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Old 07-26-2009, 02:45 PM   #121 (permalink)
 
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With all the 110+ degree days and the last 4 nights of dust/wind storms my large original nanner looks pretty ragged. All the leaves are browned and frayed. In fact no new leaves have emerged in weeks. Its about 13 feet tall (Ice Cream). Hopefully its not on its last legs. All its pups (about 7) seem ok, a little wilted but contining to grow. Any of you other Arizonans having the same issues?

During the monsoon winds, it shredded the emerging leaves a little, but there was no big problem. My Goldfinger leaves browned a little, but the pups look ok and the leaves keep coming about once a week. I had no problems with my ice cream, the leaves are barely shredded and no browning at all.
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My experience since moving to Las Vegas one year ago: Everything died except (oddly) an Ensete glaucum. Which, surprisingly, is doing quite well. I moved into a house several months back and have been working on installing drip and drought-tolerant landscape. I reserved the most protected section of the yard for marginal palms and bananas!! So in the next month, i'll be ordering some bananas!!! I was thinking maybe 'ice cream', 'orinoco', 'mysore'... but still need to go back over this (and other) threads.. Anyways, i'm very excited to start up again
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long time no hear my friend! let me know i mite have a pup or two i have a cupal of Bananas that are in desprit need of a home i just dont have room and scot gave them to me they need planted today or tomarw if there going to live
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I just cut off the large dying leaves on my large original plant, so there are just 3 very brown ragged ones remaining. Not sure if its going to die or not. Perhaps because I did not weed back any pups its not getting enough nutrition? I water heavily and give fertilizer regularly. At least there are some big pups, some over 6' tall ready to takes moms place
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Mom should come back, just do not cut off any green. Pups had nothing to do with moms burnt leaves, it was lack of water on those 4 days of 115 starting on July 10. I was out of town then but got back to yellow burnt bananas. They all just started to put out normal leafs again. Monday was 114, and yesterday was 115 so I hope you are putting down extra water.

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Mom should come back, just do not cut off any green. Pups had nothing to do with moms burnt leaves, it was lack of water on those 4 days of 115 starting on July 10. I was out of town then but got back to yellow burnt bananas. They all just started to put out normal leafs again. Monday was 114, and yesterday was 115 so I hope you are putting down extra water.

O and if you ever need more bananas let me know, I have too many.
Thanks Gadget. I have 3 drips on the plants that run for 90 min a day, I check each day and the ground is always moist. Maybe I should reposition the emitters, maybe some areas are not covered well enough. I will also run the hose and give a good soak tonight. I may take you up on your offer to take some plants from you, I dont think I will mid-summer as it may be too much of a shock re-planting them, perhaps this fall? What kind do you have? I only have the ice cream as I am new to the banana game. I will update this post on how my big guy is doing. Thanks again!
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Y'all out in the desert need to keep the temperature thing in check - plants in the sun get anywhere from 20 to 40 degrees higher temperatures of heat than what the "temperature" is. In SE Louisiana it commonly gets into the 120s and 130s in the sun, with the measured temperatures going between 92 and 99 degrees and heat indices in the low 100s. We've had days of the temperature being 101 to 104 before but talk with any meteorologist - they'll tell you it's much hotter in the sun. Into the 160s on a roof.

I have my yard on a timer with a Melnor oscillating sprinker (on the roof of the door entry to my studio so it covers more area) connected to a Melnor two zoned timer. When we get zero to 30% chance of rain I have it water for an hour every morning from around 6 or 7 AM. When we get 30% to 40% chance of rain I drop it to a half hour. We're getting decent rain as of late so I have it down to 1 minute a day right now. Everything gets full sun plus the humidity is very high in the morning and by afternoon it settles down to around 50%, which is still quite dry. This starts in mid April or early May, depending on what the global weather pattern is doing (it didn't get 'the usual' here until mid May this year, usually it's between Jazz Fest weekends that it cranks up for summer), and goes until mid October in general. Right about October 15th the switch is thrown and everything cools down and gets dry, with the highest humidity being maybe 50%.

For summer I've figured that an hour of watering equals about a 1/4 inch of rain (not exactly sure but it's similar to what happens when it does rain 1/4 an hour) - just enough for the plants to not stress out (unless they are in containers). When it's cooler out, around 88 to 92, the water gets a chance to soak in. When it's over 92, it dries out fast. I do let the plants get less water occasionally, stressing them, so that when they do get more water they have a growth spurt.

Just to clarify, I'm not confusing this with heat index either.

All my bananas except the Sabas seem to grow quite fast. For whatever reason the Sabas are just super slow.
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Thanks Gadget. I have 3 drips on the plants that run for 90 min a day, I check each day and the ground is always moist. Maybe I should reposition the emitters, maybe some areas are not covered well enough. I will also run the hose and give a good soak tonight. I may take you up on your offer to take some plants from you, I dont think I will mid-summer as it may be too much of a shock re-planting them, perhaps this fall? What kind do you have? I only have the ice cream as I am new to the banana game. I will update this post on how my big guy is doing. Thanks again!
I transplanted 9 bananas last week and all are doing great I also put in 20 papayas that where doing great until yesterday with it being warm and windy, I think I am going to lose at least 10 of them. Most of my plants are collected so I have no idea what they are.
But Here is my list of known bananas
DCD, Rajapuri, Goldfinger, Saba, Cardoba, Hawaiian apple, Orinoco, D Orinoco, Basjoo, Siam ruby, Mysore, Zebrina, Misi luki.

