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Old 05-27-2012, 10:07 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Very Good information which I can use to make an informed choice.

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It is very, very difficult to repel bees off of comb if there is brood. This time of year, and in your area any time of the year there will be comb with brood.
Very good to know; you are saying that the bees must either be physically removed or killed. They will not leave.

There are repellents that beekeepers use to have bees vacate honey supers at the time of harvest. These are quite powerful, and work very very well, but will do nearly nothing to move bees off of comb with brood. It will agitate them and make them defensive. Gasoline, diesel, insecticides will really aggravate them.

Bear in mind that repellents also wear off. The presence of old comb and bee odors however persist and are very attractive to future swarms. (in fact one way to get more bees is set out some old equipment that had previously housed bees!) In other words, unless you get rid of them entirely, and remove the comb and seal the thing up, you are fairly likely to have more bees in the future.

That would be great if they came back nx yr. Next year I will set up swam boxes and I would really like to have a hive about for pollination purposes that I would feed during lean times of the year.
I will seal off the shed and keep it sprayed which I should be doing anyway. Except in the past it was only inside the shed. Now I have to do the outside also.


Not least of all is that you will be leaving pollen and honey and bee larvae in the void. All of these, when not protected by the bees are very interesting to other critters. Honeycomb is also very thin wax, and if the colony is no there to modulate the temps, can melt, then there will be a gawdawful mess that is far harder to mitigate.

Relative to critters. While there are bears within 10 miles of my place (Old "Air products nature reserve"), none have ever at least for many, many years (Probably since the 19th century) been seen where I am, but it could change. Wild hogs normally do not make it up the creek to where I am. Leaving raccoons and such. My guess is that the fireants would clean up the mess. Shed is distant from house and I use it also to store garbage so smell is not a big factor.

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Wild hogs can be shot at anytime florida. If it is bears that came calling I would just have to watch them destroy my shed since they are protected in FL.
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The black bears we have around here unlesss they are with a cub will normally run off if the see you. If that doesn't work a handheld air horn will work and then there is bear spray. Before I'd let him tear my shed up which is what he'd do looking for the honey I'd have to have a talk with him but I'd bring my 44. Self defense is not illegal but I doubt it would go that far.

Rubbing the entrance to a empty hive with lemon will attract bees.
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I wouldn't suggest trying this with a swam but all of this discussion leads me to recall of how I once dealt with a large wasp nest under my dad's eave maybe 25 years ago. I don't remember if we even had wasp sprays around back then but I had a clever idea and got a can of ether (diesel engine starter fluid in an aerosol can). I then got a long lighter and held it out maybe 12" in front of the can of ether and sprayed it towards the nest for just a second. A large wide flame briefly engulfed the nest. The eave showed now damage at all and all of the wasps were crawling around on the ground without wings. Not a single one had managed to fly away. Understandably, my dad just shook his head but I reminded him that my fascination with fires was something I learned from him.
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Bees wax and fire, now that could get out of hand!
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Ah yes the handheld flame throwers of my youth. We used them to kill the enemy forces when we played with our plastic Army figures. There probably wasn't any child warnings on cans back then. I'm so traumatised. Can I still sue?
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