Richard

Blake, Glui Kai is a synonym of Kluai Khai. It is from New Guinea, so the cold hardiness is likely at least zone 10. Also, note that Agristarts sells plants 72 at a time and you'll need a resale license.

My experience is 2 months, not 2 years.

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Blake09

What if I wasent going to re-sell them...? I did not know that I thought that they sold plants for people not to busnesses. Any thing els about Agristarts that I need to know?

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Richard

Doesn't matter. They don't want to deal with tax and so they require all their buyers to have a resale license. They also have minimum order requirements (1 tray) and fees for mixing varieties on a tray. See their website for more details, or send your sales rep (see top of their availability web page) an email.

Agri-Starts, Inc. - Availability

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Abnshrek

Well Mr. Richard I was referring to not just growth but the plant being able to deal with a frost and not die. I believe Mr. Blake is in Zone 7 and the last thing someone wants to do is loose plants unless its an informed decision and you can live with it. I think Mr. Jimmy says that " they can live or die". Like nature intended as per dealing with cold temps. Me I say screw Jack Frost I have something for him... lol I know this kinda off topic but no one knows what zone (k)Glui Khai is really zoned for..

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Clare_CA

This banana seems to be all over Thailand and perhaps other parts of Asia. My guess is that it is only hardy to Zone 10. I wouldn't accept any banana as hardy to colder zones unless it is well-documented that it can survive in lower zones. I know that some businesses have the hardiness of each banana available in their online catalogs, which is helpful.

Clare_CA

Here's an interesting link about extending your zone: The Cutting Edge - A Spray to Change Your Hardiness Zone?

BadPun

Thought y'all might find this interesting, was searching around google for Kluai Khai and found this article:

Improvement and Production of Banana Kluai Khai Group Through Biotechnology
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache...ient=firefox-a

Some highlights:

Transplanting medium. Growth of Kluai Khai fron tissue culture after transplanting to soil mixture of coconut fiber : sand : organic matter : cow manure : soil in the ratio of 1:1:0.5:0.5 was the best compare to the other formulars.
Now, where to buy coconut fiber...

Study on fertlizer application. Growth of Kluai Nom Sao in the field with weekly application of 0.2% urea was better than the 0.5% potassium nitrate application and water application.
So... pee in a bucket, dilute and apply?

Andy

Clare_CA

Coconut fiber or coir is found in pet stores, I'm told. I recently got some blocks at Costco of all places (see pic below). I planted all my adeniums in half coconut coir chunks and half potting soil. It drains really well. I also have purchased the fiber from Western Farm Service in Oxnard by the bale, but I prefer the chips to the fiber. It did not, however, dry out fast enough for my AeAe's, which died in it, but that was probably my fault for watering too much. It should be rinsed prior to use to avoid any salt.

Richard

I'd never use Coir straight -- unless planting something like swamp cypress. As a mix, the ground Coir in the bricks is much better than coarse chips. You should be able to purchase it from an agricultural supplier (not a retail nursery) for about $6 per 1/2 cubic foot brick.

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BadPun

Any idea where to find one in Ventura County or surrounding counties?

Clare_CA

Andy, try a pet supply store. Someone over at Dave's told me "You can get coir at any petstore. I buy it at Petsmart. It's used for bedding of small animals. It's sold by brick and is not expensive."

There are also bricks for sale over at Dave's Garden Marketplace: Searching Dave's Garden

I know this guy is reputable: Coconut Coir - Instagarden His name is Boca Bob, and he is selling on the Dave's Garden Marketplace also.

I think it's also sold on Ebay.

You could try Western Farm Service in Oxnard. I know they have the fiber coir for sure. It has a lot of peaty texture to it as well.

Richard

Note that Western Farm Service recently changed their name to "Crop Production Services".

Another place to try in Oxnard is "American Horticulture Supply". I buy my bricks from their San Diego area outlet.

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Clare_CA

Oh, you're right. I forgot. Silly me:-) Thanks for the tip about AHS. Can you tell about how much they charge for their retail prices per brick?

BadPun

Awesome! Thanks for the heads up

Andy

sunfish

Even the usually all green Glui Kai gets wine markings

Frank Westenberg

Hi everyone!

For some time I have been searching for this banana species I ate (and loved) in Thailand, and I managed to find the name and all. Only thing I can't find is where I can buy seeds, or be sure it is the right one. I found a supplier in my country (Netherlands) selling "Musa acuminata subsp. acuminata". I requested some origin info, to which the reply roughly translates to "I'm not sure, it probably came from indonesia a long time ago". This could either mean the species originates from there say decades ago, or the seeds are just old. Anyone able to help me out on this one? Thanks in advance!

Abnshrek

No, such thing as seeds for this one..

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Frank Westenberg

Oh ok, I thought that was about a different kind of plant. Thanks for the quick response. So I'd have to find a way to import a live tropical plant into the European Union... Pity, if that's even possible it'll be darn expensive.