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Old 10-20-2010, 01:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Maybe thread like this one allready exist but does any of you grow any vegetables in pots? I would like to try but just dont know what and how
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I'm glad you asked. With your climate and a little protection, you can make a year-round veggie production for your household (bioveggie. ). The key however lies in the soil - it should be well-draining, humus rich and light soil that can easily be peneterated by the roots.

Also the pot doesn't need to be superbig, certainly smaller than banana pots, yet make sure that it's stable. Veggies like tomatoes can make it very unstable during windy weather, rains...

Terracotta pots hold the warmth slightly better than plastic pots (and have higher sun heat capacity), yet if you want a good insulation from the floor (!highly recommended), you should make sure that there's at least 5cm of solid plastic or other isolation between the floor and the pot.

Other than that? Nothing, just try... in your mini greenhouse.
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Really not to much difference than growing any other plant in containers.
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Great thread, Ante!


I've been growing veggies & fruits in pots for many years and have tons of experience. Here's a pic I took today of my Determinate "Patio" tomato plant I am currently growing in a 3 gallon pot in my sunny living room window...








Vegetable Container Gardening...



Many fresh veggies, strawberries, and some shrubby berries can be grown productively in containers. I've been doing it for over seven years now and it's not difficult. You can have your own mini-farm on a patio, deck, or balcony. You can also use containers to overcome problems of poor garden soil, heavy root competition, or shade.

For success with growing veggies in containers, you need to consider the location and size of the container, the soil mixture in the container, and the watering and fertilizing needs of the plants.

Nearly all veggies and berries require full sunlight. Crops will grow faster and produce more in full sun than in partial shade. Plants grown for their fruits, such as tomatoes, squashes, and strawberries, need at least 6-8 hours of daily sunlight. If all you have is a partially shaded site, you can still get a harvest of root and leaf crops. Using the descriptions of individual crops, match your choices to the location of your containers.

Many vegeatables are available in dwarf varieties, or varieties that have more restrained growth than usual. These are ideal for growing in containers. "Patio" tomatoes, finger or round carrots, and bush type beans, cucumbers, melons, and squash are examples of small versions of normally very big plants.

Nearly anything that will hold soil and allow water to drain from it, can be used as a container. The most important consideration is that the container offer enough room for the roots of the crop you intend to grow. You can raise a stand of Chives in an 8" pot, but a squash plant in the same container will fail resoundingly. Most crops need soil that is 12" deep and bigger is definitely better.

Large wood boxes, wooden barrels, and large (1 foot in diameter or greater) clay or plastic pots will hold enough soil for all but the largest of veggies. Remember that the smaller the container is, the faster it'll dry out and the more it will be subject to changes in temperature.

Hanging containers...which you might plant tomatoes, for example...can dry out rapidly because they are so thoroughly exposed to sunlight and wind. Be sure to water regularily, and since the hanging pots can become quite heavy when filled with mature plants, be sure to use sturdy hooks and wire or chain for suspending them.

Container soil must provide free penetration of water and air, but ideally it should retain moisture as well. A liberal quantity of organic matter in the soil mixture helps. Usually a combination of peat moss or other organic material and sand, perlite, or vermiculite works well...but they dry out quickly, and often contain no nutrients.

Container veggies need lots of water...and fertilizer. In the heat of the Summer you could find your self watering your veggie pots daily. To maintain steady growth, potted veggies need a regular and consistent supply of nutrients. I like to add Blood & Bonemeal to my new container veggies to get them off to a good start and then I hit them with a water-soluble organic solution weekly thereafter.

Another concern, is that veggies in pots can become very top-heavy and the containers can fall over as a result. Heavy clay pots will remedy this, or putting heavy rocks in the bottom of your pots before you plant in them will also help.


Peppers grow excellent in pots too. Here's some of my indoor plants today still producing fruits...





Hope this information is useful to vegetable container gardeners.


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Thought I'd post some more information on growing edibles in containers for folks interested...



