Sourcing loquat varieties - Page 2

kgbenson · 04-03-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish

I believe they are the same as TY TY

Oi - I ordered from them the other day - I hope you are incorrect!

Keith

Darkman · 04-03-2012, 06:13 PM

OUCH!

$65.00 for Big Jim. I can stomach that.

$38.45 for shipping.

I think I reached my pain level.

I hope I can get some budwood or grafting stock.

kgbenson · 04-03-2012, 06:27 PM

I know, though I will say it was one of the single best trees/plants I have ever purchased.

Keith

kgbenson · 04-05-2012, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunfish

I believe they are the same as TY TY

I checked into it, and apparently they are different.

Keith

barnetmill · 04-05-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish

I believe they are the same as TY TY

My one experience with Ty Ty was not good. Their plants are tiny, extremely expensive, and have poor survival. I also got chased back to my truck by their loose pit bull. Only buy from them as a last resort and be aware that what you buy could well not survive.
Buy from anyone else first. There is a I think an Aarons something or other that seems to be an offshoot from them. Since they are so similar I would also beware of them too.

harveyc · 04-05-2012, 09:50 PM

The scoop on 'Aaron's Nursery'

See post made at Mar 22, 06 at 12:47 for affiliates of Ty Ty:
TyTy Nursery in GA - Southern Gardening Forum - GardenWeb

kgbenson · 04-10-2012, 01:02 PM

I am amazed that the TyTy/Aaron's people can remain in business. The internet is littered with tales of their poor service.

I ordered from them years ago and was less than happy. In the end the twigs they sent me did survive, but it was a lot longer before they were the blueberry bushes I had ordered.

Anyway, back to loquats. Let me know if there are other places to list.

Keith

barnetmill · 04-15-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sunfish

I believe they are the same as TY TY

They are supposed to be former disgruntled employees of TyTy at least one of whom did webpage work for them. There is supposed to be an internet and legal battle of between them now. On the ranking page for davesgarde there a lot of negative comments Could be ringers sent in by TyTy. I check for the source of the Perdue Pear that attracted my attention to Willis Orchard and saw

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Texas Pecan Nursery (Exclusive Grower / Wholesaler)
Sam Pollard (903) 849-6203

Willis Orchard Company (Retail Seller)
Phone Orders 1-866-586-6283

I checked the TyTy webpage and TyTy does not sell the Perdue pear. So this suggests that the two are truly separate. In order to buy in person one has IIRC purchase $200 minimal order and I will see if they have enough to interest me in a $200 minimal order to make it worth while for me. I can hit them and also Just Fruits and Exotics which is not so very far away and not burn too much extra gasoline. Reason for going in person is to make sure that they are not a TyTy ripoff. I am also interested in the Willis loquats and also their cherry cultivars. They also have a good selection of nut trees and apricots. Just Fruits and Willis do not offer exactly the same things and so it could worth my while to pass by both of them.
What do you think about this Darkman?

Darkman · 04-15-2012, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barnetmill

They are supposed to be former disgruntled employees of TyTy at least one of whom did webpage work for them. There is supposed to be an internet and legal battle of between them now. On the ranking page for davesgarde there a lot of negative comments Could be ringers sent in by TyTy. I check for the source of the Perdue Pear that attracted my attention to Willis Orchard and saw
I checked the TyTy webpage and TyTy does not sell the Perdue pear. So this suggests that the two are truly separate. In order to buy in person one has IIRC purchase $200 minimal order and I will see if they have enough to interest me in a $200 minimal order to make it worth while for me. I can hit them and also Just Fruits and Exotics which is not so very far away and not burn too much extra gasoline. Reason for going in person is to make sure that they are not a TyTy ripoff. I am also interested in the Willis loquats and also their cherry cultivars. They also have a good selection of nut trees and apricots. Just Fruits and Willis do not offer exactly the same things and so it could worth my while to pass by both of them.
What do you think about this Darkman?

I think it is an excellent idea. If we are there in person it should be difficult to be taken advantage of. Willis doesn't have a great rep BUT I think it should be worth the trip especially since it is close to JF&E. I definately need some items from there. Here is the scoop from DG. "Willis Orchard Company has 289 reviews (143 negative, 128 positive and 18 neutral) at the Garden Watchdog"

The scoop on 'Willis Orchard Company'

Paradise Palm is an affiliate owned by Jason Willis. Their DG report is here.

The scoop on 'Paradise Palm Co.'

We could do a cumulative buy of $200.00 and that would help too!

Should be a good trip. Let's do it.

barnetmill · 04-15-2012, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkman

I think it is an excellent idea. If we are there in person it should be difficult to be taken advantage of. Willis doesn't have a great rep BUT I think it should be worth the trip especially since it is close to JF&E. I definately need some items from there. Here is the scoop from DG. "Willis Orchard Company has 289 reviews (143 negative, 128 positive and 18 neutral) at the Garden Watchdog"

The scoop on 'Willis Orchard Company'

Paradise Palm is an affiliate owned by Jason Willis. Their DG report is here.

The scoop on 'Paradise Palm Co.'

We could do a cumulative buy of $200.00 and that would help too!

