Manzano Bloom

abjones116 · 04-27-2014, 10:52 AM

Third bloom of the year. This time is a Manzano (suspected).

I misplaced the height and circumference of the tree but once I find it I will update.

I got this tree from another local forum member at about 1 1/2 feet. I placed it in the ground last year in February. About 1 year 2 months to flowering. We had a much cooler winter well into February this year which a lot of my trees took some damage.

16 APR

20 APR

You can see a few Orinoco hands in the background.

22 APR

27 APR

That picture sucks, I will try to get another one today.

venturabananas · 04-28-2014, 01:17 AM

Looks like a Namwah, based on the purple pedicels and shape of the bloom.

abjones116 · 04-28-2014, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by venturabananas

Looks like a Namwah, based on the purple pedicels and shape of the bloom.

Thank you. That's what I was afraid of and I was trying to find some comparisons. What would help you pin it down more?

venturabananas · 04-28-2014, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by abjones116

Thank you. That's what I was afraid of and I was trying to find some comparisons. What would help you pin it down more?

Some better photos with better lighting that show the new female fingers/flowers better would help. From what I see in the photos you've posted already, the female fingers have purple pedicels, the emerging bud is shaped like a football, and the petiole canals are mostly closed. If that is accurate, it is almost certainly a Pisang Awak ("Namwah") variety. Looks like one of the tall ones, such as "Ice Cream Namwah" or "Misi Luki Namwah".

abjones116 · 04-28-2014, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by venturabananas

Some better photos with better lighting that show the new female fingers/flowers better would help. From what I see in the photos you've posted already, the female fingers have purple pedicels, the emerging bud is shaped like a football, and the petiole canals are mostly closed. If that is accurate, it is almost certainly a Pisang Awak ("Namwah") variety. Looks like one of the tall ones, such as "Ice Cream Namwah" or "Misi Luki Namwah".

Here is one from today:

ez · 04-28-2014, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by abjones116

Thank you. That's what I was afraid of and I was trying to find some comparisons. What would help you pin it down more?

Manzano

abjones116 · 04-28-2014, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ez

Manzano

Ed,

Perfect post. Great photos. I definitely do not have a Manzano. The flowers are pink purplish. I'm starting to lean to a Namwah. Trying to do some more research.

robguz24 · 04-28-2014, 08:16 PM

Agree with Mark. It's a Namwah.

PR-Giants · 05-02-2014, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by abjones116

27 APR

That picture sucks, I will try to get another one today.

It's very common for someone to misidentify a Manzano.

Yours looks like something in the Bluggoe subgroup. You probably noticed the purple
pedicels on the female fingers on the top hand has faded in the Apr 27 photo.

A Manzano only has purple pedicels on the bottom side of the female fingers and
it will fade in about 18 hours.

A Namwa has purple pedicels on the female fingers that will last 2 weeks.

These are photos of the same Manzano & Namwa cultivars I sent you last year.

Manzano

Namwa

abjones116 · 07-18-2014, 05:29 PM

Thanks Keith!

BrianOC714 · 07-19-2014, 01:14 PM

Looks great. Good luck.

04-27-2014, 10:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
abjones116 Banned Location: South Texas, USA Zone: 10 Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 156 BananaBucks : 40,198 Feedback: 11 / 87% Said "Thanks" 117 Times Was Thanked 158 Times in 60 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 13 Times	Manzano Bloom Third bloom of the year. This time is a Manzano (suspected). I misplaced the height and circumference of the tree but once I find it I will update. I got this tree from another local forum member at about 1 1/2 feet. I placed it in the ground last year in February. About 1 year 2 months to flowering. We had a much cooler winter well into February this year which a lot of my trees took some damage. 16 APR 20 APR You can see a few Orinoco hands in the background. 22 APR 27 APR That picture sucks, I will try to get another one today.

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venturabananas venturabananas's Photo Gallery Location: Ventura, CA Find me on the map! Zone: 10 Name: Mark Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,845 BananaBucks : 270,050 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 1,752 Times Was Thanked 3,969 Times in 1,713 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 39 Times	Re: Manzano Bloom Looks like a Namwah, based on the purple pedicels and shape of the bloom. __________________

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