When choosing which vegetable to grow, remember that compact or dwarf varieties are generally the best choices for containers. Here's a list of some veggies that are well suited for container culture:


~ Bean (bush type)
~ Carrot (short-rooted types)
~ Corn salad
~ Eggplant
~ Cucumber (bush cultivars)
~ Kale
~ Lettuce
~ Onion
~ Pea (needs a trellis)
~ Pepper
~ Radish
~ Silverbeet
~ Summer Squash (bush cultivars)
~ Tomato
~ Watercress
~ Broccoli
~ Cauliflower
~ Spinach
~ Beets
~ Turnip
~ Zucchini (dwarf types)

and many more...





Edible Container Garden...


You can grow veggies and many other edibles in containers, as you now know. You can even grow some indoors as I have shown, if you have a room that gets lots of light. As I mentioned previously, the containers you use should be generous in size...especially for root vegetables and have excellent drainage.





Creating a Container Salad Garden...


A container garden can be perfect for one-stop salad gardening and harvesting. You can plant your salad greens in a window box container outside the kitchen, and some chives and basil. Hang a basket of cherry tomatoes nearby, and you'll have salads literally at your fingertips!

Lettuce and Spinach do best in cooler temperatures, so start some in early Spring. Plant some again in late summer and you'll enjoy months of delicious salads. They'll even grow beautifully inside!

Most salad plants are decorative as well as functional. Plant flowers with your veggies, or place flowering containers next to them. Zinnias, Sweet Alyssum, Marigolds, and Ageratum provide color and attract valuable pollinating insects.




Here's a container size guide...

~ 4" (10cm) Lettuce, Radish, Beetroot, Chives, Shallots.
~ 6" (15cm) Kohlrabi, Baby Carrots, Turnips, Chinese Cabbage, Spinach, Silverbeet, Endive, Sorrel.
~ 8" (20cm) Beans, Cabbage, Peppers, Cucumbers, Zucchini, Celery, Peas.
~ 10" (25cm) Broccoli, Cauliflower, deep rooted Carrots, Tomatoes.


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Took this hurried shot in a rush today, but it shows my tomatoes again. A few are just days from ripening...





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Here are some very old (7 years) scanned shots of some more veggies I grew in pots, started from seed:


This was a Jerusalem Cherry plant. Athough non-edible, it shows an example of a fruiting plant grown in a container. Beside it are some of my "Gypsy" sweet peppers that are also an excellent variety to grow indoors in a sunny winter windowsill...





FireCracker hot chili peppers...






Showing many seedling herbs in my strawberry pot, more "Patio" tomatoes, hot peppers, and a dwarf cucumber bush variety called "Pot Luck" in a container as well...





Although this shot is blurry (I wasn't as good at picture taking back then ) it shows my "sweet million" cherry tomatoes, also in a large container and staked. Plus you can also see the flowers of my "scarlet runner" pole bean vine also in a pot...





Although this shot is fairly old too, it displays one of my most favorite veggies to grow in a pot and super easy, even in winter, is "Bright lights" Swiss Chard...






Indoor seed grown herbs in my strawberry pot a few years ago...






Everything shown was grown from seed.



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Wow. Your plants look like they lead healthy lives. I'm actually tempted next summer to just buy a ton of containers and do the planting in them.
Right now I'm trying cucumbers and beans in a bucket next to our piano. Your cherry tomatoes are causing me to think about cherry tomatoes now.
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So glad you are inspired, Tbaleno!



Be sure to post shots and discuss growing methods later with us. There's never only one way of doing things and I think gardeners should find their own way. I just like to share what has worked for me from my own personal experience...not from a textbook.


You can grow just about anything in a container that you can think of but in order for veggies to thrive and produce large yields, they do need some TLC and special attention.


I cannot stress FERTILIZING enough, when it comes to vegetables most especially. You just won't believe your crops and yields if you are consistent in your feedings.


Light is also a major concern because veggies need lots of it. I was going to start a thread just before Ante's called "Indoor Veggie Growing" because it's one of my most favorite things to do. Wintertime can be a time to produce lots of indoor produce.


Spinach & Chards grow beautifully and Romaine Lettuce is like a dream in your window in January. I've done it many times and it's super fun as well as rewarding.


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I'm going to the hydroponic store again tomorrow. I'll see if they have any more vegetable seeds. Seems like its the only place to buy seeds this time of year in New England.
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Or trade with other gardeners, Tbaleno, which is so much more rewarding and fun anyway.




