New Coconut Cream Mango Tree !

edzone9 · 02-13-2013, 07:56 PM

Hello Gang;

I have been working all week in the Miami Area , Today i stopped by PINE Island Tropical Tree Nursery .

Alex The Owner & his Staff are really Cool People ! .
I Picked up :

3 Gal Guanabana Tree
3 Gal Glen Mango Tree
3 Galon Brogdon Avacado Tree
and a New Patended mango Tree variety Called The Coconut Cream Mango , Its some kind of wierd hydrid that taste like coconut / Mango

All trees are really healthy & tall , there in the back of my Truck , Will Head home Tomorrow & see how these trees do in NE Florida , Will Post Pics Once I plant thses babys !

PR-Giants · 02-13-2013, 08:40 PM

Orig. in Winter Haven, FL, by Tom W. Brogdon. Introd. in 1951. Parentage unknown; discovered in late 1930s; tested by Univ. of Florida, Sub-Tropical Expt. Stal, as PI 4761; Mexican race. Fruit: 7 to 20 oz; somewhat pear shaped; skin purple, very thin; susceptible to handling injury; flesh yellow, buttery; ripens late July to Aug. Tree: small to medium; vigor moderate; productivity low; very hardy; susceptible to anthracnose; recommended for central Florida. (B&O Register) Flowering group B (Lahav & Gazit)

Abnshrek · 02-13-2013, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PR-Giants

Orig. in Winter Haven, FL, by Tom W. Brogdon. Introd. in 1951. Parentage unknown; discovered in late 1930s; tested by Univ. of Florida, Sub-Tropical Expt. Stal, as PI 4761; Mexican race. Fruit: 7 to 20 oz; somewhat pear shaped; skin purple, very thin; susceptible to handling injury; flesh yellow, buttery; ripens late July to Aug. Tree: small to medium; vigor moderate; productivity low; very hardy; susceptible to anthracnose; recommended for central Florida. (B&O Register) Flowering group B (Lahav & Gazit)

But do they taste good, that's the real Q? :^)

PR-Giants · 02-14-2013, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Abnshrek

But do they taste good, that's the real Q? :^)

They probably taste good if you like Mexican Avocados.

So the real Q should be, do you like Mexican Avocados ? :^)

Most people in the Caribbean prefer West Indian Avocados.

Most Californians prefer Guatemalan Avocados.

Most growers don't prefer a tree of moderate vigor with low productivity.

If I was living in NE Florida, I would look for local trees growing well and offer to buy some fruit.

If the fruit quality and productivity was what I wanted, I would then buy some cuttings.

Abnshrek · 02-14-2013, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PR-Giants

Most growers don't prefer a tree of moderate vigor with low productivity.
If I was living in NE Florida, I would look for local trees growing well and offer to buy some fruit.
If the fruit quality and productivity was what I wanted, I would then buy some cuttings.

Now that sounds like a way to do some local shopping.. :^)

robguz24 · 02-14-2013, 02:40 PM

The fruit I've gotten from my Glen mango is the best mango I've ever had. Complex, peachy flavors, nearly fiberless.

Dalmatiansoap · 02-14-2013, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Abnshrek

But do they taste good, that's the real Q? :^)

No way! In my case the real Q whoud be: If UR in Miami area why would U ever go back home?

just envy non mango grower

edzone9 · 02-14-2013, 06:06 PM

Just got home , Planted the :
Glen Mango
Coconut Cream Mango
Brodgon Avacado
And The Guanabana Tree i Left In A Pot , Untill Late Next Month .
We are expecting 1 More Frost In The NE Florida area .

I am done Planting For Now , No More Room For anything !
I wish i had just a lil more property

.

I will post some pix tomorrow

.

oakshadows · 02-14-2013, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dalmatiansoap

No way! In my case the real Q whoud be: If UR in Miami area why would U ever go back home?

just envy non mango grower

It's crowded, a lot of culprits wanting your money, heavy traffic and not many friendly people. A little outside of there it is beautiful and very florific. South Florida is beautiful if you can afford it and some areas are quite expensive. The weather is the big attraction and well worth it. As with many large cities the problems some times are too large for most.

oakshadows · 02-14-2013, 07:48 PM

Ed, how old is the tree. I might be interested in one as I found they can produce in the 3 to 4 year old plant. Thanks and good growing.

edzone9 · 02-14-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by oakshadows

Ed, how old is the tree. I might be interested in one as I found they can produce in the 3 to 4 year old plant. Thanks and good growing.

How Old is which Tree ?

The Brogdon Avacado Is About 5 Ft Tall & is Already Fruiting

edzone9 · 02-14-2013, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by oakshadows

It's crowded, a lot of culprits wanting your money, heavy traffic and not many friendly people. A little outside of there it is beautiful and very florific. South Florida is beautiful if you can afford it and some areas are quite expensive. The weather is the big attraction and well worth it. As with many large cities the problems some times are too large for most.

