Please Help!!!

elgordo · 09-30-2011, 06:36 PM

Hi, everyone. Does anyone know what kind of Musa this is? The nursery I bought it from said it was a basjoo, but I really don't think it is. Is it hardy for the SW B.C. climate?[IMG]

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Gabe15 · 09-30-2011, 06:59 PM

I think it is Musella lasiocarpa, aka Golden Lotus Banana. It is also very hardy.

elgordo · 09-30-2011, 10:29 PM

Thanks, Gabe! I'll google image it and see if they match up.

elgordo · 09-30-2011, 11:41 PM

Yes! It appears that my plant is a lasiocarpa. What sort of protection should I give them here in Greater Vancouver? I think the pseudostem must be a certain height before I can expect blooms.

bananas101 · 10-30-2011, 04:56 PM

Zone 8 here too. It only takes a little cold to cause a mature plant to die out and pup like crazy. I suggest over wintering M. lasiocarpa in a pot indoors. We did this at work 2 years ago and the flower was stunning. I've noticed the pseudostem needs to be very thick and stocky before flowering occurs. Everyone M. lasciorpa that was left in the ground pupped and now we have 50 young plants.

Also, Ive noted that when M lasiocarpa pups frequently, they tend to drain the soil very quickly of nuitrients. LOL I'm lazy and usually add organic material and a slow release fertilizer with micro nutrients.

oakshadows · 10-30-2011, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabe15

I think it is Musella lasiocarpa, aka Golden Lotus Banana. It is also very hardy.

Please expand on the info, not much of a photo to identify it so how was it identified? The more I look the more I want to learn. Thanks

sunfish · 10-30-2011, 08:22 PM

Info:Identifying Bananas - Bananas Wiki

oakshadows · 10-30-2011, 09:15 PM

Have looked and still do not see how it could be identified. Not to contest the expertice of Gabe, he is quite good, but where does one start to see what the plant is?

Gabe15 · 10-30-2011, 09:54 PM

You can tell it is Musella lasiocarpa from a few pieces of info.

Leaf shape: the tips are very pointed and the bases are tapered into the petiole.

Pseudostem: It is rather stout and significantly wider at the base then at the top. The live part of the leaf sheaths are slightly bulbous.

Cold hardiness: This species is also very hardy like M. basjoo, and so is often mixed up with it, but they are very easy to tell apart even when the plants are very young.

oakshadows · 10-31-2011, 07:02 AM

Knowledge and how to use it is beautiful. Thanks

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