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merce3
06-04-2014, 07:09 PM
I have a rhino horn that started pupping early in spring and now the pups are about to surpass the mother. Is this normal? In a sense I'm happy because I was able to relocate a fully grown pup, but I'm thinking the original plant might be sick. It still spits out cigars, but ever so slow compared to the other two.
here are some pics:
April 13
http://i.imgur.com/mMuwqKTl.jpg
Today
http://i.imgur.com/kDthX63l.jpg
Transplanted (buried about 2' deep)
http://i.imgur.com/k2BRTXTl.jpg
Any thoughts?
merce3
06-07-2014, 04:02 PM
bump... anyone? i can take better pics if that helps
2woodensticks
06-07-2014, 04:28 PM
it happens to me with orinocos on occasion..using less vigorous sucker pups...just as an experiment I started a small matt of orinocos with a water sucker...grew fine,but the sword pups it produced out grew and flowered before mother..could be you started with less vigorous mother to start..my 2 cents
servatusprime
06-07-2014, 04:37 PM
I don't think its anything to worry about. For me, the second generation has always been more hardy than the first in terms of growth rate, height, and girth. You could always chop down the mother p-stem and just let the second generation take over.
merce3
06-07-2014, 08:07 PM
it happens to me with orinocos on occasion..using less vigorous sucker pups...just as an experiment I started a small matt of orinocos with a water sucker...grew fine,but the sword pups it produced out grew and flowered before mother..could be you started with less vigorous mother to start..my 2 cents
hmm... you might be right. i think it was a weaker pup that i planted.
I don't think its anything to worry about. For me, the second generation has always been more hardy than the first in terms of growth rate, height, and girth. You could always chop down the mother p-stem and just let the second generation take over.
that might be the best option. thanks :08:
PR-Giants
06-08-2014, 08:02 AM
Could be an insect problem.
merce3
06-08-2014, 09:26 AM
Could be an insect problem.
thanks. you grow a lot of bananas including arh... has this been your experience in the past?
i think i will chop it and dissect it. i was hesitant because the last couple of leaves have been larger, but the leaves on the pups are just as big.
PR-Giants
06-08-2014, 09:42 AM
thanks. you grow a lot of bananas including arh... has this been your experience in the past?
i think i will chop it and dissect it. i was hesitant because the last couple of leaves have been larger, but the leaves on the pups are just as big.
There could actually be many reasons, a rainy season with poor drainage could be another.
Before chopping it down, I would remove and inspect a sample of the corm and then decide what to do.
venturabananas
06-08-2014, 11:43 AM
I have a rhino horn that started pupping early in spring and now the pups are about to surpass the mother. Is this normal?
Any thoughts?
It's happened to me a couple of times with mother plants that suffered by being planted at a bad time, in autumn. In spring, the mother was slow to grow, but the pups took off. I'm sure there could be other reasons. In my case, it wasn't really a problem, but the mother plants continued to be slow growers, bloomed at a small size, and didn't make a big bunch.
pitangadiego
06-08-2014, 05:20 PM
Transplanting is stressful. It is quite common for the transplanted plant to be surpassed by the pups, which have not had that stress.
merce3
06-08-2014, 06:26 PM
Thanks a lot guys. I appreciate all the responses.
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