I dont like the Miami Traffic , Reminds Me Of NYC , The People Where cool To Me .

I Like The Food Down There , I Really Like The Tree Farms They Have Down There . I would Not Like To Live There , We Love It In St Augustine.

bananimal · 02-15-2013, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edzone9

Just got home , Planted the :
Glen Mango
Coconut Cream Mango
Brodgon Avacado
And The Guanabana Tree i Left In A Pot , Untill Late Next Month .
We are expecting 1 More Frost In The NE Florida area .

I am done Planting For Now , No More Room For anything !
I wish i had just a lil more property

.

I will post some pix tomorrow

.

Wait till you try the Pickering, Maha Chanok and Nam Doc Mai mangos. You will make room.

Look for the fruit if you are back down in Dade in a few months.

If you like Hass you can take the Brogdons taste. I can't eat the greasy Hass types cause my teeth stick together. I picked the Lula for its cold resistance and it has a better balance of the greasy Mexican Cado taste and the West Indian.

The Soursop will have to be containerized cause of your location. Move it into the garage when it gets in the 30's. You get freezes right?

PR-Giants · 02-15-2013, 09:48 AM

Fairchild Tropical Botanic Garden

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Originally Posted by bananimal

Wait till you try the Pickering, Maha Chanok and Nam Doc Mai mangos.

Dan, do you have these trees?

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Originally Posted by bananimal

If you like Hass you can take the Brogdons taste. I can't eat the greasy Hass types cause my teeth stick together. I picked the Lula for its cold resistance and it has a better balance of the greasy Mexican Cado taste and the West Indian.

Lula

(Guat.x Mex.) FL Origin.from seed from parent Taft tree planted 1915 by Mrs. Lulu (Geo.B.) Cellon at Miami, FL,fruited 1919, propagated 1921. A rapid, thrifty grower in FL, precocious & productive; more frost resistant than most, very satisfactory in the Ridge section lower east coast sections, & recommended for southern FL. Fruit season, Dec.-Jan. Color, green. Weight,16-24 ozs. Shape, pyriform. Skin, nearly smooth. Flavor, good. Oil,12-16%. Seed, lg. Illus.& desc. FL Agri. Exper. Sta. Bul.272. (CAS Yearbook 1950) Orig. in Miami, FL, by George B. Cellon, nurseryman. Introd. in 1921. Open-pollinated seedling of Taft; selected in 1919. Fruit

yriform; skin almost smooth, dark, glossy green; quality good; lg. seed, tight in cavity; fair market appeal; very susceptible to avocado scab. Tree: vigorous & upright, prolific & regular bearer; class "A" blossom type. (B&O Register) (Lulu) Origin, FL; Race, GxM; Flower group, A (Lahav & Gazit) (seed of Taft planted in Miami in 1915);pear-shaped, sometimes with neck; med.-lg; skin almost smooth;flesh pale-to greenish-yellow,12-16% oil; seed lg.,tight. Season: med.-late (mid-Nov.& Dec.).Tree tall, bears early & heavily; cold-resistant, successful in central & southern FL where it was formerly the leading commercial cultivar. It is the principal cultivar in Martinique for exporting to France; represents 95% of the crop. (J.Morton 1987)

Russell

(W.I.)FL Originated Islamorado,FL from seed of fruit brought from Cuba by John Russel & planted near his home about1880. Top-worked by Harvey Fitzpatrick, Homestead, FL in 1935, shortly before parent tree was destroyed by a hurricane. Fruit: season, Aug.-Sept.; color, green; weight, 24-36 ozs.; shape, clavate; skin, smooth, leathery. Seed, med. Sometimes solid neck of flesh 5-6" long.(CAS Yearbook 1950) Orig. in Islamorado, FL by John Russell. Introd. in 1935. Seedling of West Ind. type from seed of fruit brought from Cuba about 1880. Fruit: large, 24-36 oz; often 12"long; clavate; skin green, smooth, leathery; flesh yellow; seed size med.; cavity low in the broad end of fruit, often a solid neck of flesh 5-6"long;season Aug.&Sept.Tree: vigorous; moderately productive. Flower group A. Not propagated commercially.(B&O Register) Origin, CA; Race, WI; Flower, A (Lahav & Gazit) (originated in Islamorada in FL Keys); pear-shaped at apex with long neck giving it a total length up to 13"(32.5cm); skin, smooth, glossy, thin, leathery; flesh of excellent quality; seed small. Season: Aug.&Sept.Tree bears well & is recommended for home gardens. (J Morton)

edzone9 · 02-15-2013, 10:54 AM

Im Not a big fan of the Mexican Type Avacados , But the Brogdon is a very cold hardy tree for my zone 9 .

