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It all depends on where you are and what your needs are. Where I grow I can get away with 4-1/4 lbs applications of 0-0-60. On the coastal sands you are looking at 6-12 applications of 9-2-18 or 12-4-24. If you are in a low organic matter situation you could certainly benefit from using manure. Years ago I would have told you not to bother using foliar nutrition, but I am now a proponent of the products. During the summer I started hitting the plants at my house with foliar fertilizer and the improvement was immediate.
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Have you had your soil tested Tony?
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Definitely test your soil and get your plants tissue tested. Some soils have tons of potassium already.
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I've been using a heat activated 13-13-13 for my artichoke plants, which are also big feeders. I have a friend who uses Miracle Grow powdered. Instead of mixing it with the water, he sprinkles it right on the soil and waters it in well. However, I believe that a heavy organic mulch will work just as well. I would suggest bagged steer manure, but some people cringe at the thought of poo on edible plants.
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I just dig out a 6 foot round area down about four feet or so and replace with the best soil I can mix.I figure if the roots go much further they are strong enough to acclimate.
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Do a Google search for rock dust, chicken manure and bat manure.
Read the information so you understand why you want to use these instead of synthetic fertilizers that kill the life in the soil. |
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After my large 10-year-old 15" koi died this year, I planted him under my California Gold, and it ended up producing 5 pups! I like to think his fishy spirit goes on in a banana kind of way.
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Okay, I did get a deal on the bat Guyana from an out going supply house at half price and I used it as a fert source, but palm tone cannot be beat for it's properties etc to alot of others that don't meet the official organic lable, as such.
As far as the organics, I really don't get a lot of the pissyness! all things degrade! And "Banana fuel" rules!!! |
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[quote=oakshadows;175283] I'm a little slow. :ha::ha:
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I think my point to witch you are referring was, that I don't use a fert as an amendment since my soil is so bad, Instead I just dig out the existing soil and replace it with my homemade soil instead. Sometimes you have to punt! And then if you do that you will be sure of what is in your soil. |
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Mostly backfill of some sort, Cans, bottles, garbage. Its generally about 6 to 12 inches of a dirt like stuff that will allow some cover plants to grow, then below that is 2feet of crap it all depends on the spot you dig as to what you will come up with, the only sure thing is, is that if you dig through it you will hit clay and that will be there to about 4 feet deep and that is why I always dig out that much if I am going to plant anything that I really want to grow.
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Hey Mitchel, what kind of dog do you walk? I know all about that dog walking thing, I had a 150 lb black Shepard I had to walk twice a day, miss him a lot!
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Further, these so-called synthetic fertilizers do not kill life in the soil unless you apply it in massive overdosages -- in which case your plants would also be dead. I am very familiar with the popular internet photo that shows a petri dish with a healthy sample of soil with beneficial organisms, and then the follow-on photo of the dead organisms after 2 tablespoons of miracle grow have been added. That is an extreme overdose! The proper rate is 1 teaspoon per gallon, which would make 6 gallons, and the petri dish barely has a volume of a half cup. Those two tablespoons are the equivalent of 3 gallons of chicken manure. If we submerged the petri dish in 3 gallons of chicken manure the life forms would also die! |
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At this point with the cost of the license, saltwater enhancement, and second pole sticker (not really a sticker anymore) it makes more sense to wait. The one nice thing about surf fishing right now is the lack of crowds. The water is chilling, the air is cooling, the kids are back in school. :08:
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Thanks, the soil here is all sand so we have been doing almost the same as you. There is plenty of compost here for us since we have 5 head of cattle. It works good for us and the worms love it, also improving it. Don't go as deep as you and only dig where the plant is going to be. Trying not to disturb the fungi and bacteria so they can help the plant absorb the minerals. Adding chealated micro minerals and using sea salt solution works for us also. Heavy on the mulch saves some watering time but the timer goes on next year when the season starts. Plenty to do here.
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My soil is weird. I have a layer of good topsoil on top of a thick layer of heavy clay. As of now I just plant my plants in cactus mix mixed with PERLITE and fertilize it with organic fertilizer. I recently added a layer of cocoa mulch. I'm thinking about starting using fish emulsion with each watering next spring. Any recommendations?
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