Gros Michel - Page 10

harveyc · 02-13-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenFin

Just heard back from Agri-Starts:

What are others' thoughts on this reply?

What are the odds that the USDA's Gros Michel is indeed Gros Michel? Is the USDA ultra reliable? I would think/hope so, but I have no experience in these matters.

It is hard to say. The Senorita that USDA has is taller than what the Filipino immigrants say and Gabe once wrote to me in a PM that they probably have some mislabeled plants. In many cases, the USDA obtained them from private party donations and those could have been incorrectly identified.

Did they say anything about having photos available?

GreenFin · 02-13-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by harveyc

Did they say anything about having photos available?

Just what you see in the quote (I quoted the whole body of the email).

venturabananas · 02-13-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by harveyc

It is hard to say. The Senorita that USDA has is taller than what the Filipino immigrants say and Gabe once wrote to me in a PM that they probably have some mislabeled plants. In many cases, the USDA obtained them from private party donations and those could have been incorrectly identified.

Did they say anything about having photos available?

If you search the USDA site, you can find photos of their Gros Michel. I'm no expert, but it looks like the real deal from what I know. So, if Agri-starts got their material from USDA and there were no mix ups at either place, I think you'd get the right plant.

GreenFin · 02-13-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by venturabananas

If you search the USDA site, you can find photos of their Gros Michel. I'm no expert, but it looks like the real deal from what I know. So, if Agri-starts got their material from USDA and there were no mix ups at either place, I think you'd get the right plant.

Good thought.

I've started searching through the usda's site, but every search I try yields no results. Will you please post the link to their pic of Gros Michel?

harveyc · 02-13-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenFin

Good thought.

I've started searching through the usda's site, but every search I try yields no results. Will you please post the link to their pic of Gros Michel?

Ask Gabe to check out the photos, he's an expert in ID. I'm not.

harveyc · 02-13-2012, 06:06 PM

I think it's probably worth a shot but would check with Gabe first. Maybe Sandy would be interested in ordering all of them with the knowledge that several members would probably be interested buyers. It would probably be her most popular banana for 2012.

harveyc · 02-13-2012, 06:08 PM

I need to give credit to Tony for the idea of Sandy's recruitment. He mentioned it last week.

By the way, I think your idea of growing bananas horizontally in your short tunnel in Kansas is quite interesting and probably very challenging. Good luck!

GreenFin · 02-13-2012, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by harveyc

By the way, I think your idea of growing bananas horizontally in your short tunnel in Kansas is quite interesting and probably very challenging. Good luck!

Thanks

Hopefully I'll have a bigger one soon with a 12' roof. If not, things are going to get out of control in a big hurry in the little one.

Gabe15 · 02-14-2012, 01:53 AM

The photos above from the USDA are the real 'Gros Michel'.

harveyc · 02-14-2012, 02:18 AM

Thanks, Gabe!

Yug · 03-14-2012, 04:46 PM

Still growing well, leaves about 3 times bigger.

GreenFin · 03-14-2012, 05:00 PM

I love the coloration on the pseudostem and petioles of the GM subgroup.

TommyMacLuckie · 05-05-2012, 11:28 AM

Great pics! Thanks!

DoctorSteve · 05-05-2012, 01:36 PM

I love the color of the fruit flesh.

Yug · 06-03-2012, 08:29 PM

Update - my Gros Michel 'Cocos' has a p-stem barely 4 ft high, and a 3 in pup! I think it's going to make it. I can never really be sure until I see the first pup.

Yug · 07-25-2012, 06:46 AM

Update - still growing well. P-stem about 4 ft, and has 3 pups.

Pretty good size, but still young.

Love the colors.

Two pups visible in the photo, but actually has 3. (cheson74 paying attention?)

dkf85281 · 07-25-2012, 09:40 PM

Hi, the gros Michel looks like a fairly large plant. Does anyone know how long each branch grows? I'd like to know if I have enough room in my back yard and how far I need to plant it from the property line.

thanks!
dean

venturabananas · 07-26-2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dkf85281

Hi, the gros Michel looks like a fairly large plant. Does anyone know how long each branch grows? I'd like to know if I have enough room in my back yard and how far I need to plant it from the property line.

It is a big plant, getting up to 15-20' to the top of the pseudostem ("trunk") and another 10' beyond that to the top of the leaves. Each "branch" (which is actually a leaf) is about 10' long on a mature plant. There are dwarf versions of Gros Michel. All varieties are very susceptible to fusarium wilt (Panama disease).

dkf85281 · 07-26-2012, 09:56 PM

thanks ventura! do you know if the leaves of the dwarf varieties grow to 10 feet long also?

sunfish · 07-26-2012, 10:08 PM

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