Coffee Grounds? - Page 3

PR-Giants · 08-03-2012, 12:32 PM

Brady, I am also here for similar reasons.

When I earlier wrote "USA" I was merely refering to that in our first year of school before Thanksgiving, we are taught that the Pilgrims needed the assistance of the Native Americans to amend the soil.

There are many examples of organics being successfully used to benefit a plant before they are fully composted.
I am a simple farmer with only 15 years of experience growing bananas. In the past few years I have had 3 commercial farms come into my sector and all 3 have since closed because of low yields.

Main methods of growing bananas, listed by least amount of labor needed

add nothing

add chemical fertilizers

add non-composted organics

add composted organics

Chemical fertilizers are used commercially mainly because it requires less labor, while still producing an acceptable yield.

I prefer to use non-composted grass because
Banana roots actually thrive in 100% non-composted organics'
It retains more moisture, thus providing the plant with a constant water source and water is a main key in growing bananas.
It supplies more than enough nitrogen and all other necessary nutrients for the entire life cycle of the plant, a constant time release of nutrients.

And please, Olaf, keep anti-American sentiments out of this forum.
For many of us living outside of your shores the letters USA represents a very positive symbol.

TNAndy · 08-04-2012, 08:10 AM

A couple of years ago I saw a Cordyline in flower at a garden center in Florida. I had never before seen one in bloom, so I asked the greenhouse owner what she had done. She said she poured her cold, leftover coffee on it. When I returned home, I started putting my leftover coffee on my Hawaiian Ti plants. This past winter, they bloomed.

I have no idea whether cold coffee would be beneficial for banana plants or whether it would encourage flowering, but it seems to work on Ti.

Darkman · 08-05-2012, 08:50 AM

Ahhh....the benefits of stimulating Caffeine.

Actually I have no idea but it sounds good as I'm sitting here drinking my Southern Pecan Coffee.

Can someone explain why I can't find a Banana drinking Coffee

Snookie · 08-05-2012, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkman

Ahhh...

Can someone explain why I can't find a Banana drinking Coffee

Shizzzahm...

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Darkman · 08-05-2012, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snookie

Shizzzahm...

Gourmet Coffee, Coffee Club, Home Delivery, Gifts - BocaJava.com

Sorry Mayor,

I meant an emotiocon of a "Banana drinking a cup of Coffee".

Jose263 · 08-05-2012, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TNAndy

A couple of years ago I saw a Cordyline in flower at a garden center in Florida. I had never before seen one in bloom, so I asked the greenhouse owner what she had done. She said she poured her cold, leftover coffee on it. When I returned home, I started putting my leftover coffee on my Hawaiian Ti plants. This past winter, they bloomed.

I have no idea whether cold coffee would be beneficial for banana plants or whether it would encourage flowering, but it seems to work on Ti.

Interesting observation - Think I'll start adding my leftover coffee - what benefits come from the cream and sugar?

Actually, left over coffee in the pot sounds like a form of compost tea... Speaking of tea, does anyone also compost tea leaves or use them on plants?

G.W. · 08-05-2012, 10:12 PM

Why are people SO obsessed with composters?
IGNORANCE
Do you REALLY think your plastic drum works better at making nature than NATURE? Seriously?

Funny story.
I ran over a toad the other night on my motorcycle.
You see I turn on the bug light at night and a herd of toads congregate to eat all the bugs. Then the toads poop on the lawn. I figure it adds about 2 pounds of N per year. EXPENSIVE N I know, but have you ever watched a fist sized toad try swallowing a half zapped rhino beetle? Has to be worth $1.

So I was coming around the yard and I hit this big toad with the front tire.
I felt bad since they're sort of like pets, my minions I call them.

So the next day I was doing an aphid check and noticed the toad moving.
There was a bug digging under him like this one Field Biology in Southeastern Ohio: The American Burying Beetle Project
It buried the whole damn toad the size of a plum !!!

I was ignorant or burying beetles until I wrote this post.
Now I'm going to feed them extra tree rats.

Darkman · 08-06-2012, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.W.

Why are people SO obsessed with composters?
IGNORANCE
Do you REALLY think your plastic drum works better at making nature than NATURE? Seriously?

Not better

But

Faster

And it is easier!

PR-Giants · 12-07-2012, 05:24 PM

I was curious if a banana would grow in 100 % Puerto Rican Coffee Grounds.

I planted one piece of corm in coffee and another in soil.

A banana will grow in CG but not very well, it seems the banana grows faster than the time it takes for the CG to break down.

Grass on the other hand, breaks down quickly and is available before the banana plant needs to use it.

I posted the photo for anyone else that might have also been curious.

100 % Coffee Grounds in the pot on the right.

Olafhenny · 12-07-2012, 11:35 PM

Bananas are among the most nutritious fruits on the planet. But if you ate nothing but bananas
you would not "grow" very well either. Your experiment, while interesting, says nothing against
using coffee grounds as fertilizer or as "nutritional supplement"

Jose263 · 12-08-2012, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olafhenny

Bananas are among the most nutritious fruits on the planet. But if you ate nothing but bananas
you would not "grow" very well either. Your experiment, while interesting, says nothing against
using coffee grounds as fertilizer or as "nutritional supplement"

Coffee grinds as fertilizer? - Yahoo! Answers
apparently Tea leaves/grounds have similar benefits.
Google and learn.....
Happy holidays everyone

PR-Giants · 12-08-2012, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olafhenny

Bananas are among the most nutritious fruits on the planet. But if you ate nothing but bananas
you would not "grow" very well either. Your experiment, while interesting, says nothing against
using coffee grounds as fertilizer or as "nutritional supplement"

I am a little confused by your assumption,

Some whales and fish mainly eat phytoplankton,

carnivorous animals mainly eat meat,

and grazing animals mainly eat grass.

