So am I hosed?

wheelman1976 · 03-31-2014, 09:37 PM

Pulled the cone off one of my basjoos this evening and found this.

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Yes, that is ice that you are seeing. Basically it appears that the entire stem froze and was blown apart. Doesn't seem that the 1 inch thick styrofoam box did me any good. Dug down to the point where the stem separated from the corm. Corm feels somewhat hard, but i think the ground around me may be somewhat froze yet. Long story short, we had one of the worst winters ever where we froze in december and how now just thawed the end of March. I haven't pulled the boxes off any of my others, but just curious if we freeze that deep into the ground for such a prolonged time, will any basjoo survive?

r3tic · 04-01-2014, 04:22 PM

It depends on how well the plant was established. I live in zone 6b/7a and I do not protect my basjoos over the winter. They are growing in a less than ideal heavy soil. They do tend to send up pups later than most spring growth. I get a p-stem growth of about 8ft every year from pups. Sit back and enjoy the show. You will be amazed how hardy these plants are.

wheelman1976 · 04-01-2014, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by r3tic

It depends on how well the plant was established. I live in zone 6b/7a and I do not protect my basjoos over the winter. They are growing in a less than ideal heavy soil. They do tend to send up pups later than most spring growth. I get a p-stem growth of about 8ft every year from pups. Sit back and enjoy the show. You will be amazed how hardy these plants are.

They were only in the ground one year. Some were a couple feet tall, and a couple of them were about 6 foot tall with pumps when I cut them down and put the cones over them.

I guess my question is if the ground freezes solid a few feet deep, what effect does that have on the corm?

Abnshrek · 04-01-2014, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wheelman1976

They were only in the ground one year. Some were a couple feet tall, and a couple of them were about 6 foot tall with pumps when I cut them down and put the cones over them.

I guess my question is if the ground freezes solid a few feet deep, what effect does that have on the corm?

If it comes back up does it really matter? I had Namwah's come up down here, it may have took a while but they came back up w/o any protection, and down to 13F I couldn't complain.. :^)

wheelman1976 · 04-01-2014, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Abnshrek

If it comes back up does it really matter? I had Namwah's come up down here, it may have took a while but they came back up w/o any protection, and down to 13F I couldn't complain.. :^)

Guess it doesn't really matter, just wondering what to expect. I haven't opened up the remaining cones and figure I'll find the same things.

Abnshrek · 04-01-2014, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wheelman1976

Guess it doesn't really matter, just wondering what to expect. I haven't opened up the remaining cones and figure I'll find the same things.

They will most likely send up a pup when its time if all is well.. My pup probably didn't come up on the Namwah until mid June down here.. Its a waiting game, just be patient.. I have to do that w/ my Orinoco here in Ark. 9F doesn't do much good.. All in due time its going to be all good.. :^)

Funkthulhu · 04-02-2014, 10:06 AM

We hit -25F this winter, I'm not holding out for any miracles.

However, considering the wall work to be done nearby, I will not be replanting anything in that area this year. So, anything that does come up would be welcome.

Hammocked Banana · 04-02-2014, 11:42 AM

That stem is definitely hosed but will probably throw up pups. Did u burry it deep? How deep of mulch?

scottu · 04-02-2014, 08:01 PM

I still see green so I would be hopeful!

cincinnana · 04-02-2014, 09:56 PM

No. not hosed. We are good.
If the daffodils come up so shall the basjoos.

However fingers crossed for success.

Prepping basjoo for winter

bengal tiger nanas · 04-03-2014, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cincinnana

No. not hosed. We are good.
If the daffodils come up so shall the basjoos.

However fingers crossed for success.

Prepping basjoo for winter

glad to hear that,i was worried about lhe long cold spell.our daffodils are up. thanks don

lmswayne · 04-03-2014, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wheelman1976

Pulled the cone off one of my basjoos this evening and found this.

Yes, that is ice that you are seeing. Basically it appears that the entire stem froze and was blown apart. Doesn't seem that the 1 inch thick styrofoam box did me any good. Dug down to the point where the stem separated from the corm. Corm feels somewhat hard, but i think the ground around me may be somewhat froze yet. Long story short, we had one of the worst winters ever where we froze in december and how now just thawed the end of March. I haven't pulled the boxes off any of my others, but just curious if we freeze that deep into the ground for such a prolonged time, will any basjoo survive?

that is what most of mine look like with out the ice

wheelman1976 · 04-03-2014, 02:34 PM

I had 4-6 inches of mulch built up around the pstem before I stuffed a piece of insulation batting in and covered with a 1 inch thick styrofoam box I made for them this year.

cincinnana · 04-03-2014, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wheelman1976

I had 4-6 inches of mulch built up around the pstem before I stuffed a piece of insulation batting in and covered with a 1 inch thick styrofoam box I made for them this year.

Are you able to remember how deep you planted them?
From your description it sounds like your ok....I bet ya the styrofoam helped a lot with the cold

If you can lift your soil and corm to look at it and take a pic for us would be awesome......the corm is dormant and it will not impact its health.

wheelman1976 · 04-03-2014, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cincinnana

Are you able to remember how deep you planted them?
From your description it sounds like your ok....I bet ya the styrofoam helped a lot with the cold

If you can lift your soil and corm to look at it and take a pic for us would be awesome......the corm is dormant and it will not impact its health.

A bunch of the ones I left in the ground started out as little 6 inch plants last spring so I didn't put them down very deep. I tried to mound as much mulch up on them as I could.

If I get a chance to go play outside I'll dig one up and see what's going on.

blownz281 · 04-05-2014, 09:17 AM

Dude you will be fine my basjoos lived for years in zone 4 Ohio and I never did anything to protect them.

Funkthulhu · 04-07-2014, 03:16 PM

Ugh, I uncovered the horror this weekend. Still some green in that goo, but nothing solid that I could feel by probing. I hold no hope for recovery but at least all their sisters are potted up in the basement. So not all is lost.

wheelman1976 · 04-08-2014, 05:22 PM

So at what point am I good to pull these cones off? When lows are no longer freezing? Is that the rule of thumb?

Hammocked Banana · 04-08-2014, 05:49 PM

If u use rose cones I would just take them off on any warm day. They are super easy to just cover back up on any night that gets below freezing. U can store the cones for the summee once nights are going to be above 40F.

03-31-2014, 09:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
wheelman1976 Zone: 6 Name: Doug Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 129 BananaBucks : 51,936 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 92 Times in 60 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2 Times	So am I hosed? Pulled the cone off one of my basjoos this evening and found this. Yes, that is ice that you are seeing. Basically it appears that the entire stem froze and was blown apart. Doesn't seem that the 1 inch thick styrofoam box did me any good. Dug down to the point where the stem separated from the corm. Corm feels somewhat hard, but i think the ground around me may be somewhat froze yet. Long story short, we had one of the worst winters ever where we froze in december and how now just thawed the end of March. I haven't pulled the boxes off any of my others, but just curious if we freeze that deep into the ground for such a prolonged time, will any basjoo survive?

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