Stuck leaf?

jen · 09-01-2009, 09:46 PM

I thought it was a flag leaf but it's not it's just not unfolding. It's a tad shorter than the rest like it didn't come out all the way and it won't unfold. I have had leafs come out unfold on other plants (pups of the same plant) and new one's come in already and this one is just curled up and doing nothing. Should I get on a ladder and fiddle with it? Should I just leave it alone? The plant is at a time and height that it is ready to pop a flag leaf anytime so I don't want this to disrupt it. Anyone know about this?

Jen

LilRaverBoi · 09-01-2009, 10:04 PM

What kind of plant are we talking about? And how tall is it? Do you have pictures? All this information should be helpful to those reading this. Best of luck!

momoese · 09-01-2009, 10:09 PM

A picture of you looking down the cigar leaf while on a tall ladder might help the guys here to figure out what you should do.

I say leave it alone. It will bloom when it's ready.

sbl · 09-02-2009, 06:44 AM

My RP was putting out stuck leaves for 2-3 leaves before the flag--I helped unroll each of them even if I had to tear the leaf-- the bloom came out just fine.

jen · 09-02-2009, 07:58 AM

momoese very funny.

It's a mysore and it's VERY tall. I will snap a picture later when it is brighter outside but it's up there pretty hight and I'm not sure I can get a good one. I just checked it and no progress, still curled up.

I know my plant and this is not normal. I feel like I should fiddle with it and help it along.

The Hollyberry Lady · 09-02-2009, 08:05 AM

Wow - didn't know problems like this could arise. Hope you work it out, Jen.

Good luck.

: )

jen · 09-02-2009, 08:42 AM

***CONFESSION**** Okay I might need to confess my husband also poured a HUGE amount of "Steer Manure" on the base of the plant about 6 weeks ago. We had a left over bag from the tomatoes we were fertilizing with it and he just put it on there thinknig if it's good for the tomatoes it will be good for the bananas. I have always put a little on the base but not a huge amount like he did. Do I need to balance it now with something...would it need calcium now? Did he hurt my banana plant!?

The Hollyberry Lady · 09-02-2009, 08:54 AM

It will be very interesting to see if this is the culprit...

I know when my plants are thriving and then all of a sudden take a nose dive, I immediately think about what has changed - what did I do differenty. I can usually figure it out from there.

I do hope you can make your banana baby happy again.

: )

jen · 09-02-2009, 09:41 AM

Thanks HollyBerryLady...I'm sure it is my fault.

I hope someone here knows and there is a way to reverse whatever I've done.

The Hollyberry Lady · 09-02-2009, 09:58 AM

I'm certain it's going to be ok, but yes, someone with some good advice would come in handy right about now...

: )

Patty in Wisc · 09-02-2009, 01:28 PM

I have the same problem with one of mine. The new leaf just won't come out all the way & it starts unfurling. I don't know why. If you think it's the manure, pull it away from the plant & maybe flush it with water. Just a thought.

jen · 09-02-2009, 02:32 PM

Patty did you fiddle with it and help it along?

Bob · 09-02-2009, 02:38 PM

Don't sweat it Jen, it will pop by itself if you give it time although it will probably tear. Raja puri's in particular are prone to this. I had to give mine a gentle tug or open up the inside of the petiole by hand a few times to get them unstuck. It didn't cause any real troubles though.

momoese · 09-02-2009, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jen

did you fiddle with it

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob

I had to give mine a gentle tug

Bob · 09-02-2009, 02:55 PM

See you're in rare form today Mitchel!

jen · 09-02-2009, 02:56 PM

Okay I'm cautiously excited.

I just crawled up on a ladder and checked it out and it looks like it may be a flag leaf tucked in the one that won't unfold. I drug my camera up there and was sweating to death just to have it tell me I had no battery. SO, I'm charging the battery and waiting to take a picture for all you experts. I was just judging on the height of my plant and I know this is the time when the other one fruited. I really think it's a flag after all. I don't know why it's not popping out or the other leaf is not unfolding but maybe this is how it works. My first bunch I only noticed after it had already sprouted nanners. I'm so excited!!! I will update in a little while with pictures so I can get some opinions.

Naughty momoese

you crack me up!

momoese · 09-02-2009, 03:00 PM

Hey, even I can handle a softball.

There was even better material in this thread but Jarred already closed the adult humor thread so I'll not go there.

bencelest · 09-02-2009, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob

Don't sweat it Jen, it will pop by itself if you give it time although it will probably tear. Raja puri's in particular are prone to this. I had to give mine a gentle tug or open up the inside of the petiole by hand a few times to get them unstuck. It didn't cause any real troubles though.

I am with Bob on this.
RJ are prune to this and I don't think the steer manure is the culprit.
All the bananas LOVE steer manure and they are very happy with it as Joe Real told me.
Give it a tug or tear it a little if you have to. In half a day or so it will straighten itself out.

jen · 09-02-2009, 08:10 PM

Okay here is the picture. It has another leaf inside of it. In the first picture you can see the curled up leaf between two and follow it down and you can see where there is another one. then the second is a close up of where the other leaf is inside. The curling you see in the second picture is the second (possible flag) leaf and the one it's tucked in is the long curled up one. It looks like it's uncurling before the long one. I'm so very excited and I hope it's my flag leaf and not two deformed ones.

I hope all that makes sense.

The Hollyberry Lady · 09-02-2009, 08:57 PM

As I am brand new to banana growing, may I ask what is a 'flag' leaf?

: )

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