SOS: HOA wants my banana TREES removed - Page 2

Caline · 02-13-2017, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HMelendez

Lydie,

I'm sorry for the situation with your HOA!....Hopefully you have the opportunity to harvest the fruits!....Thanks God I don't have HOA in my community!....

If you are not authorized to trans-plant them in a different spot (permanent spot) in your yard and you want to keep the plants, consider trans-planting them in pots!....Since they will be in pots would be much easier for you "to move them around" in different spots on your property! (you get the idea!).....

Yes, that could be a plan. thanks

Caline · 02-13-2017, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kaczercat

Because of one new person? What do they do, walk around the neighbourhood with a vest on looking for things they don't like? lmao! Someone not liking something has nothing to do with the law right?. I don't see why you should comply. If there are overhead wires, height restrictions that's different. But not because they don't like the apearence of something that's not on the city's property.

Yes, it is very frustrating. I ask myself. Do these plants obstruct someone else view?, No. Do they block their right of way or thru passage?. No. Are they hazardous, about to fall on someone? No. Are they ill-kempt and unsightly? No (that was the only stipulation in approval, that I maintain the lanscaping. ) Do they in any way cause harm or prejudice to others? No.

Lydie

Snarkie · 02-13-2017, 03:26 PM

If they were already approved, how in the hell can they "un-approve" them?!

All it would take is a quick definition from an expert to explain that these are plants, and not trees.

Caline · 02-13-2017, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Snarkie

Which is exactly why they need to be abolished. I'm convinced most HOA board members are told what to do by their wives, and this is their one little grab at power.

Actually this HOA is told what to do and what to vote by the Property Management company who does the books. But that's another subject.

For now I'm letting my bananas ripe. We need 85-90ª weather for that and it doesn't look like we're getting any soon.

Caline · 02-13-2017, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard

Typically they follow recommendations from the property management company they've hired for maintenance, accounting, etc. In this case it might be that the landscapers did not want to work around and/or maintain a banana plant.

Good point, however,in this case the board requires I maintain the bananas along with the rest as a condition to approval of my lanscaping project. The landscaping company has no interaction with any of my plants.

Snarkie · 02-13-2017, 03:34 PM

When they ripen, you should make an offering by shoving one up each and every HOA and property management's tailpipe.

sputinc7 · 02-13-2017, 03:46 PM

If it was approved, and since bananas are not trees, I would submit it to the board and fight it. They are in the wrong here. But, that's just me.
Some people will bully you and push you as far as you will allow. Don't fight now, they will start in again with something else. Defend yourself.

Caline · 02-13-2017, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by edwmax

I wasn't going to comment, but ....

One I would review the HOA Landscaping requirements and the terms of your deed.

Two, determine why the banana plants are not allowed. Was it because they simple were not listed on the 2015 approved landscaping plan; or do they not meet other landscaping requirements. Is there an oversight remedy for over looked plants that would have otherwise been approved.

Three, was this HOA committee action or result of a complaint from one owner?

Four, I would request copies of the landscaping plans of the neighbors. Then see if their yards meet all HOA requirements. (which I doubt) Make complaints against them too. Especially, the Owner that complained about your bananas.

If you can stir up enough of the owners, then you might be able to get a landscaping requirements changed and/or approval for your plants. ... This is a situation where some tend to 'bluff' the requirements to get their way or make themselves a 'big-shot' in the HOA. So know exactly what the requirements are; and question the HOA why you are being single out when other owners do not meet the same requirements.

You have laid out a very good plan.
It's worth at least take a look at it.

You are absolutely right about other neighbors non compliance. Over the weekend my camera finger was itching to take pics of BBQs too close to structures, (fire code) canoes, paddleboards etc. stored on front lawns (not allowed) two storey tall trees just 12" from structures. shrubbery also too close to structures(against code), dead potted plants decoratiing patios.

Caline · 02-13-2017, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Snarkie

If they were already approved, how in the hell can they "un-approve" them?!

All it would take is a quick definition from an expert to explain that these are plants, and not trees.

Yes, rather ominous. I'm thinking what next.
I could wikipedia them about bananas being herbaceous. LOL

Snarkie · 02-13-2017, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Caline

Yes, rather ominous. I'm thinking what next.
I could wikipedia them about bananas being herbaceous. LOL

That may be all it takes. They can't argue with proof.

Last year, I was contacted by a doctor in Exton, PA about some dawn redwoods that were going to be cut down by a developer. The town "expert" refused to acknowledge these trees once grew here and were therefore, native. After several emails detailing my evidence that M occidentalis and glyptostroboides are in fact, the same tree, along with threats to have demonstrators show up and chain themselves to the trees and have the local news there to report (luckily, I'm a writer as well), they relented and publicly recognized the dawn redwood as a native tree to PA. This sets an important precedent.

Now, all you need is someone who knows bananas like I know dawn redwoods (and this site is full of them), and you're all set to get an expert opinion.

HMelendez · 02-13-2017, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Snarkie

When they ripen, you should make an offering by shoving one up each and every HOA and property management's tailpipe.

LMAO!.......Snarkinator strikes again!.....LOL!......

Richard · 02-13-2017, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by edwmax

I would request copies of the landscaping plans of the neighbors. Then see if their yards meet all HOA requirements. (which I doubt) Make complaints against them too.

This might be exactly what is driving the owner that made the complaint about your banana!

