The cold hardy list - Page 7

Tytaylor77 · 06-08-2017, 02:39 AM

Mine shoots 80% white every leaf! Send some of that green my way! Haha. What are you gonna replace the Williams with? Sweetheart! Praying Hands!

I have a few Saba pups lmao. AEAE looks great!

meizzwang · 06-08-2017, 12:33 PM

Thanks Ty! Yeah, when I first bought this aeae clone, it was heavily variegated, but after adding an ton of P&K to the soil just before the cold set in (I think it had a lot of Calcium in it), the leaves turned solid green with no variegation.

SH-3640 is going to replace Williams, but I'm optimistically cautious about this clone because based on the way it's "behaving" so far (ie. taking more than a month from a healthy, strong sword pup with roots to form its first leaf), it might not be as cold hardy as many of the other cultivars. The varieties that require higher temps to grow normally tend to be less cold hardy from my experience, but that's very limited and you never know.

Anyone else have feedback regarding SH-3640's cold tolerance?

sputinc7 · 06-08-2017, 12:51 PM

Mine held nice green leaves as well as Brazilian last winter, uncovered in a couple low 30's frosts. Kept growing through the winter. Sigatoka must be dealt with, though. Neem oil is helpful for that.
I remember it took about a month to get going when I planted mine. I remember worrying something was wrong. It was a 3 foot pup with lots of roots and freshly dug just a couple hours before, from Worm Farmer. (Anyone heard from him recently?)

FusionGalaxy · 07-16-2017, 04:08 PM

Is the Musa Blue Java considered cold Hardy as well?

luisport · 07-16-2017, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FusionGalaxy

Is the Musa Blue Java considered cold Hardy as well?

For me it is. It survived last winter coldest lows i got and regrowth from the ground.

Tytaylor77 · 07-18-2017, 08:34 AM

Mine also! I find the real blue java is more cold hardy than namwas. Namwa is a way faster grower though. Blue java also takes longer to flower for me. It will take another year to verify this.

meizzwang · 08-29-2017, 04:33 PM

After almost a year of only producing mostly green leaves, this Aeae is finally producing its first leaf filled with beautiful variegation! We had a heatwave recently, which caused some of the white pigments to overheat and burn. This plant isn't the most cold hardy, so it'll be interesting to see if we can get it to fruit up here in Northern California. I'm not aware of anyone successfully getting Aeae to produce mature bananas this far North. Photo taken 8/29/17:

Richard · 08-29-2017, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by meizzwang

... This plant isn't the most cold hardy, so it'll be interesting to see if we can get it to fruit up here in Northern California.
...

If you are truly in cold hardiness zone 9b it should not be a problem. What community are you located in?

NZBanana · 04-26-2018, 09:58 PM

Nice list thanks guys

luar1976 · 09-17-2019, 01:55 AM

Which varieties of bananas grow above 7 meters, 23 feets and resist zone 8?
Banana trees that produce seeds.

giorgosgr · 03-22-2020, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by lkstapleton

I also see that Thousand Fingers is very cold hardy, according to this list, and I've seen other lists that say the same thing. Has anyone actually fruited one? It looks amazing, with that huge banana stalk hanging down, in all the pictures I've seen.

Lisa

Does anyone know how long does 1000 fingers take from flower to fruit in mediterenian climate?

GStone · 07-10-2021, 09:27 PM

Can someone tell me the source of this list? I'd like to share it, but I want to give credit. Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard

Here is a list of Edible Bananas sorted by estimated USDA Cold-hardiness Zone. Your mileage may vary:

