Lau

Hi everyone I got three banana's in 2012 and the names washed away so I can not ID the trees. I bought a California Gold, a Grand Nain, and a Williams. Two survived.

Thanks


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shannondicorse

Hi Susan,

Assuming "California Gold" is an ABB of the "Orinoco" group - we can rule that out.

Both of your specimens look like they might be AAA Cavendish group. Both Grand Nain & Williams are Cavendish sports; and both might be difficult to tell apart when young.

Just give them a little time (...and TLC!) and then their differences will show up!


shannon

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Bob3

You have my sympathies; that annoyance still happens over here, too.
(Never trust a "permanent" marker; pencils seem to be the most reliable yet in the long run.)

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venturabananas

Susan, I agree with Shannon. None of those 3 photos show Cali Gold, so the Grand Naine and the Williams must be the two survivors. The only way I know to tell those two apart reliably is by characteristics of the inflorescence, which means you'll have to wait until they've flowered to tell them apart. Williams has a "clean" rachis and Grand Naine has a "messy" rachis.

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Lau

Thanks a lot for all your help. The three little banana's had a hard time last year after I got them. My dogs like the taste of the banana trees also. They are bigger this year and the dogs are older so hopefully next year maybe they will flower. I will show more pictures of the two next year. Thanks everyone for all your help.

Susan

Lau

Progress on the Plants from last year.

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Lau

On the first plant the first leaf starts at about 4 foot. The second Plant almost 2 foot. Maybe they will flower next year.

Lau

Finally after several years 2012 I'm going to figure out what kind of banana I got. I ordered three bananas from GreenEarth back in 2012. I didn't mark them clearly and only two survived. I ordered a California Gold, Chiquita, and a Williams.

Lau

The plant is about 6' tall.

Lau

Very small flower!

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Lau
Congrats finally flowered after 2-3 years?
Thats our rate of growth here in SoCal for tcs...Wowzers!
Grand Nains are supposed to be
fast growers according to that
rate and height chart from PRG.
I guess we will find out real soon.

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GB
Growth rates depends on more than who
can dump the most fertilizer and hormones
on their plant, aeration plays a major role.


This pup was planted in a pot of river sand (a.k.a. clean course sand) and after 14 days it shows good root development. Only water was added as needed, no fertilizer, no growth hormones, no magic. Roots need the proper amount of air & moisture to maximize growth. When these roots reach an area high in organics the above ground growth takes off. .


Now some folks will point to my climate in the tropics as the reason for the quality roots and that 14 days of temps in the 80's is rare in the States or wherever.


Williams pup - April 26, 2013



Williams pup - May 10, 2013

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venturabananas

In Southern California, 2-3 years from TC is good, from my experience and what I've heard and seen from others. In fact, that's what I'd expect from plants started from pups, too. In good conditions (e.g., not too close to other plants). Without a greenhouse, you can't expect tropical rates of growth in our climate. Most varieties grow extremely slowly, if at all, during our winters, especially those with all A genomes like the Cavendish varieties.

Don't expect estimates of time to flower from plants grown in different climates to apply to yours. And don't even expect relative differences among cultivars to apply, because different genes can respond to climates differently. But experiment and tell us which do best for you.

Of course, PR-G makes good points about all the kinds of things that can affect growth. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who gets bananas to fruit faster or make bigger bunches, regardless of climate.

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Lau

Has anyone seen a flower like this? It's kind of small and not very pretty.

Lau

At least the red color on the flower is starting to appear.

Lau

The photo of the Grand Nain flower in the Wiki wasn't very pretty either. The photo of the Williams flower was more colorful.

Other factors for slow growth in my yard could be (my bad dogs, new concrete in the area next to the plants, construction guys boots, water shortage, and lack of consistent fertilizer). I'm just happy I get good fruit and vegetables each year.

Richard

In the tropics.

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Looking better

venturabananas

The couple of cavendish varieties I've fruited always have a slender and unimpressive bud when first emerging, but then make up for it as it develops. Others, like rajapuri, have a massive bud that end up not producing a very large bunch.

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