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momoese 11-04-2008 11:53 PM

History was made tonight
 
A half black man will soon be the leader of our country. I guess he can now ride at the front of the bus! :0519:

saltydad 11-05-2008 12:01 AM

Re: History was made tonight
 
"I Didn't Vote for Obama I'm a middle-class white guy living in Jacksonville , Florida I've got a wife and two kids. Because the kids had no school today, I took a vacation day from work, and took the kids downtown to vote early. Fifty-nine minutes later, two smiling children and I proudly sported "I Voted" stickers.
But I didn't vote for Obama.
I voted for my ancestors, who believed in the promise of this country and came with nothing as immigrants.
I voted for my parents, who taught in the public schools for decades.
I voted for Steve, an acquaintance of mine from Kentucky. (Killed by an IED two years ago in Iraq ).
I voted for Shawn, another who's been to Iraq twice, and Afghanistan once, and who'll be going back to Afghanistan again soon -- and whose family earned eleven bucks a month too much to qualify for food stamps when the war started.
I voted for April, the only African-American girl in my high school -- it was years before it occurred to me how different her experience of our school must have been.
I voted for my college friends who are Christian, Jewish, Mormon, and yes -- Muslim.
I voted for my grandfathers, who worked hard in factories and died too young.
I voted for the plumber who worked on my house, because I want him to get a REAL tax break.
I voted for four little angels from Birmingham.
I voted for a bunch of dead white men who, although personally flawed, were willing to pledge their lives, fortunes,
and sacred honor, and used a time of great crisis to expand freedom rather than suspend it.
I voted for all those people and more, and I voted for all of you, too. But mostly, I voted selfishly.
I voted for two little kids, one who has ballet in an hour, and one who has baseball practice at the same time.
I voted for a world where they can be confident that their government will represent the best that is in this country,
and that will in turn demand the best of them.
I voted for a government that will be respected in the world.
I voted for an economy that will reward work above guile.
I voted for everything I believe in.
Sure, I filled in the circle next to the name Obama, but it wasn't him I was voting for -- it was every single one of us, and those I love most of all.
Who else is there to vote for?
Vote like it's about a better America . ....Because it is...."

paradisi 11-05-2008 03:32 AM

Re: History was made tonight
 
if only your country would adopt compulsory voting - you'd have excitement and the unknown every four years.

to those who voted for a black fella good onya

for those who voted for whoever they thought was the better of two options - good onya

for those who voted good onya

from what I've seen in news reports in australia there were no losers in this election - a massive record voter turnout shows there's hopes for democracy even in the USA :-)

CookieCows 11-05-2008 08:46 AM

Re: History was made tonight
 
Well history would have been made no matter which side won but congrats to all who got the president of their choice!

Deb

D_&_T 11-05-2008 10:25 AM

Re: History was made tonight
 
I voted. The only thing that I can say about Obama winning is that he actually had a really nice speech last night. Maybe he will bring this country together, not push us further apart.

lt_eggbeater 11-05-2008 10:42 AM

Re: History was made tonight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by momoese (Post 56480)
A half black man will soon be the leader of our country. I guess he can now ride at the front of the bus! :0519:


Well I guess this must mean that they are going to do away with affirmative action. It must be obvious to all but the most dense that it is certainly not needed any longer.

lorax 11-05-2008 10:45 AM

Re: History was made tonight
 
:woohoonaner:

We can all breathe a little easier down here in South America. I know everybody in Ecuador was rooting for Obama, because it's very very unlikely that he'll invade us. We saw it as a real possibility if McCain got in....

:woohoonaner:

Richard 11-05-2008 03:04 PM

Re: History was made tonight
 
I thought I was hearing the real John McCain last night for the first time in several months.

momoese 11-05-2008 03:26 PM

Re: History was made tonight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 56536)
I thought I was hearing the real John McCain last night for the first time in several months.

I was thinking the same thing.

It was a bad choice taking on Palin. Of course we probably haven't heard the last of her. Looks like the smart folks of Alaska re elected Ted Stevens even though he'll get tossed by the Dems leaving the door open for Palin or Begich. Gads!

lt_eggbeater 11-05-2008 03:37 PM

Re: History was made tonight
 
Glad I shorted the market yesterday.

lt_eggbeater 11-05-2008 04:01 PM

Re: History was made tonight
 
Jackpot!! Down over 500 points!!! Thankyou Mr. Obama!!!

modenacart 11-05-2008 05:51 PM

Re: History was made tonight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lorax (Post 56507)
:woohoonaner:

We can all breathe a little easier down here in South America. I know everybody in Ecuador was rooting for Obama, because it's very very unlikely that he'll invade us. We saw it as a real possibility if McCain got in....

