Glow in the dark Banana - Page 2

bencelest · 12-19-2007, 06:13 PM

heh-heh, so you can't eat the glow in the dark banana Mskitty.
Eh?

aroidgrower · 12-19-2007, 06:32 PM

From what I have gathered with this certain gene it is found in sea creatures and is often eated with no side effects squid fish and other sea creatures have this exact gene.
The more I have heard about gene manipulation the more amazing and frightening somethings can be. Their is a new term called genetic pollution and this is were a undisired gene is introduced and then replicates itself. Much different than chemical pollution were with time it will delute, genetic pollution can multiply.
Another scary idea is drugs that can change your genes now from my understanding they have used viruses like HIV to carry genes into a animal the genes with then showup as it spreads the gene with the virus. The idea is to get a non invasive virus and add the desired genes to it and then able to trasefer them into a mature person or animal. My thinking is could this gene then be transfered with a kiss or with blood? The reality could be very scary in someways. Their are very few laws or guidlines about it now hopefully this will change.
On another note if one is looking to become a superhero they have 6 mice that have been genetically altered
1 has super strength gene taken away myostatin blocker
2 super smart photographic memory
3 super eye sight
4 super fast
5 super agile
6 able to heal faster. I am not sure if this is with the Flatworm Gene which I have heard of work being used were you could possibly regrow a arm if it were cut off?

From what I have heard all of these genes could easily be put into a human.

Their was one other which was research on antiaging. I have not heard much on it is a few years but it looked very possible at the time.

mskitty38583 · 12-19-2007, 10:35 PM

i dont eat anything that has been genetically engineered, or genetically altered in any way.

i am sam, sam i am and hell no i wont eat a glow in the dark nana and wont eat any necular ham. wont eat it here, wont eat it there. i wont eat it anywere. not on a train, not in a bus, and if you try and make me, i will probably cuss. cause, i am sam, sam i am.

aroidgrower · 12-20-2007, 01:59 AM

You probably already have eaten more than you think of it LOL. Sorry Sam!! Sad but true.

mskitty38583 · 12-20-2007, 02:31 AM

not if it specifically states organic.

AllenF · 12-20-2007, 11:46 AM

Sorry Miss Kitty. Organic just indicates that no chemicals or man made fertilizers were used in raising it.

You would be surprised how many genetically altered vegetables and grain are in use. There is no way to segregate the plants that were altered in the past 20 years and allowed to breed with unaltered plants.

Tomatoes got such a nice red color (or yellow, orange, wine for that matter), and such good storage and shipping properties through much more than simple cross breeding. The same thing applies to most other plants where color, storage, disease resistance etc. are important.

Allen

PS - Most hard spring wheat has been generically altered or has been bred with wheat that has been genetically altered to resist a disease called 'rust'. This happened about 30 years ago. Hard spring wheat is used for bread and other baking.

AllenF · 12-20-2007, 12:01 PM

Most genetic altering was called progress and most of the people involved were very concerned about the effect on the consumer.

With the recent lack of morals and ethics in corporations, it is hard to believe that concern for the consumer is very high on their list of priorities. Recent genetic engineering concerns me.

Allen

mskitty38583 · 12-20-2007, 12:05 PM

i know, i know.i just am totally against this type of engineering. i really believe it is wrong.my personal opinion.

thats why im trying to get a garden patch together. that way i know where my food comes from and whats in it, the mennonites here in sparta refuse to do any of this, so i will start buying my meat there. i do not agree with cloneing , i do not agree with genetically engineering of food for anytype of consumption. i believe it is moraly wrong. i have serious issues with this type of science.

momoese · 12-20-2007, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aroidgrower

You probably already have eaten more than you think of it LOL. Sorry Sam!! Sad but true.

Yep, if you have eaten fast food you have eaten GMO's. The corn in the taco shells, the wheat in the tortillas, the beans, the tomatoes, etc etc. It's tough to avoid.

mskitty38583 · 12-20-2007, 12:16 PM

i dont eat fastfood. no only is it gross it is totally unhealthy.

Tropicallvr · 12-20-2007, 01:06 PM

Monsanto is trying to patent every crop and animal it can get its hands on. They are even trying to patent pigs now, as well as ancient basmati rice from India and many other things that have been growing naturally for thousands of years.
Organic canola growers in Canada have had their crops contaminated with GMO, then the GMO patent owners for that canola sued them for growing the patented canloa(because it got pollinated and then it showed up in the next years planting of the organic canolas DNA). Natural corn growers have also been sued for the same thing in the US.
In my opinion the motivation to grow GMO by big corpirations is really just money and control.

mskitty38583 · 12-20-2007, 02:12 PM

i believe that in the uk, youd have to ask some of our members from there, their government has banned the use and sale of geneticall engineered grains and cloned foods. i remember hearing something on pbs about that, just cant remember exactly what it was. i agree on the controll and the greed issue. america needs to put its backing back into our farmers and let us grow our own food again, instead of getting our main foods from places like china. im all for helping underdevoloped countries in the econimic depts, but we need to take care of our country first. all these farmes who were 'run' into the ground( to coin a phrase) was the worst thing that our country has done. we have become a country who relies on other countries, instead of the country who relies on itself. we were a most self-sufficient country and now its gone to @#$% in a hand basket when it comes to taking care of our own. i think our fore fathers would roll over in their graves if they saw how our country is today. i believe they would probable go back across the big pond, do to the fact that everything that america was built upon has litterly gone down the toilet.

