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Old 10-15-2021, 02:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Unhappy Please help ID this fruiting banana

I got it years ago from Home Depot. The flower was yellow. The frost kills it, but the roots have survived single digits. I have more pictures, but for some reason it is not letting me upload more at the moment.

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Old 10-15-2021, 07:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Musa basjoo
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Thanks! I read it is edible but seedy and the taste is not for everyone.
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It will not make edible fruit, just for looks!
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Are they poisonous or just not good?
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Are they poisonous or just not good?
Well, kinda neither, but more importantly, you won't be getting fruits at all.

Musa basjoo is a wild species, it requires pollination to make seeded fruits. However, since you presumably only have one plant flowering, as it set out its female flowers it was waiting for pollen that doesn't exist, and thus the fruit cannot develop. You will see that it has transitioned to male flowers which provide pollen and then fall off each day, but by the time these appeared it is too late to self-pollinate (which is on purpose, to encourage outcrossing). So, you are left with little nubs of banana skins essentially, which will not grow into anything remotely useable. It won't even be seeded fruit with a little bit of pulp as would happen if it were to be pollinated, they will just be completely empty, no seeds and no pulp.

Domesticated edible bananas are parthenocarpic and can form pulp-filled seedless fruits without pollination, which is why only one flowering plant is enough to get edible bananas. Unfortunately, Musa basjoo is not that kind of banana, it's a completely non-domesticated wild relative.
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beautiful pic!
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Default Re: Please help ID this fruiting banana

A lot of people in the Mid-Atlantic where I live seem to have these in their yards as a conversation piece. I believe they are for the most part Musa basjoo. I was given a few pups of that type in the spring that lived in pots until earlier this month when I finally got them into the ground. Soon they will die down but should pop back up in the spring. My plan is to sell off the pups (since they seem to be in demand around here) but focus on finding other varieties for fruit.
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Musa basjoo is a wild species, it requires pollination to make seeded fruits. However, since you presumably only have one plant flowering, as it set out its female flowers it was waiting for pollen that doesn't exist, and thus the fruit cannot develop. You will see that it has transitioned to male flowers which provide pollen and then fall off each day, but by the time these appeared it is too late to self-pollinate (which is on purpose, to encourage outcrossing).
Gabe, thanks for the descriptive answer. I have a follow-up question if you have a moment:

Regarding basjoo, or any wild banana for that matter....if one had two flowering identical clones (i.e. two plants originally separated from the same mother as pups), assuming the timing was right, would viable seeds be a possibility? In other words, would genetically identical plants be able to pollinate one another....or be 'self fertile' as it were?
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Gabe, thanks for the descriptive answer. I have a follow-up question if you have a moment:

Regarding basjoo, or any wild banana for that matter....if one had two flowering identical clones (i.e. two plants originally separated from the same mother as pups), assuming the timing was right, would viable seeds be a possibility? In other words, would genetically identical plants be able to pollinate one another....or be 'self fertile' as it were?
It's fine to self/inbreed them, there is no real problem with it for propagation. On some species there is actually a small window of time where you can use the first male flowers to pollinate the last female flowers. There are also a number of species that self-pollinate regularly even in the wild by having hermaphrodite basal flowers.
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Excellent, thank you very much!!
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