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sunfish 10-08-2011 09:55 AM

Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
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Nicolas Naranja 10-08-2011 12:00 PM

Re: Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
It all depends on where you are and what your needs are. Where I grow I can get away with 4-1/4 lbs applications of 0-0-60. On the coastal sands you are looking at 6-12 applications of 9-2-18 or 12-4-24. If you are in a low organic matter situation you could certainly benefit from using manure. Years ago I would have told you not to bother using foliar nutrition, but I am now a proponent of the products. During the summer I started hitting the plants at my house with foliar fertilizer and the improvement was immediate.

sunfish 10-08-2011 12:19 PM

Re: Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicolas Naranja (Post 175206)
It all depends on where you are and what your needs are. Where I grow I can get away with 4-1/4 lbs applications of 0-0-60. On the coastal sands you are looking at 6-12 applications of 9-2-18 or 12-4-24. If you are in a low organic matter situation you could certainly benefit from using manure. Years ago I would have told you not to bother using foliar nutrition, but I am now a proponent of the products. During the summer I started hitting the plants at my house with foliar fertilizer and the improvement was immediate.

Thanks.So for me being in heavy clay 0-0-60 should do ? I happen to have a few bags

momoese 10-08-2011 03:48 PM

Re: Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
Have you had your soil tested Tony?

sunfish 10-08-2011 04:24 PM

Re: Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
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Originally Posted by momoese (Post 175246)
Have you had your soil tested Tony?

No.Guess I should

Nicolas Naranja 10-08-2011 04:42 PM

Re: Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
Definitely test your soil and get your plants tissue tested. Some soils have tons of potassium already.

pondplantgirl 10-08-2011 05:26 PM

Re: Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
I've been using a heat activated 13-13-13 for my artichoke plants, which are also big feeders. I have a friend who uses Miracle Grow powdered. Instead of mixing it with the water, he sprinkles it right on the soil and waters it in well. However, I believe that a heavy organic mulch will work just as well. I would suggest bagged steer manure, but some people cringe at the thought of poo on edible plants.

scottu 10-08-2011 05:39 PM

Re: Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
I just dig out a 6 foot round area down about four feet or so and replace with the best soil I can mix.I figure if the roots go much further they are strong enough to acclimate.
The dirt here would never even grow weeds otherwise.

Christian Rieger 10-08-2011 05:56 PM

Re: Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
Do a Google search for rock dust, chicken manure and bat manure.

Read the information so you understand why you want to use these instead of synthetic fertilizers that kill the life in the soil.

sunfish 10-08-2011 06:12 PM

Re: Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
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Originally Posted by Christian Rieger (Post 175257)
Do a Google search for rock dust, chicken manure and bat manure.

Read the information so you understand why you want to use these instead of synthetic fertilizers that kill the life in the soil.

Okay

pondplantgirl 10-08-2011 06:16 PM

Re: Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
After my large 10-year-old 15" koi died this year, I planted him under my California Gold, and it ended up producing 5 pups! I like to think his fishy spirit goes on in a banana kind of way.


sunfish 10-08-2011 06:22 PM

Re: Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
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Originally Posted by pondplantgirl (Post 175261)
After my large 10-year-old 15" koi died this year, I planted him under my California Gold, and it ended up producing 5 pups! I like to think his fishy spirit goes on in a banana kind of way.




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momoese 10-08-2011 06:35 PM

Re: Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
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Originally Posted by momoese (Post 175246)
Have you had your soil tested Tony?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 175248)
No.Guess I should

Until then just add some more fish heads.

sunfish 10-08-2011 06:57 PM

Re: Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
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Originally Posted by momoese (Post 175266)
Until then just add some more fish heads.

Good idea

scottu 10-08-2011 07:19 PM

Re: Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
Okay, I did get a deal on the bat Guyana from an out going supply house at half price and I used it as a fert source, but palm tone cannot be beat for it's properties etc to alot of others that don't meet the official organic lable, as such.
As far as the organics, I really don't get a lot of the pissyness! all things degrade! And "Banana fuel" rules!!!

oakshadows 10-08-2011 08:16 PM

Re: Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
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Originally Posted by scottu (Post 175255)
I just dig out a 6 foot round area down about four feet or so and replace with the best soil I can mix.I figure if the roots go much further they are strong enough to acclimate.
The dirt here would never even grow weeds otherwise.

The additive is good but could you decipher the rest of your message "after even weeds" otherwise? I'm a little slow.

sunfish 10-08-2011 08:43 PM

Re: Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
[quote=oakshadows;175283] I'm a little slow. :ha::ha:

momoese 10-08-2011 09:01 PM

Re: Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by momoese (Post 175266)
Until then just add some more fish heads.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 175270)
Good idea

But first you'll have to catch them. :ha:

sunfish 10-08-2011 09:22 PM

Re: Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
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Originally Posted by momoese (Post 175291)
But first you'll have to catch them. :ha:

Maybe I'll just collect some seaweed and wait till the first of the year to buy a license.



:ha::ha:

scottu 10-08-2011 09:24 PM

Re: Whats the best fertilizer ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oakshadows (Post 175283)
The additive is good but could you decipher the rest of your message "after even weeds" otherwise? I'm a little slow.


I think my point to witch you are referring was, that I don't use a fert as an amendment since my soil is so bad, Instead I just dig out the existing soil and replace it with my homemade soil instead. Sometimes you have to punt! And then if you do that you will be sure of what is in your soil.


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