'SH-3640' - Best of the FHIA Line - Page 2

edzone9 · 02-15-2015, 11:46 AM

Im looking forward to tasting the 3640, If its a winner with my family, it stays in my Garden...

Ed

hydroid · 02-25-2015, 10:52 PM

I'm also surprised that you would like the Cavendish over the Namwa. Have not tried the 3640 but I have real good luck with the Namwa and it's my "Go to banana for taste and yield. But that's what's fun about the bananas, diversity.

PR-Giants · 02-28-2015, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by hydroid

I'm also surprised that you would like the Cavendish over the Namwa. Have not tried the 3640 but I have real good luck with the Namwa and it's my "Go to banana for taste and yield. But that's what's fun about the bananas, diversity.

It's sad that that's the best banana you can grow, but trying to convince yourself it's good might not be the best solution.

After reading many posts from people like yourself, having to suffer with crappy bananas, I've made attempts to help. In the Tropics, we can grow all the cultivars, but consumers just won't buy the crappy bananas like the Namwa and Hua Moa. Plus in the Tropics it only takes us a few months to evaluate a cultivar as opposed to several years for you cold weather warriors.

I've been evaluating many cultivars for cycle duration, vigor, plant size, fruit size, bunch size, and eating qualities. Although I mainly focus on short cycle cultivars, which many appear promising.

Hua Moa vs. Tigua

Both are Pacific bananas in Genome group AAB

Cycle Duration
Both are Short Cycle

Vigor
Both are very vigorous

Plant Size
Both have similar height & girth

Fruit Size
Both acceptable

Bunch Size
Both acceptable

Taste
Hua Moa is a low quality cooking & dessert banana
Tigua, I'll have to wait a few more days but
I've been told to expect a very good banana.

Julian · 02-28-2015, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hydroid

I'm also surprised that you would like the Cavendish over the Namwa. Have not tried the 3640 but I have real good luck with the Namwa and it's my "Go to banana for taste and yield. But that's what's fun about the bananas, diversity.

All things equal, I would take Namwa over Cavs every time. Cavs are bleh… The only reason I eat Cavs are that they are dirt cheap.

Nicolas Naranja · 03-01-2015, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PR-Giants

But consumers just won't buy the crappy bananas like the Namwa and Hua Moa.
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I beg to differ. Someone is buying lots of Namwah and they are paying $0.90/lb wholesale to buy them. I sell enough Hua Moa at $0.50 per fruit, to say that someone is buying them. I put out samples, people love it and buy it. I get calls with some regularity because people find me on the internet and they want pallets of Hua Moa. I am not saying they are the best, but there is a pretty damn good market for them.

hydroid · 03-01-2015, 07:10 AM

Those two crappy bananas Namwah and Hua Moa are bananas that Don "Going Bananas" recommended to me. i was just there this week and he told me Hua Moa was one of his favorites. I certainly don't claim to be an authority on bananas but I do respect Don's opinion and have had very good luck on his recommendations for my area. But my preference is most home grown naners over store bought Cavendish, but that's just me, your milage may vary.
Bo

Richard · 06-18-2015, 09:28 PM

Gift from crazy_banana

crazy banana · 06-18-2015, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard

Gift from crazy_banana

Hope it will grow and fruit fast for you.
I am so excited to report that one of my SH3640 is putting out a flag leaf.

Going Bananas · 08-21-2015, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PR-Giants

Sometimes adults do things that they might not wanna do because their able to rationalize the benefit.

It's fairly common knowledge that leaving a male bud intact can be very helpful in identifying a banana plant.

By knowing what you're growing/tasting you'll be able to share meaningful data with others.

I agree with PRG.
Going through the photo gallery,
there isnt much pictures of the 3640
since the first pictures posted in 07
by Greenie and Nanaman.
In fact, there are only 3 pages totaling 50 pics.
Super dwarf cavendish has way more pics.

It would be great if for those who have them
to PLEASE take pics and post in the gallery so that if
Agristarts have these available as tc,
we can positively ID them albeit in tc,
adolescent and fruiting stage.

Cheers

merce3 · 09-01-2015, 08:08 PM

short sweet article on 3640:
http://www.bioline.org.br/pdf?cs08003

compares fruit quality to gran nain and scores it the highest of the fhia's tested.

sputinc7 · 09-19-2016, 06:22 PM

Please put me firmly in the "Don't like Namwah" category. Tried them twice from two different places. They tasted the same and I didn't like either one. I was so looking forward to liking them, as I have two in my yard. My kids didn't care for them, either but my wife liked them. I tried them both times in varying stages of ripeness. I just do not like them, sorry.
That said, I recently got a 3 foot 3640 pup from Worm farmer and it's starting to take off so maybe next summer I will have some of those to eat. My theory is that some have the real deal 3640 and others got an imposter from somewhere, and I don't know who got the real one so I will be taking lots of pics and doing the legwork and whatever I have, I hope I like them.

