Dr. Mercola Interviews Dr. Huber about GMO
 

Long and very interesting interview! If it's too long for you and you just want the jest of the conversation, just watch 2 minutes of it starting at the 8 minute mark of pt2 .

Dr. Mercola Interviews Dr. Huber about GMO (Part 1 of 2) - YouTube

Dr. Mercola Interviews Dr. Huber about GMO (Part 2 of 2) - YouTube

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From the link you provided.

Watch the videos in full Tony. It's tough when the industry controls everything including how it's regulated.

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I did watch it in full

It is important to recognize that there is little data published in refereed journals to support these claims. Data that are available have been taken greatly out of context to support the accusations.

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That's because the little peer reviewed data available is brought to you from the companies making the products. It's ridiculous.

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Well no way I am smart enough know who is right. Here is how I feel about it.

Recently appointed South Dakota Secretary of Agriculture Walt Bones took no side on the issue.

"We don't have the 'science' to refute or support Dr. Huber's claims at this time,"

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Unfortunately, GMO can refer to several different procedures of genetically modifying organisms. Take the ballot initiative in California for example. Given the language in the initiative, several common varieties of seedless citrus, thornless berries, hybrid pears, etc. that we have been eating for 50 years or more would be classified as GMO.

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Mitchel, I saw reports about Dr. Huber re-cycled around again a couple of weeks ago. I've read on blogs that he's had 300 peer-reviewed articles but have never read what those articles are about. His career was quite different from what he's make a name for now.

Monsanto does not regulate what gets researched or reported. They have not bought out every university and scientist in the country. Reuters reported some of the claims by Dr. Huber about a year ago but also printed why Monsanto said those were baseless claims. People want to believe Monsanto is "evil" so they only look for the information that supports their belief instead of looking for facts. The stuff Huber claims would be making news in the major outlets if it was credible. Bad news attracts viewers and the media would have a great time with it.

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No, no conflict of interest or power to make things happen in Washington. That's just crazy talk! :ha:

From 8-11
'Michael Taylor was just appointed senior advisor to the commissioner of the FDA. This is the same man that was in charge of FDA policy when GMO's were allowed into the US food supply without undergoing a single test to determine their safety. He "had been Monsanto's attorney before becoming policy chief at the FDA [and then] he became Monsanto's Vice President and chief lobbyist. This month [he] became the senior advisor to the commissioner of the FDA. He is now America's food safety czar.

NAME - MONSANTO JOB - GOVERNMENT JOB - ADMIN

Toby Moffett Monsanto Consultant US Congessman D-CT

Dennis DeConcini Monsanto Legal Counsel US Senator D-AZ

Margaret Miller Chemical Lab Supervisor Dep. Dir. FDA, HFS

Marcia Hale Director, Int'l Govt. Affairs White House Senior Staff

Mickey Kantor Board Member Sec. of Commerce

Virginia Weldon VP, Public Policy WH-Appt to CSA, Gore's SDR

Josh King Director, Int'l Govt. Affairs White House Communications

David Beler VP, Gov't & Public Affairs Gore's Chief Dom. Polcy Advisor

Carol Tucker-Foreman Monsanto Lobbyist WH-Appointed Consumer Adv

Linda Fisher VP, Gov't & Public Affairs Deputy Admin EPA

Lidia Watrud Manager, New Technologies USDA, EPA

Michael Taylor VP, Public Policy Dep. Commiss. FDA

Hilary Clinton Rose Law Firm, Monsanto Counsel US Senator, Secretary of State D-NY

Roger Beachy Director, Monsanto Danforth Center Director USDA NIFA

Islam Siddiqui Monsanto Lobbyist Ag Negotiator Trade Rep

Then there is this.
Monsanto spent $2 million lobbying gov't in 3Q - BusinessWeek

Nope, nothing wrong with this picture :rolleyes:

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I never said Monsanto doesn't have influence in government. That does nothing to stop media from reporting credible reports about problems with food safety. For instance, there is a report out now in the AP about resistance to Monsanto's Bt corn. That is a legitimate concern that is well documented by various scientists, including at a university. There is no evidence that Monsanto has tried to shut them up.

Bugs may be resistant to genetically modified corn - Yahoo! News

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No GMO corn used here

Still Making Moonshine - sprouting malt corn - YouTube

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I want to see the rest of the process.

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Give them a few more years.

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I couldn't find a part 2. There are lots of diy moonshine videos

Moonshine and Bluegrass 180 Proof - YouTube

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Serious hillbillies right there!

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I saw that! :ha:

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Labeling Of Biotech Foods Is Unnecessary And Unconstitutional - Forbes

Is GMO Labeling A He-Said, She-Said Debate? - Forbes (she admits she doesn't want to get into details about whether GMO foods are safe)

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As consumers we should have every right to know exactly what is in our food. We've been down this road before so you already know how I feel about it.

When laws are written that make it illegal to label a product as "not" containing any gmo you know things are bad.

FDA won’t allow food to be labeled free of genetic modification: report | The Raw Story

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You already have the right. Grow your own! Otherwise, you really can't be sure anyways.

As the first link points out, regulations for labeling are made to mitigate identified risks.

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:ha: :ha: I heard this clown on a radio show not long ago, nothing but a Monsanto tool.

There is no excuse, sorry. If I run a food company like Amy's and I want to inform my potential customers that my product contains no GMO I should have that right. Wtf country is this anyway, oh wait..I almost forgot it's The United States Of Monsanto :rolleyes:

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You know very well that Amy's labels their products as USDA Organic and that a requirement of that certification is that it contains no GMO items.

