · 06-26-2010, 05:47 AM

Any updates Novi?

Kostas · 06-26-2010, 08:08 AM

Very beautyfull Saba variant there Novi! If you have plantlets of this one availiable,even non acclimated ones,i would sure love to buy some!

Jack Daw · 06-26-2010, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kostas

Very beautyfull Saba variant there Novi! If you have plantlets of this one availiable,even non acclimated ones,i would sure love to buy some!

You would have to take a whole load of them. Small TC plantlets don't usually make it to Europe from overseas. They don't have enough energy or sufficiently big corms. Another problem is the shipping time, which can, sometimes, exceed 30 days (like to me from India

)

Rmplmnz · 06-26-2010, 05:18 PM

Nice plant and raceme...but..the shape of the fruit is not very similar to the green Saba (which has very little if any upward curvature).

The plant has significant dark mottling...the Green Sabas are almost entirely green.

The taste and texture are similar??

Kostas · 06-27-2010, 05:23 PM

Hi Jack!

I dont have much problem regarding a resonable amount of quantity as i know i can find homes for the extra

Of course just 1 to 10 would be a good and more managable number if he could send.
If the plantlet(s) is send in a closed,sterile container with nutrient to support it(a growth or rooting medium) for the trip,i think it would be just fine,just a little chlorotic when it arrives! But Novi is much more experienced with that than i and would surely know a way if he wants to sell some!

The differences Rmplmnz mentions are exactly why i like it!

Jack Daw · 06-28-2010, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kostas

Hi Jack!

I dont have much problem regarding a resonable amount of quantity as i know i can find homes for the extra

Of course just 1 to 10 would be a good and more managable number if he could send.
If the plantlet(s) is send in a closed,sterile container with nutrient to support it(a growth or rooting medium) for the trip,i think it would be just fine,just a little chlorotic when it arrives! But Novi is much more experienced with that than i and would surely know a way if he wants to sell some!

The differences Rmplmnz mentions are exactly why i like it!

I was thinking more like... 100 pieces to get 20 alive to Europe. Or so I was told by the European banana shops and US TC company.

And there's the second problem. Rooting/TC liquids (or other special liquids) are subject to much more drastic border control than the plants themselves.

Remember, that it probably wouldn't fly directly to Greece from M'ysia, but would most likely come through a midway station, such as the ones in GB, Italy and France with regular postal delivery flights.

As we've seen many times already, the safest way to get the corm from Malaysia is to actually bring/smuggle it from a vacation there.

But there's also this saying I've read somewhere:

Quote:

''To try,is to risk failure......To not try,is to guarantee it''

Kostas · 06-28-2010, 11:50 AM

Well,i dont have much problem getting 100 but i doubt i will be so unsuccessfull to loose 80!!! Things must not be that bad...I can offer high humidity and good light in good hygien conditions. Of course,when you buy less,you can take care of them better and that results in even higher success than having to take care of a lot together. The second results in more losses just for practical reason,causes that could have been avoided with the more care few plants would get.

I think packet inspection,if it even happens,takes place in country of destination and not in intermediate countries. That makes for a high chance of success

Also,a small vial in an envelope labeled whatever,isnt going to attract any suspicions about ''special,contolled liquids''

Plus there is that saying as you say...And i tend to follow it!

Btw,if Novi sends me some,i will send you one(or more

depending on quantity that acclimates well!)

jfern · 06-29-2010, 08:28 AM

Hello

En Rivas;Nicaragua tenemos muy poco la variedad Saba y esta es verde pero en la finca del productor los racimos tienen hasta 130 dedos pero es el Saba normal (verde).Algo que tienen que saber es que todos las variedades de ABB son ricas en almidones por lo tanto la producción de harina es grande y esta previene el cancer de colon según los ultimos estudios. Asi que a comer de estas variedades.

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Translated as:

Hello

In Rivas, Nicaragua, there aren't many Sabas and mostly only its green form. Bot on the producer's farm, green Saba's clusters can have up to 130 fingers (green version). Something interesting about this variety (and all ABB varieties in general) is that it is very rich in starches and flour production is very good (can't figure this one out)... and this prevents colon cancer according to recent studies. So eat these varieties, when it is possible.

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Jerry, fakt sa musim naucit po spanielsky.

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Some pics of Jerry's Saba bananas.

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