Caline · 02-13-2017, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sputinc7

If it was approved, and since bananas are not trees, I would submit it to the board and fight it. They are in the wrong here. But, that's just me.
Some people will bully you and push you as far as you will allow. Don't fight now, they will start in again with something else. Defend yourself.

Yes, What next. That's what makes me hesitate to just pot the bananas or make some kind of rebuttal.
Another detail, in the letter to comply, they speak of "recent tree plantings" when in fact they have been in the ground visibly growing for over a year. I don't know what the legal defintion of recent is, but I wonder.

Of course the letter was not certified or anything so I figure I have at least a week to mull things over before acting on the letter.

As I always tell people. No need to look for "drama and excitement", it will come to you, just wait.

Caline · 02-13-2017, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard

This might be exactly what is driving the owner that made the complaint about your banana!

Who knows, it appears they are the busybody type.
I learned that the same newbies recently had the Board send a letter to cease and desist to another owner about his birdfeeder (prohibited also).

edwmax · 02-13-2017, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Caline

You have laid out a very good plan.
It's worth at least take a look at it.

You are absolutely right about other neighbors non compliance. Over the weekend my camera finger was itching to take pics of BBQs too close to structures, (fire code) canoes, paddleboards etc. stored on front lawns (not allowed) two storey tall trees just 12" from structures. shrubbery also too close to structures(against code), dead potted plants decoratiing patios.

Then I feel you should make a written reply to the HOA that the 2015 project was and is in full compliance with the approved plan. The banana plants were a part of the project as 'native Florida plants'. ... Then proceed to show the non-compliance of the other home owners; more especially if one is on the HOA board. ...You should have a vote either to election of 'Board Directors' or at Board Meetings.

Richard · 02-13-2017, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Caline

Who knows, it appears they are the busybody type.
I learned that the same newbies recently had the Board send a letter to cease and desist to another owner about his birdfeeder (prohibited also).

A hard way to learn about HOA's.

Snarkie · 02-13-2017, 04:22 PM

This seems to be a very popular thread/topic. I guess I'm not the only one with animosity toward self-contrived authority (or authority in general).

edwmax · 02-13-2017, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Caline

Who knows, it appears they are the busybody type.
I learned that the same newbies recently had the Board send a letter to cease and desist to another owner about his birdfeeder (prohibited also).

It's these 'newbies' that's bucking to get on the board. Then they will be running your life when they do.

A poem by Martin Niemöller:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Snarkie · 02-13-2017, 06:12 PM

We need to make that work here...

First they came for the bananas, and I did not speak up because I didn't eat bananas.

Then they came for the bird watchers, but I did not speak up because I was not a bird watcher.

Then they came for organic gardeners, and I did not speak up because I was not a hippie.

Then they came for me, and my cat shot their ass.

edwmax · 02-13-2017, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Caline

Who knows, it appears they are the busybody type.
I learned that the same newbies recently had the Board send a letter to cease and desist to another owner about his birdfeeder (prohibited also).

What the h''ll wrong with a Bird Feeder? These poor little birds need to eat too. And they make nice music; little babies in the trees; eat mosquitoes.

I'm with you and DA. I have 14 cat and 6 big birds to sic on them.

Let's roll!

Borrowed without permission.

02-13-2017, 03:26 PM	#23 (permalink)
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Snarkie The Cat Whisperer Location: Charlotte, NC Zone: 8b, pushing 9a Name: D.A. Hänks Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 2,119 BananaBucks : 189,962 Feedback: 5 / 100% Said "Thanks" 1,218 Times Was Thanked 1,976 Times in 1,145 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,049 Times	Re: SOS: HOA wants my banana TREES removed When they ripen, you should make an offering by shoving one up each and every HOA and property management's tailpipe. __________________ Doug (D.A. Hänks) http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2955582/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1 The Only Eastern Redwood Forest in America "Nuke my 'nanners, will you?!"

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Snarkie The Cat Whisperer Location: Charlotte, NC Zone: 8b, pushing 9a Name: D.A. Hänks Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 2,119 BananaBucks : 189,962 Feedback: 5 / 100% Said "Thanks" 1,218 Times Was Thanked 1,976 Times in 1,145 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,049 Times	Re: SOS: HOA wants my banana TREES removed This seems to be a very popular thread/topic. I guess I'm not the only one with animosity toward self-contrived authority (or authority in general). __________________ Doug (D.A. Hänks) http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2955582/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1 The Only Eastern Redwood Forest in America "Nuke my 'nanners, will you?!"

02-13-2017, 06:12 PM	#39 (permalink)
Snarkie The Cat Whisperer Location: Charlotte, NC Zone: 8b, pushing 9a Name: D.A. Hänks Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 2,119 BananaBucks : 189,962 Feedback: 5 / 100% Said "Thanks" 1,218 Times Was Thanked 1,976 Times in 1,145 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,049 Times	Re: SOS: HOA wants my banana TREES removed We need to make that work here... First they came for the bananas, and I did not speak up because I didn't eat bananas. Then they came for the bird watchers, but I did not speak up because I was not a bird watcher. Then they came for organic gardeners, and I did not speak up because I was not a hippie. Then they came for me, and my cat shot their ass. __________________ Doug (D.A. Hänks) http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2955582/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1 The Only Eastern Redwood Forest in America "Nuke my 'nanners, will you?!"

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