:woohoonaner:

I am sure that wasn't very likely at all with McCain.

modenacart 11-05-2008 05:53 PM

Re: History was made tonight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by momoese (Post 56538)
I was thinking the same thing.

It was a bad choice taking on Palin. Of course we probably haven't heard the last of her. Looks like the smart folks of Alaska re elected Ted Stevens even though he'll get tossed by the Dems leaving the door open for Palin or Begich. Gads!

The bad Choice wasn't Palin, it was letting her talk to CBS before she was ready. Her voting was very Libertarian on fiscal issues. She had almost no dirt on her unlike most politicians. She was found not to have abused her power by an independant board. She got the very short end of the stick by people who were in love with Obama. The campain manger was to blame big time for the problems McCain had.

lorax 11-05-2008 06:34 PM

Re: History was made tonight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by modenacart (Post 56547)
I am sure that wasn't very likely at all with McCain.

Well, consider this: McCain was seen down in South America, (which I don't need to remind you is primarily composed of left-leaning Governments) as an extension of Bush II.

Considering Bush II's policies towards Venezuela (open hate), Ecuador (treat the Presidente like a terrorist), and Bolivia (try to oust the legally elected Presidente) it's not entirely surprising that we figured an invasion was in the works. Those three are also petroleum-producing countries (part of the new cartel of South and Central American Oil Producers) and Bush has a proven track record of invading oil-rich countries.

So there's my reasoning. Personally, I'm Canadian-Ecuadorian, and I'm happy that Obama is in, and not McCain. Largely because I figured that McCain would kick the bucket during his first term, leaving the US with President Palin. Which is more than a little frightening. The USA could do with a bit of old-style moderate thinking, and that's what it seems to me that Obama represents.

modenacart 11-05-2008 06:41 PM

Re: History was made tonight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lorax (Post 56549)
Well, consider this: McCain was seen down in South America, (which I don't need to remind you is primarily composed of left-leaning Governments) as an extension of Bush II.

Considering Bush II's policies towards Venezuela (open hate), Ecuador (treat the Presidente like a terrorist), and Bolivia (try to oust the legally elected Presidente) it's not entirely surprising that we figured an invasion was in the works. Those three are also petroleum-producing countries (part of the new cartel of South and Central American Oil Producers) and Bush has a proven track record of invading oil-rich countries.

So there's my reasoning. Personally, I'm Canadian-Ecuadorian, and I'm happy that Obama is in, and not McCain. Largely because I figured that McCain would kick the bucket during his first term, leaving the US with President Palin. Which is more than a little frightening. The USA could do with a bit of old-style moderate thinking, and that's what it seems to me that Obama represents.

You do realize that Obama has voted only with his party, so there is no history of him being moderate. McCain was very, very moderate. I only hope that Obama is moderate.

momoese 11-05-2008 11:02 PM

Re: History was made tonight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by modenacart (Post 56548)
The bad Choice wasn't Palin, it was letting her talk to CBS before she was ready. Her voting was very Libertarian on fiscal issues. She had almost no dirt on her unlike most politicians. She was found not to have abused her power by an independant board. She got the very short end of the stick by people who were in love with Obama. The campain manger was to blame big time for the problems McCain had.

Are you seriously defending this crackpot? Wow

harveyc 11-05-2008 11:37 PM

Re: History was made tonight
 
I'm praying for Obama to have the wisdom to lead this country in a just way.

I believe that Pope Benedict is also. See ZENIT - Pope Urges Obama to Build Just World

Mitchel, please, there is no need to use divisive language such as that. Many of us admire Sarah Palin, particularly for her strong pro-life views.

momoese 11-06-2008 12:08 AM

Re: History was made tonight
 
Sorry Harvey, but I call a spade a spade. Maybe I should call her the "C" word like McCain does to his wife? :rolleyes:

harveyc 11-06-2008 12:42 AM

Re: History was made tonight
 
No, rise above it. Use tact when possible.

My 10 year old was studying tonight about the job of a diplomat and I can loan you the materials if you'd like. Some thoughts are best to be left where the idea originated. ;)

BIGDAWG69 11-06-2008 02:09 AM

Re: History was made tonight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lt_eggbeater (Post 56505)
Well I guess this must mean that they are going to do away with affirmative action. It must be obvious to all but the most dense that it is certainly not needed any longer.


Its not fair that companies use AA and someone who is better qualified for a job gets turned down because "we need to fill this position with a minority". I lost a job to AA. I was the highest scoring person on all the tests, but because they needed a "racial minority" and a "gender minority" I was not hired.

But I doubt AA is going to leave us. If it does, companies will have to hire based on qualifications. Well thats going to be called discrimination by the minority groups that rely on AA to get a job. And we all know that we cannot discriminate. So.......AA is here to stay.


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