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Originally Posted by Dalmatiansoap
I ll start this topic here although isnt banana related or maybe it is considering my country is in a way a Banana republic  , looking geographicly that is 
Well, things goes like this, sometime in Januray we will have an important referendum here about joining European Union and Im still not clear with myself what to vote for.
If U can vote in your countries now at this moment what would U choose?
What can be the benefits and what with The Dark Side?
All invited!
Thanks
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It's sad how you think that in ANY Slavic country people actually have the vote. Yes, you put the voting paper into the box... but that's it. (see the latest case in Russia, Ukraine...).
As an EU member, let me tell you, what happened after joining the EU.
1) Every company partaking in the food production was ordered to seize their activity for some laugable EU funds. Needless to say... that it was binding for everybody. What will we eat? People asked. France and Spain will produce enough, don't worry. And they did. The only catch is, that my country was selfsufficient 20 years ago (in food production, heavy industry...) now we are only consumers with little or no choice.
Thousands, if not tens of thousands of jobs lost. And the bonus: food price has increased many folds... to a western standard. Of course... the salaries remained eastern.
2) We were pressured to enter the currency union... for which no referendum was given. And so we have Euro now. Judge on your own. 25% national budget is sent to Brussels and Athens. They will never come back. Needless to say that both capital cities are ruling countries much richer, than our own.
3) Free-movement. More than 55% of our young population has left the country. There's literally nobody to work on the pensioners. And nobody to run the economy.
The situation is in fact (partially due to the EU) so severe, that a form of social war has already begun. Needless to say, that those people bread by the communists will after the next elections hold majority in the parliament. One party.
Nobody asked me, but if I could vote to enter the EU, I would vote rather against.
Your local businesses and markets will be taken over by western and chinese companies and through some Brussels law you will have no choice, but to accept it. Corruption has (with the inflow of Brussels money) increased by 2500%.
As long as you have your own currency, your own freedoms... why lose it to somebody in a completely different country/
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Originally Posted by Richard
Yes, Greece was sold on the idea that joining the EU would fix "the dark side" in that county -- except that the voters didn't understand that the change would have to come from within.
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I disagree. And now we can see that the more moeny is poured into greece, the more definite it is, that the Greece will never pay it back.
Their debts will be paid off though. As long as I'm concerned, they once again showed us who's the oldest and most evolved culture in the Europe. No other country will get the sort of money they got. And every other country will have to pay for them.