Name USDA_Hardiness_Estimate
Texas Star 7.0
Amistad 7.5
Carolina King 7.5
Golden Rhinohorn 7.5
1000 Fingers 8.0
Dwarf Orinoco 8.0
Orinoco 8.0
California Gold 8.5
Cardaba 8.5
Double 8.5
Dwarf Brazilian 8.5
Dwarf Puerto Rican 8.5
Ebun Musak 8.5
French Horn 8.5
Giant Plantain 8.5
Goldfinger 8.5
Gran Nain 8.5
High Color Mini 8.5
Ice Cream 8.5
Kalela 8.5
Lady Finger 8.5
Mahoi 8.5
Mauritius 8.5
Mona Lisa 8.5
Monkey Fingers 8.5
Mysore 8.5
Pisang Ceylon 8.5
Pitogo 8.5
Rajapuri 8.5
Saba 8.5
1780 hybrid 9.0
African Rhino Horn 9.0
Argentino 9.0
Belle 9.0
Brazilian 9.0
Dwarf Cavendish 9.0
Dwarf Namwa 9.0
Dwarf Thai 9.0
FHIA-18 9.0
FHIA-20 9.0
FHIA-21 Plantain 9.0
FHIA-23 9.0
Green Red 9.0
Hua Moa 9.0
Iholena 9.0
Kandrian 9.0
Misi Luki of Samoa 9.0
Pace 9.0
Popoulu kaia 9.0
Red Iholene 9.0
Red Jewel 9.0
Sweetheart 9.0
Tuu Gia 9.0
White Iholena 9.0
Williams Hybrid 9.0
Zan Moreno 9.0
Ae Ae 9.5
Dwarf French 9.5
Ele Ele 9.5
Enano Nautia 9.5
FHIA-17 9.5
Golden Beauty 9.5
Manzano 9.5
Namwa 9.5
Pisang Buai 9.5
Praying Hands 9.5
Sumatrana X Gran Nain 9.5
Super Plantain 9.5
Tall Red 9.5
Valery 9.5
Kaulau 10.0
Kofi 10.0
Pisang Klutuk 10.0
Cavendish (banana) 10.5
Cocos 11.0
Dwarf Gros Michel 11.0
Dwarf Red 11.0
Gros Michel 11.0
Jamaican Red 11.0
Kappa Pazham 11.0
Pisang Tandok 11.0
Rose 11.0
Karat 12.0
Kru 12.0
Latundan 12.0
Nino 12.0
Utafun 12.0

lkstapleton · 08-15-2021, 09:22 PM

My California Gold's first full-sized bananas. Previous ones were only about 4 inches long, probably because they bloomed in November rather than May.Attachment 3677
Lisa

lkstapleton · 08-16-2021, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GStone

Can someone tell me the source of this list? I'd like to share it, but I want to give credit. Thanks!

It looks like one that Joe Real of Northern California posted to the California Rare Fruit Growers site about ten years ago, but I am not positive it is the exact same list.

lkstapleton · 08-16-2021, 02:18 AM

This list looks like one that Joe Real of Northern California posted to the California Rare Fruit Growers site about ten years ago, but I am not positive it is the exact same list.

Polypterus · 08-16-2021, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GStone

Can someone tell me the source of this list? I'd like to share it, but I want to give credit. Thanks!

Does anyone have recommendations for dessert bananas that will grow in 8a? I was looking at that list, but it seems like a few of the varieties on it may not actually exist, and the list itself may be outdated.

cincinnana · 08-17-2021, 06:46 PM

While some name changes have happened......this list is still very accurate.
The popular plants that are listed are available and easily obtainable on the web .
You might be limited with your choices for your zone.
Do you have a preference of a plant?

Not much has changed....however if you have a special request ......share it with us ....one of the fellas might have one for you..
Good luck with your desert choice

Polypterus · 08-19-2021, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cincinnana

While some name changes have happened......this list is still very accurate.
The popular plants that are listed are available and easily obtainable on the web .
You might be limited with your choices for your zone.
Do you have a preference of a plant?

Not much has changed....however if you have a special request ......share it with us ....one of the fellas might have one for you..
Good luck with your desert choice

1000 Finger, Ice Cream, Lady Fingers, and dwarf Namwah all peak my interest, but I think based off the list, I'd be best off trying 1000 Finger, or maybe ice cream. The only issue is finding someone selling 1000 finger for a reasonable price...

cincinnana · 08-20-2021, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polypterus

1000 Finger, Ice Cream, Lady Fingers, and dwarf Namwah all peak my interest, but I think based off the list, I'd be best off trying 1000 Finger, or maybe ice cream. The only issue is finding someone selling 1000 finger for a reasonable price...

Are you growing your plants in your side yard or in a greenhouse ....
Your location limits you.

Polypterus · 08-20-2021, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cincinnana

Are you growing your plants in your side yard or in a greenhouse ....
Your location limits you.

Ideally on the south side of the house. Despite being in zone 8a, we rarely see temperatures below 20 degrees. Our low for the last two or three years was 21. I'm hoping to be able to keep it out side for most years with adequate protection, and then take it inside if it gets much colder than that.

