Transplanting and Bat Guano

leasmom · 03-03-2010, 11:32 AM

My Dwarf Cavendish that I thought was dying has grown quite a bit

and is ready to outgrow its home. I have some Bat Guano coming its gonna be 11-4-1. This will be my first time transplanting. I need help so that I don't mess up the growth that Mrs. Peel is having and I don't burn the roots. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks.

Abnshrek · 03-03-2010, 11:57 AM

Some pot ash should help out your mixture.. :^)

leasmom · 03-03-2010, 12:11 PM

When you say pot ash, what do you mean? I'm new to all this.

sbl · 03-03-2010, 12:23 PM

Potash is potassium. It is the 3rd number in the fertilizer NPK ratio. As I said earlier, it is difficult to supply nutritional needs of bananas with a totally organic approach--especially the K needs. I understand your fear of burning your plant with some types of fertilizer, but there are 2 kinds of commercial fertilizer that eliminate that concern--water soluble fertilizer that you mix with water and apply as you water and slow release pellets that release fertilizer when you water--niether of these will burn your plants.

leasmom · 03-03-2010, 12:26 PM

Thanks. Yeah I'm definately trying to grow them organically. I grow everything organically. Potash is natural, right? Is there a formula for mixing or anything?

sbl · 03-03-2010, 12:34 PM

Potassium is natural--it is an element--it cannot be made by man (minor exception--it can be made in a nuclear reactor--the cost would be millions of dollars an ounce).

leasmom · 03-03-2010, 01:08 PM

Oh good. So what ratio do I use? Like what type of soil to what type of Bat Guano and Potash do I use? I have soil and I also have Rabbit manure/worm casings and Green Sand-(Its Rabbit Hill's Something Special product) as a fertilizer right now and some of it is potted with Mrs. Peel now and I've been using some of it mixed with water to feed her just this week.

* The Bat Guano just came. So I need to buy Potash and then I can repot.

saltydad · 03-03-2010, 03:44 PM

Greensand is a source of potassium too. Not sure if you need much potash in addition.

Abnshrek · 03-03-2010, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leasmom

When you say pot ash, what do you mean? I'm new to all this.

Could be ash from wood burned in a fireplace or a outdoor pit.. :^)

leasmom · 03-03-2010, 06:57 PM

I wish I had some esp. since I'm driving around with wood from my car we picked up off the street to use as firewood. But it keeps snowing here. But thanks...and Green Sand, Theres Green Sand in most of the potting soils too.

1aday · 03-03-2010, 10:16 PM

I'd hold off on transplanting for a few weeks, until the start of spring.

leasmom · 03-04-2010, 05:43 AM

Thanks. So you transplant with the natural time for a plants growth. Does anyone else do this?

Abnshrek · 03-04-2010, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leasmom

Thanks. So you transplant with the natural time for a plants growth. Does anyone else do this?

Lime helps break-down the fertilizer to get a better absorbion rate to the plant in question. This is according to my 73 y/o farming neighbor and he didn't fall to far from the tree :^) He uses pellets its not as messy.. Of course he saw me with a cloud of of powder over in my yard :^) (like a smoke screen) lol

leasmom · 03-04-2010, 06:15 PM

Thats funny. I used to use lime with my chickens to keep odors down. I need to get to the gardening supply store to get some of this stuff.

sunfish · 03-04-2010, 08:56 PM

Info:Fertilizer - Bananas Wiki

Info:Soil - Bananas Wiki

leasmom · 03-04-2010, 09:34 PM

Thanks so much!

leasmom · 03-08-2010, 10:01 AM

Okay, I watered Mrs. Peel and then let her rest for several hours before I transplanted her into a 3 gallon bucket with holes. I bought a mix that had dolomitic limestone, perlite, pine fines, organic compost and canadian sphagnum peat moss. I put a circle of bat guano at the top and water. Its been two days and so far no signs of stress, only green beautiful leaves.

Westwood · 03-09-2010, 03:20 AM

mrs PEEL ?

I love it . sorry cat hit enter before i could finish the post.

leasmom · 03-09-2010, 08:00 AM

Yeah my mother named it. She named my Pineapple plant too but I can't remember what she said...

oakshadows · 06-24-2011, 04:35 PM

Most farm supply stores handle cotton seed meal, bone meal, blood meal and dolomite/lime at much lower cost than garden centers. All organic and work very well here in central Florida for us. At least we know what is going into our veggies. With our new banana plants arriving we will be transplanting them into larger pots and feeding them with a mixture of these. Google for formulas that are good and have fun.

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leasmom Leasmom leasmom's Photo Gallery Location: Johnson City, TENNESSEE Find me on the map! Zone: 7 Name: Patrice Farmer Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 74 BananaBucks : 53,616 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 34 Times Was Thanked 25 Times in 11 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: Transplanting and Bat Guano Thanks. So you transplant with the natural time for a plants growth. Does anyone else do this?

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