Back to coffee grounds,

I am only a simple farmer and mainly judge the usefulness of organics by how

it effects the plant crop, not the first, second or third ratoon crops.

The experiment was done to see if there was a positive effect for the plant

crop, and I always assumed the ratoon crops would benefit.

Grass cuttings are highly beneficial to the plant crop as well as the ratoon

crops, and can be used as the sole source of nutrients.

By using 100 % of a single organic, the effect is more clearly seen.

edzone9 · 12-08-2012, 10:07 AM

I Started An AVACADO Tree about 1 year 9 month ago , used nothing but coffee grounds to fertilize .

Its about 7ft Tall Today , its the Healthiest Tree In My Garden Today .
We Had afew nights of 32f Weather & The Tree Is Solid.

PR-Giants · 12-08-2012, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edzone9

I Started An AVACADO Tree about 1 year 9 month ago , used nothing but coffee grounds to fertilize .

Its about 7ft Tall Today , its the Healthiest Tree In My Garden Today .
We Had afew nights of 32f Weather & The Tree Is Solid.

That is very interesting that an avocado would grow well in 100 % coffee grounds.

Were the leaves dark or light green ?

Jose263 · 12-08-2012, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edzone9

I Started An AVACADO Tree about 1 year 9 month ago , used nothing but coffee grounds to fertilize .

Its about 7ft Tall Today , its the Healthiest Tree In My Garden Today .
We Had afew nights of 32f Weather & The Tree Is Solid.

Please tell more - where did the avacado come from (seed or smaller plant) was coffee grounds the total soil or just the fert?

edzone9 · 12-08-2012, 11:21 AM

It's the 1st thing that i ever planted , i bought an avacado at my local NYC Bodega ( Store ) , it was a Huge One , Dont Know the type .

Did Some Re-search On The Net , Removed the Avacado Seed , Stuck 2 toothpicks at the sides, put it in a glass cup with the seed half way in the water .

Afew weeks later it sprouted .
Once 1 leaf sprouted , i went and planted it in a small pot with good potting soil .

Im a coffee drinkler , so everytime my wife made coffee , we saved the Grounds in the fridge , & Every Month a added a Tablespoon To The soil & watered It In .

I relocated To Fl , Planted The Avacado Tree in my Yard & Now Its about 7ft tall very Healthy !

I continue to fertilize with coffee grounds only .
So Dont Throw away Those Coffe Grounds They Are Great Fertilizer !

Good Luck !

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Jose263 · 12-08-2012, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edzone9

It's the 1st thing that i ever planted , i bought an avacado at my local NYC Bodega ( Store ) , it was a Huge One , Dont Know the type .
Did Some Re-search On The Net , Removed the Avacado Seed , Stuck 2 toothpicks at the sides, put it in a glass cup with the seed half way in the water .
Afew weeks later it sprouted .
Once 1 leaf sprouted , i went and planted it in a small pot with good potting soil . Im a coffee drinkler , so everytime my wife made coffee , we saved the Grounds in the fridge , & Every Month a added a Tablespoon To The soil & watered It In .
I relocated To Fl , Planted The Avacado Tree in my Yard & Now Its about 7ft tall very Healthy !
I continue to fertilize with coffee grounds only .
So Dont Throw away Those Coffe Grounds They Are Great Fertilizer !

Good Luck !

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Really neat - Great success story

I've never had much success growing from seed -what type was it before you ate the flesh? BTW you may need to graft a good variety to the root stock if you want quality fruit. Also, Avacados are of several types - i believe A and B refers to time of day the flowers become male or female- so they generally don't pollinate themselves.
As long as you are grafting -make sure you use both A & B graftwood - there are much more experienced folks and discussions on the forum re: grafting
good Luck

edzone9 · 12-08-2012, 11:49 AM

Thank You Jose, I wont risk the chance of lossing this tree to grafting

This tree i will let nature take its course .

this summer i was in miami , by the Tree farms , Stopped By an old ladies house , where she had a wheel barrell in front of her home loaded with avacados for sale .

I stopped bought afew , they tasted buttery & Great !
She stated that she planted a avacado seed about 4 years ago & the tree produces a boat load of avacados.

So Much that she has to sell them street side .
I hope my tree has the same results , if not i will buy a grafted Avacado tree for fruit .

Thanks gain ed..

Olafhenny · 12-08-2012, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edzone9

I Started An AVACADO Tree about 1 year 9 month ago , used nothing but coffee grounds to fertilize .

Its about 7ft Tall Today , its the Healthiest Tree In My Garden Today .
We Had afew nights of 32f Weather & The Tree Is Solid.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants

That is very interesting that an avocado would grow well in 100 % coffee grounds.

Were the leaves dark or light green ?

PR, read Endzon9's post again. He did not say, that he grew the avocado in 100% coffee grounds,
but the coffee grounds were the only fertilizer he used. Obviously there was some soil involved,
which contained the minerals the plant needed.

edzone9 · 12-08-2012, 11:59 AM

Again I Only Used Coffee Grounds On Avacado as Fertilizer Only , Avacado Seem To Like The Coffee Grounds & Respond well to it .

I Have Not Tried The Same With Bananas,,,

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