You think everyone that disagrees with your views on this is a Monsanto tool but that's not the case. There are many people who think as I do and they've got no ties at all with Monsanto. I'd rather see food labels indicate if the company makes an effort to ensure the workers producing the food are earning a decent wage.

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He's a well known tool, it's no secret.

You are right about organic labeling, lucky for us, but it's semantics, you know what I'm saying.

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Well known (or identified as such) among the circles you follow. That does not prove he's not objective. Many that insist on labeling are very passionate about it, if not logical. The pro-labeling blogger even indicated she didn't want to bring in the safety of GMO foods. That seems to be more a tool just to scare consumers than provide meaningful information.

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We have a right to know. What else is there to say?

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He's a self admitted GMO proponent and the co author of a pro GMO book. He's as far away from objective as one could be.

I have no circles as you say. Stop with the belittling.

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There is nothing that I said that should be construed as belittling. You obviously listen to and read blogs that are anti-GMO, pro-organic, etc. Those are the "circles" I speak of and there is nothing negative about that. That is your own bias.

The fact that someone is pro-GMO does not in any way indicate that they are not objective. If that were the case, an objective person could never reach a conclusion about the subject.

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I have common sense, and also a caring for the earth and the people who rely on it to exist. I use the Internet to obtain and share, just like you do, but I do not make a point of shoving that in your face every chance I get. I'm sure your reply is: what real world experience do you have.. right? Well let me ask you what real world GMO human safety testing experience do have? None, because there is none and there never will be, well, at least none that you will accept while fighting for your Monsanto. You will always find an excuse.

I understand you make a living growing and selling a product designed and made (with no legitimate safety testing and free reign via Obama and others) by what I consider the most evil corporation on the planet, but that is your choice. I also understand you will fight to the death to protect that corporation. Again your choice. Keep in mind that untested animal feed is feeding a nation (world), and there are studies that say it's poisoning the animals and who knows what to us. I shudder to think what you and others will do when the sh!t hits the fan, although with Monsanto's involvement in the government that might never happen. Lucky for you, or not depending on how you look at it.

I'm just happy I'm not trapped in the Monsanto web of deception and corruption. That's the only silver lining I see.

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If there is any belittling or shoving in your face going on, it's by you, Mitchel. You post your views about GMO foods or Monsanto and think anything contrary to your views is wrong without considering anything to the contrary. I don't make excuses for Monsanto and it's not "my company". I try to be objective and look at facts. I've grown more conventional crops than GMO crops and see values in both.

Here is an article about a farmer that grows many crops, including both organic cotton and GMO cotton. Cotton paves way for SJV cornucopia | Cotton content from Western Farm Press

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Harvey what do you get when you cross Monsanto, Windows and Black Water Security?

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Some nightmare dream of a bunch of liberals?

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Nice art work, but I was thinking more along the lines of a genetically engineered Robcop.

All kidding aside, Food supply, IT, and the worlds biggest private military. That's a lot of power!

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Some bloggers have so much hate that they get the facts mixed up or don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Too Much of a Bad Thing: Monsanto Did NOT Buy Blackwater (from an anti-Monsanto source)

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I read a piece read from an author back in 2010 that they did not buy them (he was commenting on another authors article), then on another website in 2011 he said they did. It happens.

A lot of people said they just hired XE, then later most reports say XE was sold to Monsanto.

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The article above says one person's comments were misunderstood and then the xe purchase spread like crazy. Can't find any mainline media articles commenting on such a purchase which would likely be the case since it would be quite unusual.

If I was conducting some business in Iraq or Afghanistan I'd probably hire xe also.

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Me neither. How about you give them a ring and ask. :ha:

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Think I'll pass. If I'm wrong, you might not ever hear from me again! ;)

Another guy I know (who happens to be anti-Monsanto) posted this article on Facebook the other day: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/31/sc...lity.html?_r=1 Have you seen it. Some organic certainly isn't sustainable or good for the environment.

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No I had not seen it yet. If what they claim is true it's just another reason for people to only eat what's in season from local organic farmers that you trust. Or your own of course.

That may be tough though for those living in cold zones. Green houses, aquaculture etc might be at least part of the answer for those areas.

If I had to choose I'd take the Mexican organic over the China "organic" anyday!

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I think it's probably true but I don't know how widespread of a problem it is.

China organic reminds me of Whole Foods Market China Organic California blend ? - YouTube

I wonder if WF cleaned up their act.

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Yeah that's what i was talking about. Organic California veggies grown in China. :rolleyes:

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Scary, I knew what you were talking about. I must be hanging out in the same circles! :)

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Circles are for Google + :)

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I only have a few people in my Google+ circle, doesn't seem to be catching on and over-taking Facebook. We also use circles in scouts ("circle up"). :)

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WOW!!! :eek: Less WF and more like WTF!

Several years back, my dad noticed that Giorgio mushrooms at Sam's were no linger a product of the USA, but China, so I sent them an email. The VP of the company called me personally, and he explained there weren't enough mushrooms grown in this country to keep up with demand. Well, demand dropped for Chinese shrooms, and now you cannot get them in gallon cans at Sam's anymore. People quit buying them, and they can't supply enough US-only fungi to meet the gallon demand. That's why I started growing my own last year.

Thanks for the link. I came across it literally 5 minutes before I started recording my show, and I wasn't sure what I was going to talk about this week. This pointed me toward Urban Gardening 101. :bananas_b