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First of all, welcome to bananas.org.
I have copied and pasted a link to another thread were the cold hardiness of many banana plants has been discussed. If you scroll down a bit, there is a list posted by Richard that refers to the cold hardiness of edible bananas, covering most if not all the varieties you have listed.
Where are you located? Take a moment and introduce yourself in the introductory section.

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The list is pretty accurate.......
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Thank You for the response. I will review the list, and find the intro section.
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I have copied and pasted a link to another thread were the cold hardiness of many banana plants has been discussed. If you scroll down a bit, there is a list posted by Richard that refers to the cold hardiness of edible bananas, covering most if not all the varieties you have listed.
Where are you located? Take a moment and introduce yourself in the introductory section.

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I am from the Tampa Bay area.
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Brazilian

Goldfinger FHIA1

Icecream

Misi Luki

Namwa Dwf

From you list, these are pretty cold tolerant.

Also tolerant are:

Praying Hands

Fhia-18

Thousand Fingers

Pisang Klotek

Belle

Orinocco

Haven't found a cold tolerant red variety, or dwarf variety other than Namwah. The reds and dwarfs seem to need a minimum temp of about 55F 24 hours a day or their vigor is greatly diminished.
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It got 40 deg here a few weeks ago, my Hua Moa and Kru didn't look happy, and my Siam Ruby imo got a little damage
I reviewed the long list and found most except Siam Ruby, Truly Tiny, Viente Cohol, and Plantain Dwf (maybe it has a different name?)
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I do not have AeAe, Pitogo, Popolou and Kofi on my list yet, still looking!
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Goldfinger FHIA1

Icecream

Misi Luki

Namwa Dwf

From you list, these are pretty cold tolerant.

Also tolerant are:

Praying Hands

Fhia-18

Thousand Fingers

Pisang Klotek

Belle

Orinocco

Haven't found a cold tolerant red variety, or dwarf variety other than Namwah. The reds and dwarfs seem to need a minimum temp of about 55F 24 hours a day or their vigor is greatly diminished.
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It got 40 deg here a few weeks ago, my Hua Moa and Kru didn't look happy, and my Siam Ruby imo got a little damage
I reviewed the long list and found most except Siam Ruby, Truly Tiny, Viente Cohol, and Plantain Dwf (maybe it has a different name?)
First three in your list stop growing at 70 degrees in my zone 6.
My plants are in containers and maintained.
However the plants will tolerate to 35 degrees for a time.

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I do not have AeAe, Pitogo, Popolou and Kofi on my list yet, still looking!
Aeae will thrive in outside tropical temps of 80 and above......stops growing in my zone 5/6 at 70 degrees and below and will overwinter under lights @ 65 degrees.will pup all year long.

Many growers in your area..

The other plants I cannot comment on......but conditions are similar
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I live right inside polk county in the tampa bay area.
Ive had 3 frost in my area so far this year, and only have a few burnt leaves.
All of my bananas are still in full swing fruiting.
I only grow what will survive here.
Heres a list of cold tolerant varieties that will survive right down to, and past 32 degrees with stalks still alive. And they'll starting growing again with the warm time in between cold fronts. So they bounce back from the cold really well. Not all varieties that can take the cold will still grow well with the temp swings.

These ones still grow well with low temps.
Orinoco-fruiting right now
Raja puri-fruiting right now
Nam wah-fruiting right now
Patupi-fruiting right now
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these ones can take the cold but they tend to stop growing until they have consistant warm temps.
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I live right inside polk county in the tampa bay area.
Ive had 3 frost in my area so far this year, and only have a few burnt leaves.
All of my bananas are still in full swing fruiting.
I only grow what will survive here.
Heres a list of cold tolerant varieties that will survive right down to, and past 32 degrees with stalks still alive. And they'll starting growing again with the warm time in between cold fronts. So they bounce back from the cold really well. Not all varieties that can take the cold will still grow well with the temp swings.

These ones still grow well with low temps.
Orinoco-fruiting right now
Raja puri-fruiting right now
Nam wah-fruiting right now
Patupi-fruiting right now
Goldfinger
Pitogo
Mysore
1000 fingers

these ones can take the cold but they tend to stop growing until they have consistant warm temps.
Red
Veinte cohol
"True" Ice cream
Gros micheal
I am in Gibsonton, on the river (hoping that helps keep it warmer) I am new to forums and trying to figure it out how to post pics. Thanks
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At top of the forum page, you will find the forum Wiki with a lot of info on different Banana varieties and some growing notes by forum members.
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My view, living in Dallas TX is that nothing, absolutely nothing beats Dwarf Namwah for cold hardiness. At least for edible banana plants. Number 2 is Orinoco and followed by Brazilian. Tried another 10 varieties and at best it is a crap shoot....

Maybe it is different in warmer zones, this is 8 and this year we have had a few really cold days down to 14F... I planted some Gardenias this year and they sure don't look good.

Last winter was fantastic here, plants that normally loose their leaves like Mexican fan palm stayed green all winter!
Oh, how i miss last years winter!
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Here in central east Florida we have had a couple cool nights, one in particular was supposed to be low 40's but may have been lower because 3 plants had some leaf burn and all 3 were relatively newly planted. One was planted in mid August and the other two in late October. All have been growing vigorously between cold snaps including my cold "wimps" like GM, VC, and Cav. Both of my well established Namwah stopped growing for some reason a while back, maybe after a cool night, and one has begun growing again a couple weeks ago and the other still hasn't made a leaf in about 6 weeks or so. I don't know why.
I am more concerned about my bananas turning black right now. I started a thread, but nobody has any guesses.
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Varieties I supposedly bought: Manzano, Cavendish, Blue Java, Sweetheart, and Gros Michel.
What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.
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Knowing the genetic makeup (ancestry) of a cultivar can usually give you a pretty good idea of how tolerant of cold it is likely to be, but there are exceptions.

Almost all edible varieties, and all the ones that have been mentioned above, are derived from Musa acuminata ("A" genome) or Musa balbisiana ("B" genome). Because M. acuminata is strictly a tropical species (i.e., its ancestral range), whereas M. balbisiana's natural range is tropical and subtropic, cultivars that are entirely derived from M. acuminata are generally less tolerant of cool or dry conditions than those that have some M. balbisiana genes.

For example, Pisang Awak cultivars (e.g., Dwarf Namwah, "American Misi Luki") and Bluggoe cultivars (e.g., Orinoco, Dwarf Orinoco) have ABB genomes and they are among the most cool tolerant; whereas Cavendish and Reds, which both have AAA genomes are among the least tolerant of cool climates.

Of course there exceptions to this general rule, and the AAB group has good examples of that. For example, Pome subgroup cultivars (e.g., Brazilian, Dwarf Brazilian, Rajapuri) and Mysore cultivars (Mysore, Pisang Ceylan/Klotek) are pretty tolerant of cool conditions, whereas plantains and some other AAB cultivars are not.
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