unidentified banana

Gabe15 · 10-22-2009, 01:37 AM

Musa velutina or Musa dasycarpa (they are synonyms but the former is its better known name). The name M. dasycarpa I think will be (or already has been) discarded...I still have to track down and read the most recent paper on this.

jon · 10-22-2009, 09:29 AM

cool thanks gabe

Bananaman88 · 10-22-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Gabe15

Musa velutina or Musa dasycarpa (they are synonyms but the former is its better known name). The name M. dasycarpa I think will be (or already has been) discarded...I still have to track down and read the most recent paper on this.

I thought it was the other way around; that velutina was going to be discarded since it was first named as dasycarpa.

LilRaverBoi · 10-22-2009, 01:17 PM

Yup yup....Musa Dasycarpa.

Gabe15 · 10-22-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bananaman88

I thought it was the other way around; that velutina was going to be discarded since it was first named as dasycarpa.

In 1865 a new banana species was found and named Musa dasycarpa, however it was described very poorly. In 1875, someone found another new banana species and named it M. velutina and described it very well. In 1893, when a taxonomist was trying to organize the genus, he decided that M. velutina was a valid species and since the description of M. dasycarpa was so poor, he did not regard it as a valid species. In 1949 it was realized that they are in fact the same plant, but since M. velutina had the better description, nothing was done to really look into it too much and the name M. velutina kept on being used as it had been. Recently, it has come to attention that the name M. dasycarpa, although originally very poorly described, was officially adequate and since it was published first it technically has priority, and a paper was published to make this fact known. However, even more recently a proposal has been made to keep on using the name M. velutina because it is already so well known and accepted.

IngentaConnect (1903) Proposal to conserve the name Musa velutina against M. das...

Youngbb · 10-23-2009, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Gabe15

In 1865 a new banana species was found and named Musa dasycarpa, however it was described very poorly. In 1875, someone found another new banana species and named it M. velutina and described it very well. In 1893, when a taxonomist was trying to organize the genus, he decided that M. velutina was a valid species and since the description of M. dasycarpa was so poor, he did not regard it as a valid species. In 1949 it was realized that they are in fact the same plant, but since M. velutina had the better description, nothing was done to really look into it too much and the name M. velutina kept on being used as it had been. Recently, it has come to attention that the name M. dasycarpa, although originally very poorly described, was officially adequate and since it was published first it technically has priority, and a paper was published to make this fact known. However, even more recently a proposal has been made to keep on using the name M. velutina because it is already so well known and accepted.

IngentaConnect (1903) Proposal to conserve the name Musa velutina against M. das...

This is very interesting!

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