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Old 12-26-2011, 12:27 PM   #1121 (permalink)
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Old 12-26-2011, 01:27 PM   #1122 (permalink)
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Okay, now I'll post a comparison of my garden with photos taken 12/13 after several days of frost and then again Christmas morning after even more frost/freezing weather. Much of the damage was already done on 12/13 (cell walls already broken) but the leaves then dried out.



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Old 12-26-2011, 08:51 PM   #1123 (permalink)
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My Wunderground banner says it's 49F at 5:48 but my own thermometer says it's 42.6F. Most of the time it's pretty close but sometimes there's a big variation for some reason.
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Old 12-26-2011, 11:53 PM   #1124 (permalink)
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Okay, now I'll post a comparison of my garden with photos taken 12/13 after several days of frost and then again Christmas morning after even more frost/freezing weather. Much of the damage was already done on 12/13 (cell walls already broken) but the leaves then dried out.



"fried bananas" anyone? haha
Ouch!! Guess the micro climate only goes just so far. Hopefully the corms stay tough!
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Old 12-27-2011, 12:06 AM   #1125 (permalink)
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So far all of the pseudostems look fine so I expect nearly all will grow back from the tops come spring unless we get even colder temperatures. This is typical for what they look like most winters but earlier than normal. Some of these have never been over-wintered outdoors so I may see some culling of the herd which is fine. I should have dug up my Ae Ae, though. I think I'll whack it to the ground and pot it up in the next day or two.

My Venite Cohol flowered not that long ago and the weather was too cool for them to size up so that was a waste. One of my California Golds is pushing out a flower bud so that's a goner as well. We had such a cool spring and summer that it was mostly a disappointing year.
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Old 12-27-2011, 12:08 AM   #1126 (permalink)
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It's amazing how much tougher the palm is. Look at that thing!
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Old 12-27-2011, 12:20 AM   #1127 (permalink)
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I have a jelly palm and a Bolivian coconut as well. They are fine. I think it's somewhat a matter of the water content in the leaves.
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Old 12-27-2011, 12:43 AM   #1128 (permalink)
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My overnight lows have been above 40F in recent days.

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Old 12-27-2011, 02:54 AM   #1129 (permalink)
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I don't think we've had lows over 40F for a month. This is the longest cold spell I can remember. One acquaintance from about 25 miles away has two personal weather stations and says the number of freezing days at his location is approaching a 50 year record. Fortunately, I'm typically running a couple of degrees warmer than him. My 'Frederick' passionfruit has quite a few burnt leaves now but his has lost half of its leaves.
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I'm kind of surprised that it's not that much warmer in parts of California in comparison the upstate NY at this time of the year close to new years. It has been mostly 40s in the day time and 30s at night in the past few weeks as well as in the forecast and it doesn't look like it's getting much colder in January.

If this weather keeps up for another 2 months through the most brutal part of winter historically, then all the bananas & other plants should come out of dormancy just fine.
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:14 PM   #1132 (permalink)
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I'm kind of surprised that it's not that much warmer in parts of California in comparison the upstate NY at this time of the year close to new years. It has been mostly 40s in the day time and 30s at night in the past few weeks as well as in the forecast and it doesn't look like it's getting much colder in January.

If this weather keeps up for another 2 months through the most brutal part of winter historically, then all the bananas & other plants should come out of dormancy just fine.
It has a been a cold winter by California standards. I looked at my local accumulated chill hours (hours below 45 degrees; relevant to stone fruits) and found that in my area, we already had twice as many chill hours to this point in the year as in any of the last 6 years. No wonder my banana plants have been growing slower than last winter!

On the other hand, many of those days with several hours of cold down into the upper 30's also had day-time highs in the 70's. So we aren't suffering too much!
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A better measure of chill hours is the Utah method: Between Nov. 1 and Jan. 1, number of hours below 45F minus the number of hours above 65F.

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Tomorrow is forecast to be Warmer than today.

Looks like a week of great weather ahead in the neighborhood.

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The day time humidity here has been severely low. Some of my plants in smaller pots have needed regular watering.
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Had our 15th frost this morning. Just before midnight it's slightly above 39F so maybe we're in for a warm spell.
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