I prefer the West Indian type as PR Giant Stated .

I have The Following Avacado Tpes:

Catalina ( Cuba ) .
Bragdon
Oro Negro ( Very Cold Hardy With Excellent Taste )
I also have a Unknown 7ft Tall Avacado tree i planted from a seed , Has to be WI type , the fruit was bought in a Bodega In NYC it was the size of a Small football Great flavor .

If i get another avacado i will maybe get the Monroe.

Yes we get Get Cold snaps & frost in NE Florida , This sat & Sun will go down to the upper 30s.

The Guanabanas are in pots in the garage , i am goung to build a green house for them , to keep them in the ground all season long.

bananimal · 02-15-2013, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants

Fairchild Tropical Botanic Garden

Dan, do you have these trees?

Lula

(Guat.x Mex.) FL Origin.from seed from parent Taft tree planted 1915 by Mrs. Lulu (Geo.B.) Cellon at Miami, FL,fruited 1919, propagated 1921. A rapid, thrifty grower in FL, precocious & productive; more frost resistant than most, very satisfactory in the Ridge section lower east coast sections, & recommended for southern FL. Fruit season, Dec.-Jan. Color, green. Weight,16-24 ozs. Shape, pyriform. Skin, nearly smooth. Flavor, good. Oil,12-16%. Seed, lg. Illus.& desc. FL Agri. Exper. Sta. Bul.272. (CAS Yearbook 1950) Orig. in Miami, FL, by George B. Cellon, nurseryman. Introd. in 1921. Open-pollinated seedling of Taft; selected in 1919. Fruit

yriform; skin almost smooth, dark, glossy green; quality good; lg. seed, tight in cavity; fair market appeal; very susceptible to avocado scab. Tree: vigorous & upright, prolific & regular bearer; class "A" blossom type. (B&O Register) (Lulu) Origin, FL; Race, GxM; Flower group, A (Lahav & Gazit) (seed of Taft planted in Miami in 1915);pear-shaped, sometimes with neck; med.-lg; skin almost smooth;flesh pale-to greenish-yellow,12-16% oil; seed lg.,tight. Season: med.-late (mid-Nov.& Dec.).Tree tall, bears early & heavily; cold-resistant, successful in central & southern FL where it was formerly the leading commercial cultivar. It is the principal cultivar in Martinique for exporting to France; represents 95% of the crop. (J.Morton 1987)

Russell

(W.I.)FL Originated Islamorado,FL from seed of fruit brought from Cuba by John Russel & planted near his home about1880. Top-worked by Harvey Fitzpatrick, Homestead, FL in 1935, shortly before parent tree was destroyed by a hurricane. Fruit: season, Aug.-Sept.; color, green; weight, 24-36 ozs.; shape, clavate; skin, smooth, leathery. Seed, med. Sometimes solid neck of flesh 5-6" long.(CAS Yearbook 1950) Orig. in Islamorado, FL by John Russell. Introd. in 1935. Seedling of West Ind. type from seed of fruit brought from Cuba about 1880. Fruit: large, 24-36 oz; often 12"long; clavate; skin green, smooth, leathery; flesh yellow; seed size med.; cavity low in the broad end of fruit, often a solid neck of flesh 5-6"long;season Aug.&Sept.Tree: vigorous; moderately productive. Flower group A. Not propagated commercially.(B&O Register) Origin, CA; Race, WI; Flower, A (Lahav & Gazit) (originated in Islamorada in FL Keys); pear-shaped at apex with long neck giving it a total length up to 13"(32.5cm); skin, smooth, glossy, thin, leathery; flesh of excellent quality; seed small. Season: Aug.&Sept.Tree bears well & is recommended for home gardens. (J Morton)

Just the Lula.

The new mango just planted this week --- Cogshall.

momoese · 02-15-2013, 01:10 PM

That a nice big starter tree Dan! What do you pay for a tree that big?

edzone9 · 02-15-2013, 02:49 PM

Wow great looking Tree ! Huge ! Mine are in the 3-5ft Range there only $30 EACH .

That size is $89-$200 Range , But Its Ready To Go ! You will have fruit soon !

PR-Giants · 02-15-2013, 03:25 PM

Here most grafted fruit trees retail in the $7 - $ 12 range.

Large banana pups are in the $0.50 - $0.75 range.

bananimal · 02-15-2013, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by momoese

That a nice big starter tree Dan! What do you pay for a tree that big?

Twenty gal pot 4 or 5 yrs old = $200.00 Sprouting flowers now and there will be fruit in a few months. I'll post the Pickering, Nam Doc Mai and Glenn pics later.

Keith --- are older mango and cado trees avail in PR in the 30 to 50 gal pot sizes? And please don't say they are $25 bucks each!

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