Richard

It's the primary advice given to potato growers.

A $12 box of prilled sulfur seems like an inexpensive trial.

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sputinc7

Yes, it does... Will try. Like this? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VU3KGT6...a-309383316708

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Varieties I supposedly bought: Manzano, Cavendish, Blue Java, Sweetheart, and Gros Michel.
What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

sputinc7

Or might this be better? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074N5VXL8...&pd_rd_w=GkZwo

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What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

Richard

No. You want a box or bag from a manufacturer with application instructions. Your goal is to bring the pH down to 6.0 in your banana bed. You will probably have to reapply every six months. Be aware that sulfur takes up to 3 months to break down, so don't jump the gun and reapply too early.

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Okay. I had about 5 lbs of this left and used the rest on all my bananas, 12 in all, but a couple are bigger mats. I watered it in a little. We will see. I spread it out in about 6 feet diameter around all of them concentrating more near the corm and gradually getting thinner as you move outward.
https://www.amazon.com/Espoma-GSUL6-...M75RB0FNHNB08H
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. I remember when I first got it because I thought it was a fungal issue related to the massive alkalinity of the soil and my well water. I put some around the plants and I remember it did help some for a while, like a month or two, maybe. the package instructions state: "apply 12 lbs per 100 square feet for each one point reduction in soil pH desired. For heavy clay soils increase rate to 15 lbs, so I don't think I overdid it... I figure I covered 280 sq ft or so with about 5 lbs. I am more concerned about chasing away nematodes than raising the Ph.

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Varieties I supposedly bought: Manzano, Cavendish, Blue Java, Sweetheart, and Gros Michel.
What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

Richard

For a 280 sq.ft. area the dosage to drop 1 pt in pH would be:
280 x 12/100 = 33.6 lbs.
To get your soil into an effective range (pH 6) against nematodes you would need about 67 lbs.

Look at it this way:
Suppose you are bitten by a poisonous snake. The Paramedics show up with the antidote. Do you want the 1/10th dosage or the full dosage?

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I know I need more but it also says not to do it all at once so as to not shock the plants. When putting it on, though it seems like a lot. If I put on that much fertilizer it would kill everything.

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What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

Richard

Sigh.

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sputinc7

A condescending sigh? Now what? First off, it was all I had. Second off, that is what the instructions said. I am not a chemical engineer but it seems to me that too much at once could be bad... You told me to get something with instructions, now complain when I follow them?
I appreciate your help, and I hope it works. Sometimes you can be so much help, but sometimes.... Like I said, we are not all chemical engineers. You would be more helpful if you remembered that.

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What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

sputinc7

The sigh was no help at all.

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Botanical_Bryce

The sigh is how someone who thinks they have superior intelligence addresses those below them. The irony I find is that you are talking to a guy who can't get a mysore larger than 7 foot tall. I have fought nematodes for many years. The acid theory is a total myth being the most acid part of my property is the main part with nematodes mainly just flowers over on that part I don't care about. Nematodes dominate within the top 12 inches of soil. They like fine particles that are easy to travel through. I always remove as much sand as possible and replace it with organic material and biochar. I have just started adding vermiculite. If you do some research on endomycorhizae you will see that it has the ability to catch and choke a large number of nematodes and it seals and protects the roots. Removing native soil around the plants, adding course materials like biochar and vermiculite to organics and using high quality mycorhizae I would challenge anyone to come and see root knots on my bananas. I get so much growth that soon I will be throwing plants away soon from just having so many suckers. It sucks to do but the sand needs dug out.

sputinc7

Allright... I found some evidence to back you up as well... Sounds like a winner winner chicken dinner!!!
https://link.springer.com/article/10...:1026150917522
Now, where do I buy innoculants? I can look, but you use them so I can only assume you have a source...

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What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

Richard

Today.

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I use a product called mykos. Comes from a company that sends it fresh. That is important since it is not stable outside of root systems. Products that have it added I don't trust because mixing it with nitrates and moisture I am sure that it ensures it is dead in those products. IMO it is most effective on healthier root systems so the organic materials are important for beneficial fungus in general. I hope that helps you.

Richard

progress ...

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sputinc7

My 3640 is almost exactly in the same place right now, but it looks different... I will try to remember to get a pic tomorrow...

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What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

edwmax

https://www.motherearthnews.com/orga...rhiza-zbcz1403

or

https://www.smilinggardener.com/sale...izae-for-sale/

and/or

amend your soil with compost and manure to promote growing the bacteria and fungi already present.

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I just took this pic this morning. From underneath is the only clear shot on account of all the leaves. It's leaning some compared to yesterday. It's ready to drop and pop. Can't wait.

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What it seems I actually have: Brazilian, Cavendish, Namwah, Dwarf Red, Gros Michel, Pisang Ceylon, Veinte Cohol and SH 3640, and American Goldfinger. FHIA 1, Paggi and FHIA 17... Always room for one more.

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npk of banana leaf ash 1.75/0.75/0.5

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Looking good Richard!....

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