musa Hajaray sp hybrid

bikoro child · 08-14-2008, 05:17 AM

Hi you all
i received one hour ago that banana supposed to be an hybrid beetween Musa Sikkimensis and Musa Rajapuri...No red on the leaves like musa Helen but seems to be very waxy...For chance it's not a seedling but a pup..I 'll try to keep it safe cause I want to see the seedless fruit it's told to produce...
Here are the pics...

dablo93 · 08-14-2008, 05:38 AM

nice and healthy pup! congrats

tony palmer · 08-14-2008, 05:42 AM

Nice one bikoro,

were have you bough it from? that would be a good one to try in the UK.

bikoro child · 08-14-2008, 05:52 AM

I found it here:
TropicaFlore
that nursery ship into whole Europe,but you 'll have to wait next year i'm afraid I took the last one for the year...

tony palmer · 08-14-2008, 09:14 AM

Thanks bikoro, thats one for next years list

51st state · 12-01-2008, 05:31 PM

soon tony, soon.... I'll be in touch

I'm also reliably informed that based on leaf shape, it's probably a hybrid between Sikkimensis and Balbisiana

tony palmer · 12-01-2008, 06:23 PM

Nice one Kev, are they from seed pups or TC. Any chance of a picture?

asacomm · 12-01-2008, 06:57 PM

It seems to be a quite interesting species!!! It is written that this is a hybrid
between M.Sikkimensis and M. Rajapuri, and the fruits contain no seeds.

Question:
Is it possible to be a seedless when hybridized between seedy speices
(Musa Sikkimensis) and seedless species(Musa Rajapuri)?

Chironex · 12-01-2008, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asacomm

It seems to be a quite interesting species!!! It is written that this is a hybrid
between M.Sikkimensis and M. Rajapuri, and the fruits contain no seeds.

Question:
Is it possible to be a seedless when hybridized between seedy speices
(Musa Sikkimensis) and seedless species(Musa Rajapuri)?

That's a good question, but I suppose it can be done since one can breed seedless hybrids from 2 seeded parents.

Quite an interesting banana, I haven't ever heard of it. It will be great to see what it does when it grows out more. Please post more photos in the spring.

Gabe15 · 12-01-2008, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asacomm

It seems to be a quite interesting species!!! It is written that this is a hybrid
between M.Sikkimensis and M. Rajapuri, and the fruits contain no seeds.

Question:
Is it possible to be a seedless when hybridized between seedy speices
(Musa Sikkimensis) and seedless species(Musa Rajapuri)?

It is very possible, that is how banana breeding is done. However, it is rather difficult and usually only the result of mass breeding programs, especially when triploids are involved (as is the case with this supposed 'Raja Puri' hybrid). I would be very careful about getting too confident in the names and origins of these supposed edible x wild hybrids, although they are possible, because they are from an unverified source (especially a nursery), you cannot be sure they are what they claim to be.

51st state · 12-02-2008, 05:03 AM

M. sp.'Hajaray' is an edible hybrid.

see pics...

It is sold in the markets of Kalimpong.

"Musa Hajaray ( Hazar in our language = one thousand, so, this would translate to Musa thousanday?) as its name suggests produces many large fruits. It does well in Kalimpong and even in higher, slightly cooler regions where slight winter frost would settle. However, it does best in the warmer hill slopes below Kalimpong. Fruits are large and sweet when ripe and two bananas would be quite filling.
From plant habit, Musa Hajaray looks more like a hybrid of Musa balbisiana."

I will hopefully be selling this and some other interesting cultivars from Spring next year. I will offer them to the .org members community before selling them elsewhere.

Chironex · 12-02-2008, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 51st state

M. sp.'Hajaray' is an edible hybrid.

see pics...

It is sold in the markets of Kalimpong.

"Musa Hajaray ( Hazar in our language = one thousand, so, this would translate to Musa thousanday?) as its name suggests produces many large fruits. It does well in Kalimpong and even in higher, slightly cooler regions where slight winter frost would settle. However, it does best in the warmer hill slopes below Kalimpong. Fruits are large and sweet when ripe and two bananas would be quite filling.
From plant habit, Musa Hajaray looks more like a hybrid of Musa balbisiana."

I will hopefully be selling this and some other interesting cultivars from Spring next year. I will offer them to the .org members community before selling them elsewhere.

Sign me up for one Kev! They look like fat Orinoco's.

Panaroma · 12-02-2008, 02:46 PM

Very fascinating hybrid indeed! Nice produce also.
Bokiro child; how is their growthrate compared to Helens and Sikkimensis?

asacomm · 12-02-2008, 06:11 PM

I became more and more interested in this banana especially after seeing that
this banana fruits are actually sold in the market. This must be true and the
fact.

I haven't heard that this banana plant is offered in the States, and then I
just wonder why and how can we get it outside EU?(This banana plant has
been sold in France from where they can ship them only inside EU countries)

Anydoby knows it?

Chironex · 12-02-2008, 07:12 PM

When Kev (51st State) gets them going this spring, there will be some in the States.

buffy · 12-02-2008, 09:38 PM

Looks a bit like my Saba?

Mark Hall · 12-03-2008, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 51st state

I will hopefully be selling this and some other interesting cultivars from Spring next year. I will offer them to the .org members community before selling them elsewhere.

Keep one back for me please Kev. What else do you hope to have?

bigdog · 12-03-2008, 10:36 AM

Wow, those are some FAT fruits. Looks like a winner! Keep one back for me too Kev (did I even have to say that?). Thanks,

Frank

asacomm · 12-04-2008, 04:03 AM

Funny indeed!
I have serched this species every where and got the result only in the
French webs, not in Germany, not in UK and not in Australia.
Of course as far as I know no one offers this species in the States.
It's funny. Why this is sold only in France and not in other countries?

Basjoofriend · 01-23-2009, 02:35 PM

Hi,

I will publish Hajaray also in the new English edition of my banana book. But I need some pics, also with fruits. May I use the fruit pics for my book without problems with the copyrights?

Basjoofriend

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