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Tytaylor77 Banana Plants for Trade Location: East Texas Find me on the map! Zone: 8b Name: Ty Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,367 BananaBucks : 47,953 Feedback: 11 / 100% Said "Thanks" 4,612 Times Was Thanked 3,726 Times in 1,185 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 424 Times	Re: The cold hardy list Mine shoots 80% white every leaf! Send some of that green my way! Haha. What are you gonna replace the Williams with? Sweetheart! Praying Hands! I have a few Saba pups lmao. AEAE looks great! __________________ 150+ Varieties!!. See profile for list. Help me add more! CLICK HERE TO SEE PICTURES OF MY MUSA COLLECTION! www.bananapups.com

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meizzwang Zone: 9b Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 235 BananaBucks : 69,742 Feedback: 4 / 100% Said "Thanks" 647 Times Was Thanked 1,032 Times in 218 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: The cold hardy list Thanks Ty! Yeah, when I first bought this aeae clone, it was heavily variegated, but after adding an ton of P&K to the soil just before the cold set in (I think it had a lot of Calcium in it), the leaves turned solid green with no variegation. SH-3640 is going to replace Williams, but I'm optimistically cautious about this clone because based on the way it's "behaving" so far (ie. taking more than a month from a healthy, strong sword pup with roots to form its first leaf), it might not be as cold hardy as many of the other cultivars. The varieties that require higher temps to grow normally tend to be less cold hardy from my experience, but that's very limited and you never know. Anyone else have feedback regarding SH-3640's cold tolerance?

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sputinc7 Location: Palm Bay, Florida Find me on the map! Zone: 9b Name: Steve Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,394 BananaBucks : 102,386 Feedback: 3 / 100% Said "Thanks" 352 Times Was Thanked 2,430 Times in 971 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 295 Times	Re: The cold hardy list Mine held nice green leaves as well as Brazilian last winter, uncovered in a couple low 30's frosts. Kept growing through the winter. Sigatoka must be dealt with, though. Neem oil is helpful for that. I remember it took about a month to get going when I planted mine. I remember worrying something was wrong. It was a 3 foot pup with lots of roots and freshly dug just a couple hours before, from Worm Farmer. (Anyone heard from him recently?) __________________ If you lose your head and give up, you neither live nor win. https://sputinc7.wixsite.com/covwc Varieties I supposedly bought: Manzano, Cavendish, Blue Java, Sweetheart, and Gros Michel. What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

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meizzwang Zone: 9b Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 235 BananaBucks : 69,742 Feedback: 4 / 100% Said "Thanks" 647 Times Was Thanked 1,032 Times in 218 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: The cold hardy list After almost a year of only producing mostly green leaves, this Aeae is finally producing its first leaf filled with beautiful variegation! We had a heatwave recently, which caused some of the white pigments to overheat and burn. This plant isn't the most cold hardy, so it'll be interesting to see if we can get it to fruit up here in Northern California. I'm not aware of anyone successfully getting Aeae to produce mature bananas this far North. Photo taken 8/29/17:

04-26-2018, 09:58 PM	#129 (permalink)
NZBanana Location: Kapiti Coast, New Zealand Find me on the map! Zone: 10a Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 6 BananaBucks : 1,811 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: The cold hardy list Nice list thanks guys __________________ Find me on the map! LoveMyPlants New Zealand:*** 042420001 / Int +6442420001

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luar1976 Location: Portugal Zone: 9 Join Date: Sep 2019 Posts: 1 BananaBucks : 277 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: The cold hardy list Which varieties of bananas grow above 7 meters, 23 feets and resist zone 8? Banana trees that produce seeds.

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lkstapleton Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 64 BananaBucks : 29,222 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 36 Times Was Thanked 62 Times in 28 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: The cold hardy list My California Gold's first full-sized bananas. Previous ones were only about 4 inches long, probably because they bloomed in November rather than May.Attachment 3677 Lisa __________________

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lkstapleton Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 64 BananaBucks : 29,222 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 36 Times Was Thanked 62 Times in 28 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: The cold hardy list This list looks like one that Joe Real of Northern California posted to the California Rare Fruit Growers site about ten years ago, but I am not positive it is the exact same list. __________________

08-17-2021, 06:46 PM	#137 (permalink)
cincinnana container grower Location: Southwest Ohio U.S.A.🇺🇸 Find me on the map! Zone: HZ 6/5 Microclimate - Elevation 750 feet- 228.60 meters Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 8,784 BananaBucks : 1,219 Feedback: 7 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,865 Times Was Thanked 11,708 Times in 4,870 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,943 Times	Re: The cold hardy list While some name changes have happened......this list is still very accurate. The popular plants that are listed are available and easily obtainable on the web . You might be limited with your choices for your zone. Do you have a preference of a plant? Not much has changed....however if you have a special request ......share it with us ....one of the fellas might have one for you.. Good luck with your desert choice __________________ Cincinnana/Hostafarians Photo Gallery 🌴 Last edited by cincinnana : 08-17-2021 at 08:09 PM.

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