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Mom should come back, just do not cut off any green. Pups had nothing to do with moms burnt leaves, it was lack of water on those 4 days of 115 starting on July 10. I was out of town then but got back to yellow burnt bananas. They all just started to put out normal leafs again. Monday was 114, and yesterday was 115 so I hope you are putting down extra water.

O and if you ever need more bananas let me know, I have too many.
Gadget, after I started watering extra each evening with the hose, a new leaf is sprouting! Thanks for the extra watering tip. Looks like momma plant is going to survive!
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hey guys i thought you mite like a report or a picture of the Musa Bell that i drove home in my little sports car i planted it it look kinda ruff but when i was depotting it i noted that its roots had died back in the past but i wasn't to concerned as it was showing some good signs of new root growth it is a bite piqued which is concerning as i hit it with some K-mag and kelp extract along with some super good microsomal so i think it would have greened up a bit more but all wait and see its 107 here and nun of the Bananas are growing that fast and they all look a bit yellow except the dwarf Brazilian which tolerates the heat the best



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The Brazilian is looking great!! I just planted a cardaba in an area protected from the scorching sun and dry winds. Crossing my fingers...
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The Brazilian is looking great!! I just planted a cardaba in an area protected from the scorching sun and dry winds. Crossing my fingers...
i don't grow that variety so I'm not sure how well it will do iv found that the Sun isn't that much of a problem after they get use to it but Lord only knows if they will adapted before they burn up iv lost a few this year and last the best so far are mostly the common every day harder types like Blue Java, Brazilian, my Ae Ae is doing good if a bit tattered looking right now Yangambi Km5 and HY Brazilian china golden lotus looks awesome i think i have a picture of that one i took yesterday all post it to



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WOW, the Chinese yellow is looking excellent as well!! I'll probably making an order tonight for 3-4 plants. I'm thinking about getting Brazillian, Saba, Raja Puri, and Orinoco. What do you think... good choices? Probably buying from Going Bananas unless I find a better source. Mysore and Red Iholena are on standby.
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i have an exstra chines golden lotus if you want it come get it its in a 10" pot
its an extra not as big as the one in the pic but I'm sure with care it will get there
Saba i think will wilt in the sun here yes its cold hardy but most of the super Hardy's don't do well here its not that cold i have a 20gal pond that never freezes and its not moving water just standing Rajah I'm not sure but if yours dose well all buy a pup from you when it comes time i think the Orinoco will die Scot had two and they both bit the big one but that could have been from neglect he had an offal lot on his plate defantly the brazillian they seem to do vary well here . as pups come avalibal i could be perswaded to give you some but most of them arnt the ones you have metioned all defantly have ice cream pups buy spring mabe a bell yangambi o and i have an exstreamly rare banana caled an HY Brazilian thers only 3 in the US and i had 2 of them its to young to pup but its sapose do be super hardy it doing well dosint mind the heat as long as you water it 2 a day this will be its first winter so all let you know all have abacinean in the spring too o and if you want a plantain i have an absalutley gorges monte cristo has the most butiful radeal placment to the leafs almost looks man made pups in the spring on it well hope that helps
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its an extra not as big as the one in the pic but I'm sure with care it will get there
Saba i think will wilt in the sun here yes its cold hardy but most of the super Hardy's don't do well here its not that cold i have a 20gal pond that never freezes and its not moving water just standing Rajah I'm not sure but if yours dose well all buy a pup from you when it comes time i think the Orinoco will die Scot had two and they both bit the big one but that could have been from neglect he had an offal lot on his plate defantly the brazillian they seem to do vary well here . as pups come avalibal i could be perswaded to give you some but most of them arnt the ones you have metioned all defantly have ice cream pups buy spring mabe a bell yangambi o and i have an exstreamly rare banana caled an HY Brazilian thers only 3 in the US and i had 2 of them its to young to pup but its sapose do be super hardy it doing well dosint mind the heat as long as you water it 2 a day this will be its first winter so all let you know all have abacinean in the spring too o and if you want a plantain i have an absalutley gorges monte cristo has the most butiful radeal placment to the leafs almost looks man made pups in the spring on it well hope that helps
I finally understood ALL the words you wrote (yangambi, abacinean...). No problem from now on.
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Finally getting some bananas growing! I've been very surprised how well the Ensete glaucum is doing. It really took off as soon as I added drip irrigation. The banana on the left is a cardaba. It has been in the ground for maybe 3 weeks and is pushing out it's 4th new leaf.



I ordered some bananas from Stokes Tropicals and received them last week. I planted them directly in the ground in 105F heat and they are doing great. Most already have their first leaves out.

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How are everyones desert bananas doing? My Ensete glaucum has really taken off this month (compare to the post above). September seems to be a good time for bananas in Vegas.

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