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kizanne · 12-16-2013, 08:24 AM

NeoNics are systemic and they last through initial contact allowing them to build in soil, pollen, wax. Most studies on Neonics and their effect on bees only covers initial exposure and not long term built up residue.

The chemicals that aren't really tested and GM crops I believe play a part but CCD is a combination of several factors I think.

Bee keepers also play a part in the trouble kept bees are having. The average commercial bee keeper use lots of on label chemicals but many around here also use off label chemicals like roach bait to control small hive beetle. In addition the bees nutrition is greatly impacted. Bee keepers steal their honey leaving them no stores and feed them sugar water and artificial pollen. Both are poor substitutes for what the bees had taken from them. Honey is an antimicrobial and antifungal agent where as sugar water is not. By taking all the bees to California for the almond pollination this also allows the bees to have great intermingling which increases the spread of parasites and disease.

Add in all the chemicals sprayed in the almond fields and elsewhere and of course you have sickly bees.

I agree with the sentiment if you have to use chemicals you are doing it wrong. While yield maybe lower the product is healthier.

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kizanne Find me on the map! Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 39 BananaBucks : 17,251 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 27 Times Was Thanked 48 Times in 25 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: Bee's Where are they ? NeoNics are systemic and they last through initial contact allowing them to build in soil, pollen, wax. Most studies on Neonics and their effect on bees only covers initial exposure and not long term built up residue. The chemicals that aren't really tested and GM crops I believe play a part but CCD is a combination of several factors I think. Bee keepers also play a part in the trouble kept bees are having. The average commercial bee keeper use lots of on label chemicals but many around here also use off label chemicals like roach bait to control small hive beetle. In addition the bees nutrition is greatly impacted. Bee keepers steal their honey leaving them no stores and feed them sugar water and artificial pollen. Both are poor substitutes for what the bees had taken from them. Honey is an antimicrobial and antifungal agent where as sugar water is not. By taking all the bees to California for the almond pollination this also allows the bees to have great intermingling which increases the spread of parasites and disease. Add in all the chemicals sprayed in the almond fields and elsewhere and of course you have sickly bees. I agree with the sentiment if you have to use chemicals you are doing it wrong. While yield maybe lower the product is healthier. __________________ Plants in flower: double mahoi Pups successfully removed: double mahoi Other banana's I own: orinoco dwarf red ice cream (maybe a Namwah) goldfinger california gold raji puri manzano apple