Thought I'd copy and paste some of my information from the Tomato thread, and bring it here also...




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Here's my "Patio" tomato plant this morning, loaded with fruits...





Notice I keep a little mini tomato cage around the plant to support it? This will prevent it from leaning or falling over completely as it grows about two feet tall in a pot.


No pollination is required indoors to get fruits on your plant...









One thing you should know if you're growing tomatoes indoors though is that edible plants attract pests like no other plants, for obvious reasons, so you must take measures against them, most especially inside.


Here's what I do to ward off leaf-sucking spider mites...


Once a week, I take my two foot tall tomato plant straight to the bathtub...and I lay it right down on it's side and fill the tub up a bit with water, making sure some of the leaves are submerged down in the water.

Before laying the plant down I bag the pot and tie it off, so the soil doesn't seep out into the tub. I swish the leaves around and even use a cup to pour water over them and I turn the plant in the water so that all sides get submerged.

Showering your plant once a week will keep mites away for good & your plant will fourish with tomatoes all Fall and Winter long...





with more on their way...





As you can see from my previous pics, "Patio" tomatoes grow very quickly...and they ripen fast too...and they're absolutely delicious!

I use a good well draining soil-less medium (Sunshine Pro-Mix #4) and I fertilize regularily with a organic water-soluble formula called DNF (Dutch Nutrient Formula). I also mix some Blood & Bonemeal into the soil when I first pot the seedling up into it's larger home container.


Fertilizing your tomato plant is extremely important if you want want an abundance of plump fruits, so this is something to pay special attention to. Mine gets a dose each week without fail.


I'll show more shots soon...


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I've had "fun" planting up red potatoes in a large planter for the deck. You get a lot of questions about what kind of plant is that, especially when in bloom, and people are amazed when you tell them it is just a potato. And, you get to eat the potatoes at season's end. Another interesting project is to grow root vegetables like carrots, radishes (especially Japanese daikon) and parsnips in clay chimney liners. When grown properly (well watered and fertilized) the resultant veggies are enormous in size. Otherwise, check Sherry, The HolleyBerry Lady's info, very in depth and helpful. Thanks Sherry!
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Sherry, you mention silverbeet in your list of pottable plants. Is that the same as the white stemmed varieties of chard? Rik
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Yes Rik, Silverbeet is just another name for Chard here, both the white and red stem varieties.


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Figured I'd show off my Bhut Jolockia hot pepper( seed from HBL) this pic is just the first crop and I have a second one coming in now with the plant indoors.


The first crop was over 80 peppers!
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I think Wow! says it all. Beautiful....I have a definite soft spot for peppers and other solanums, and this is a great example!
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Incredibly hot. I used just a small 1/3 of one pepper for Mitchel's banana flower recipe and it wasn't too hot with that little but you could tell it was a real burner. I made the rest into hot sauce that will take another 6 months before I taste it. Maybe I'll gte brave with the next batch and try a little more in a meal.
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Woops, I missed your other post Rik...



Potatoes and carrots can grow better in a container than they do in the ground!!!


Do you know why?



Because there's no rocks in containers, stunting and deforming the growth. My aunt grows carrots in huge buckets each year and they are so perfect looking when she harvests them.


Glad you find the information useful, Rik. I really know a lot about growing veggies in pots and want to inspire others to do so too.


Here's some more of my copied posts I thought should be here also...


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When tomato plants are grown in containers, even in the Wintertime, in a warm south window, require a whole lot of water. In fact, my plant currently requires water daily, as it's in sun all day long and producing fruits rapidly.


Be sure to water your tomato plants regularily and not let the pot dry out, or it could be at the expense of your new blossoms which will drop off, or your tomatoes will be sunken-in looking and therefore destroyed.

As you can see by this pic I took today, the fruits are getting very plump, very fast...





They cannot ripen soon enough for me...


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Be sure to turn your plant a bit every couple of days, to ensure it gets an even amount of light on all the fruits...







More shots when things begin to turn red...



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Anyone know how much of a root system lettuce has? I was thinking of getting some gutter and putting some soil in it and growing a row of salad greens in the basement. I'm just unsure if the shallowness of the gutter will be a problem.
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