Should be a good trip. Let's do it.

The trouble with the reviews is that their former employer at Ty Ty could be sending in the negative reviews. Darkman I am sure we will work something out. You have to have an appointment also to buy from them on site which is made over the phone.

Darkman · 04-16-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by barnetmill

The trouble with the reviews is that their former employer at Ty Ty could be sending in the negative reviews. Darkman I am sure we will work something out. You have to have an appointment also to buy from them on site which is made over the phone.

Yeah the Ty Ty guys could just copy and paste some of their reviews! LOL

I'm off every other Saturday so I ready whenever you can make it.

kgbenson · 04-21-2012, 07:35 PM

This is what arrived from Willis: well packed, excellent root development, but I cannot find a grafting scar - think these are cuttings.

Darkman · 04-21-2012, 11:40 PM

What varities are these supposed to be?

I have my trimmings from the grafting in water to see if they will root.

kgbenson · 04-22-2012, 05:24 AM

Early red, Vista white and golden nugget. The fourth tree was unlabeled and an extra. I may use it as a rootstock an try my hand at grafting just to see.

Keith

Darkman · 04-22-2012, 06:46 PM

Keith that sounds good. When I (actually SBL came over and gave me a crash course in grafting) grafted the scion wood you sent me I took the trimmings off the seedlings and I am trying to root them. I should have plenty if they all take.

I haven't heard of any "superior" rootstock for Loquats so the rooted cuttings are probably better than a grafted one IMHO.

Thanks again.

PS Still loooking for BIG JIM scions if anyone has any.

CountryBoy1981 · 02-17-2017, 05:53 PM

Does anyone have any updates on whether you got what you purchased from Willis Orchard? Were they seed grown, grafted, or cuttings?

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kgbenson <div style="font-weight: bold;"><div style="font-weight: bold;">&lt;div style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;di v style=&amp;quot;font-weight: bold;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&a mp;amp;lt;di v sty Location: Columbia SC Zone: 8 Name: Keith Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 132 BananaBucks : 40,320 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 18 Times Was Thanked 47 Times in 31 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 11 Times	Re: Sourcing loquat varieties I am amazed that the TyTy/Aaron's people can remain in business. The internet is littered with tales of their poor service. I ordered from them years ago and was less than happy. In the end the twigs they sent me did survive, but it was a lot longer before they were the blueberry bushes I had ordered. Anyway, back to loquats. Let me know if there are other places to list. Keith __________________ Bee Sting Honey . . . So Good It Hurts http://www.geocities.com/k2benson/TC...ban/TCban.html

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Darkman Dirt Master Darkman's Photo Gallery Location: Pensacola, FL South of I-10 Find me on the map! Zone: 8b/9a Name: Darkman Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,249 BananaBucks : 204,765 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 9,263 Times Was Thanked 1,582 Times in 702 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 243 Times	Re: Sourcing loquat varieties What varities are these supposed to be? I have my trimmings from the grafting in water to see if they will root. __________________ Darkman in Pensacola AS ALWAYS IMHO AND YOUR MILEAGE MAY DIFFER!!!!!!!! Life - Some assembly required, As is no warranty, Batteries not included, Instructions shipped separately and are frequently wrong! Kentucky Bourbon - It may not solve the problem but it helps to make it tolerable! Statistics - Data that analyst twist to support the insane opinions of those that pay them.

04-22-2012, 05:24 AM	#34 (permalink)
kgbenson <div style="font-weight: bold;"><div style="font-weight: bold;">&lt;div style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;di v style=&amp;quot;font-weight: bold;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&a mp;amp;lt;di v sty Location: Columbia SC Zone: 8 Name: Keith Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 132 BananaBucks : 40,320 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 18 Times Was Thanked 47 Times in 31 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 11 Times	Re: Sourcing loquat varieties Early red, Vista white and golden nugget. The fourth tree was unlabeled and an extra. I may use it as a rootstock an try my hand at grafting just to see. Keith __________________ Bee Sting Honey . . . So Good It Hurts http://www.geocities.com/k2benson/TC...ban/TCban.html

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Darkman Dirt Master Darkman's Photo Gallery Location: Pensacola, FL South of I-10 Find me on the map! Zone: 8b/9a Name: Darkman Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,249 BananaBucks : 204,765 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 9,263 Times Was Thanked 1,582 Times in 702 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 243 Times	Re: Sourcing loquat varieties Keith that sounds good. When I (actually SBL came over and gave me a crash course in grafting) grafted the scion wood you sent me I took the trimmings off the seedlings and I am trying to root them. I should have plenty if they all take. I haven't heard of any "superior" rootstock for Loquats so the rooted cuttings are probably better than a grafted one IMHO. Thanks again. *PS Still loooking for BIG JIM* scions if anyone has any. __________________ Darkman in Pensacola AS ALWAYS IMHO AND YOUR MILEAGE MAY DIFFER!!!!!!!! Life** - Some assembly required, As is no warranty, Batteries not included, Instructions shipped separately and are frequently wrong! Kentucky Bourbon - It may not solve the problem but it helps to make it tolerable! Statistics - Data that analyst twist to support the insane opinions of those that pay them.

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