. paul harvey, now you know the rest of the story!

Taylor · 12-20-2007, 03:54 PM

The FlavrSavr Tomato

Info....

bencelest · 12-20-2007, 05:24 PM

Very well said Mskitty.
Even when the US car makers were overtaken badly by the Japanese car makers and the sale of the US cars were plumeting downwards, what did the ICOs and the executives did? Nothing. But they were collecting megabucks in terms of bonuses each year.
What happened to the coined phrase "The American Way?"

bigdog · 12-20-2007, 06:06 PM

Although transgenic wheat does exist in labs and in trial areas, no transgenic wheat has ever been grown commercially, and you have never eaten any genetically-altered wheat. This could change in the next decade, but the resistance among wheat farmers is pretty strong here in North America. Monsanto decided against it several years ago based on farners' resistance.

As mentioned, you almost have no way around eating something that has been genetically modified, whether it be corn, soybeans, or tomatoes. And you probably survived it with no ill effects at all! People are scared of things they don't know much about, and reasonably so. Technology is changing so quickly every day with biotechnology. The trouble with this field right now is that there isn't any regulation outside of the USDA scientists. So large corporations don't have any standards that they must meet (but USDA scientists DO). I want to believe that these corporations are being responsible and doing the necessary testing before introducing new plants, but you never know. Then again, there are not any transgenic plants currently grown that have ever been shown to be unsafe to people.

Sodak · 12-20-2007, 07:58 PM

Soooo... How 'bout them bananas?

Tropicallvr · 12-20-2007, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aroidgrower

I have been looking in genetic modification of plants and animals for sometime. I seems like a very interesting new science and some of the results seem more scifi than real. A few years back a fire fly gene was put in a orchid and the plant now glows in the dark. I have heard it is being mass produced but I hear it's about 2,000.00 a plant yet I have not seen one offered at this price personally.
I have a friend who works in this field and I also recently found a website that aparently will do this work for a price. Both my friend and the company said they would be willing to do the work which could take 1 to 2 years and cost would be higher than I am willing to pay.
I thought that people here would be interested to know that the reality of a glowing banana is out their. The plants probably best to use Ae Ae or the lime form of Siam Ruby. I have also seen were new animals genes are being use. The bioluminescent genes were once just yellow lime green color they now have blue orange and red. I believe their is some work to make the brighter as well. Now a glow in the dark banana sounds interesting as a novelty to me but the potential for adding hardy genese disease tollerant and other useful genes are being worked with as well.
This science looks to produce a lot of useful and interesting products and organisims but the downside to this work can but very dangerous. The glowing gene which is aparently harmless seems more novel than any of the other work I have read about. Some thinks like producing grass that is roundup tollerant were you can spray you whole yard with roundup and the grass will survive. The problem here was the grass was being grown and pollenated with similar weedy grasses producing super weeds which are tollerant of roundup. Other creations are now being shown in the guinness book of records they have a whole section for the first genetically modified plants and animals in it was the first glow in the dark rabbit, cat , pics and mice also being used are florecent genes but these only glow under the florecent or black lights.
Well hope maybe in years to come we will see some of these crazy creations I am thinking the price for the work now would be around 70 to 150 thousand dollars. Anyone interseted LOL.

Thanks for posting this glowing/hot topic. I'm not sure if I'd want one, but if anyones seen those tiny floceflorecents in the ocean they will never forget it. They are amazing when they are in the waves that are breaking on the beach. I think they showed kinda what they look like in the movie "The beach" with Leonardo Decapreo.
I googled genetically modified bananas and came up with an article that said that bananas are going to die out if not DNA modified. Is this correct?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...UGF75VU791.DTL

momoese · 12-20-2007, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tropicallvr

I googled genetically modified bananas and came up with an article that said that bananas are going to die out if not DNA modified. Is this correct?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...UGF75VU791.DTL

Sounds like BS to me. I know there are at least two camps that are trying to come up with the next commercially viable banana.

momoese · 12-20-2007, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog

there are not any transgenic plants currently grown that have ever been shown to be unsafe to people.

Everything is tested on rats first.

The very first crop submitted to the FDA's voluntary consultation
process, the FlavrSavr tomato, showed evidence of toxins. Out of 20
female rats fed the GM tomato, 7 developed stomach lesions.[4] The
director of FDA's Office of Special Research Skills wrote that the
tomatoes did not demonstrate a "reasonable certainty of no harm,"[5]
which is their normal standard of safety. The Additives Evaluation
Branch agreed that "unresolved questions still remain."[6] The
political appointees, however, did not require that the tomato be
withdrawn.[*]

According to Arpad Pusztai, PhD, one of the world's leading experts
in GM food safety assessments, the type of stomach lesions linked to
the tomatoes "could lead to life-endangering hemorrhage, particularly
in the elderly who use aspirin to prevent [blood clots]."[7] Pusztai
believes that the digestive tract should be the first target of GM
food risk assessment, because the gut is the first (and largest) point
of contact with the foods; it can reveal various reactions to toxins.
He was upset, however, that the research on the FlavrSavr never looked
passed the stomach to the intestines. Other studies that did look
found problems.

momoese · 12-20-2007, 10:34 PM

http://www.mindfully.org/GE/2005/Mod...ats10oct05.htm

There seems to be a lot of scientific info in regards to GMO's being unsafe but the USDA doesn't seem too concerned. Go figure!

Caveat emptor!

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