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Tytaylor77 · 02-13-2018, 01:08 AM

I 100% agree with Paco! And to further confuse things I will add more from what I’ve researched! I’ve been fairly obsessed with finding the real AA Lakatan! Here is what my research shows!

There is a true Lakatan from the Philippines and it is grown all over SE Asia! Getting the real deal is another story! It shocks me this banana is not grown here and is not popular! Everyone who has eaten it says it’s their favorite sweet banana! But it is nowhere here! Been trying and Still trying! There is 2 forms of Asia Lakatan! One grows to be around 10’-11’ other grows to be taller. Around 16’. One is called Berangan Kuning and the other Berangan Merah! In other countries they have different names and even to make it worse LOCAL names! They can also be called The Cici banana. Buluñgan, Balañgon, Lakatan, or Lacatan! And all these names are only in the Philippines! Lol.

Next there is the issue of AA vs AAA. Most everyone considers it an AA. The real one. Now professionals are saying it is an AAA type! This info comes from several sources including a friend I have who works with Musa at KU Leuven. As of now I am 99% convinced the real Lakatan is AAA!!

I have over 100 varieties. Do I have the real one? I don’t know! I have tried and spent quite a lot to acquire it! The closest I have came to getting it is my direct import from Cambodia. It was taken from a field owned by a small town fruit vender at a local market! He told my source to go here and dig here for a Cambodian Egg Banana! Well after flowering I contacted him again and he asked the owner of the field. The owner grows 4 types! Cambodian Egg banana, Musa Lakatan, and 2 local types named after local names! All grown there are commercial bananas for sale in the marketplace!

In my opinion and most I have talked to say it is an AAA type. I have had 3-4 contacts from Asia tell me it looks a lot like the real Lakatan. I’ve had 2 people whom I consider Musa experts tell me it could be the real Lakatan. I’ve had 1 Expert say it may be a type of GM. So what do I have! Look at my pictures on Flickr below. I put them in the “maybe Lakatan” folder. It flowered around 9’-10’ this was its first year in the ground. Normal size may be a foot taller or so. Pay close attention to these things!

1. The peduncle angles and how they change! I’ve never seen anything like this! Lots of pics from lots of angels!
2. Brown splotching on the pstem. Some would see this and think AA
3. The color of the male flowers! They are very pretty! Look similar to VC!
4. Very long and huge bunch! This was a first year bunch! To me means a commercial type!
5. The flowers and sap had a Very floral and strong smell! Unlike any other Musa!
6. Most important and shocked me!! The pulp was ORANGE! Taste was very sweet but not filled enough to say much more.

What do you think? After a couple more years research I will be sharing this clone. Hope I get ripe fruit this year! Bunch froze before they could fill.

Anyone know or seen what the real deal looks like? PM me!! Or say here!

02-13-2018, 01:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
Tytaylor77 Banana Plants for Trade Location: East Texas Find me on the map! Zone: 8b Name: Ty Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,367 BananaBucks : 56,613 Feedback: 11 / 100% Said "Thanks" 4,607 Times Was Thanked 3,727 Times in 1,185 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 424 Times	Re: Lakatan vs lacatan Can someone clear this up? I 100% agree with Paco! And to further confuse things I will add more from what I’ve researched! I’ve been fairly obsessed with finding the real AA Lakatan! Here is what my research shows! There is a true Lakatan from the Philippines and it is grown all over SE Asia! Getting the real deal is another story! It shocks me this banana is not grown here and is not popular! Everyone who has eaten it says it’s their favorite sweet banana! But it is nowhere here! Been trying and Still trying! There is 2 forms of Asia Lakatan! One grows to be around 10’-11’ other grows to be taller. Around 16’. One is called Berangan Kuning and the other Berangan Merah! In other countries they have different names and even to make it worse LOCAL names! They can also be called The Cici banana. Buluñgan, Balañgon, Lakatan, or Lacatan! And all these names are only in the Philippines! Lol. Next there is the issue of AA vs AAA. Most everyone considers it an AA. The real one. Now professionals are saying it is an AAA type! This info comes from several sources including a friend I have who works with Musa at KU Leuven. As of now I am 99% convinced the real Lakatan is AAA!! I have over 100 varieties. Do I have the real one? I don’t know! I have tried and spent quite a lot to acquire it! The closest I have came to getting it is my direct import from Cambodia. It was taken from a field owned by a small town fruit vender at a local market! He told my source to go here and dig here for a Cambodian Egg Banana! Well after flowering I contacted him again and he asked the owner of the field. The owner grows 4 types! Cambodian Egg banana, Musa Lakatan, and 2 local types named after local names! All grown there are commercial bananas for sale in the marketplace! In my opinion and most I have talked to say it is an AAA type. I have had 3-4 contacts from Asia tell me it looks a lot like the real Lakatan. I’ve had 2 people whom I consider Musa experts tell me it could be the real Lakatan. I’ve had 1 Expert say it may be a type of GM. So what do I have! Look at my pictures on Flickr below. I put them in the “maybe Lakatan” folder. It flowered around 9’-10’ this was its first year in the ground. Normal size may be a foot taller or so. Pay close attention to these things! 1. The peduncle angles and how they change! I’ve never seen anything like this! Lots of pics from lots of angels! 2. Brown splotching on the pstem. Some would see this and think AA 3. The color of the male flowers! They are very pretty! Look similar to VC! 4. Very long and huge bunch! This was a first year bunch! To me means a commercial type! 5. The flowers and sap had a Very floral and strong smell! Unlike any other Musa! 6. Most important and shocked me!! The pulp was ORANGE! Taste was very sweet but not filled enough to say much more. What do you think? After a couple more years research I will be sharing this clone. Hope I get ripe fruit this year! Bunch froze before they could fill. Anyone know or seen what the real deal looks like? PM me!! Or say here! __________________ 150+ Varieties!!. See profile for list. Help me add more! CLICK HERE TO SEE PICTURES OF MY MUSA COLLECTION! www.bananapups.com Last edited by Tytaylor77 : 02-13-2018 at 01:11 AM.