Jonifg · 05-22-2017, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PR-Giants

Thanks for the info, but it doesn't look like a SH-3640.
Next time leave the male bud on and try doing a proper ID.

With some experience you'll find the SH-3640 to be extremely easy to distinguish from the other common FHIA cultivars prior to bud emergence.

Why do you bag the bunch?

sputinc7 · 05-22-2017, 10:12 PM

Bagging the bunch is done mostly for aesthetic purposes, like those spots on your bananas. It makes them prettier, mostly.

Jonifg · 05-23-2017, 08:33 AM

Ok good to know......
Another question from a newbie.....
Do you bag a few if you want them to ripen at different rates...,do you bag the whole bunch while on the tree for a beautiful bunch.....do you bag them just as they are getting ripe......yes, I really am a newbie, I am on my second stalk.

sputinc7 · 05-23-2017, 01:45 PM

http://www.shareagfoundation.org/ima...s/belize14.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3Mijm3UbYK...21014-0654.jpg

http://hackingfamily.com/images/Banana2_CM.jpg

Hope that helps...

bananimal · 05-24-2017, 09:47 AM

I believe Nick bags mature bunches for cosmetic reasons. Bugs, sun burn.... easier to sell.

I'm with Keith --- gotta love the SH3640 - one of my early mats.

I love my Viente Cohol also.

Joni --- I have pups if you want them.

Dan

Jonifg · 05-24-2017, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sputinc7

http://www.shareagfoundation.org/ima...s/belize14.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3Mijm3UbYK...21014-0654.jpg

http://hackingfamily.com/images/Banana2_CM.jpg

Hope that helps...

Yes it sure does, that is very helpful for me......thanks
Where do you get the bags?

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sputinc7 Location: Palm Bay, Florida Find me on the map! Zone: 9b Name: Steve Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,394 BananaBucks : 123,665 Feedback: 3 / 100% Said "Thanks" 352 Times Was Thanked 2,430 Times in 971 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 295 Times	Re: 'SH-3640' - Best of the FHIA Line Please put me firmly in the "Don't like Namwah" category. Tried them twice from two different places. They tasted the same and I didn't like either one. I was so looking forward to liking them, as I have two in my yard. My kids didn't care for them, either but my wife liked them. I tried them both times in varying stages of ripeness. I just do not like them, sorry. That said, I recently got a 3 foot 3640 pup from Worm farmer and it's starting to take off so maybe next summer I will have some of those to eat. My theory is that some have the real deal 3640 and others got an imposter from somewhere, and I don't know who got the real one so I will be taking lots of pics and doing the legwork and whatever I have, I hope I like them. __________________ If you lose your head and give up, you neither live nor win. https://sputinc7.wixsite.com/covwc Varieties I supposedly bought: Manzano, Cavendish, Blue Java, Sweetheart, and Gros Michel. What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

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sputinc7 Location: Palm Bay, Florida Find me on the map! Zone: 9b Name: Steve Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,394 BananaBucks : 123,665 Feedback: 3 / 100% Said "Thanks" 352 Times Was Thanked 2,430 Times in 971 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 295 Times	Re: 'SH-3640' - Best of the FHIA Line Bagging the bunch is done mostly for aesthetic purposes, like those spots on your bananas. It makes them prettier, mostly. __________________ If you lose your head and give up, you neither live nor win. https://sputinc7.wixsite.com/covwc Varieties I supposedly bought: Manzano, Cavendish, Blue Java, Sweetheart, and Gros Michel. What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

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Jonifg Zone: Zone 10 Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 64 BananaBucks : 20,029 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 360 Times Was Thanked 50 Times in 26 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 33 Times	Re: 'SH-3640' - Best of the FHIA Line Ok good to know...... Another question from a newbie..... Do you bag a few if you want them to ripen at different rates...,do you bag the whole bunch while on the tree for a beautiful bunch.....do you bag them just as they are getting ripe......yes, I really am a newbie, I am on my second stalk.

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sputinc7 Location: Palm Bay, Florida Find me on the map! Zone: 9b Name: Steve Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,394 BananaBucks : 123,665 Feedback: 3 / 100% Said "Thanks" 352 Times Was Thanked 2,430 Times in 971 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 295 Times	Re: 'SH-3640' - Best of the FHIA Line http://www.shareagfoundation.org/ima...s/belize14.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3Mijm3UbYK...21014-0654.jpg http://hackingfamily.com/images/Banana2_CM.jpg Hope that helps... __________________ If you lose your head and give up, you neither live nor win. https://sputinc7.wixsite.com/covwc Varieties I supposedly bought: Manzano, Cavendish, Blue Java, Sweetheart, and Gros Michel. What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

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