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06-30-2010, 07:23 AM | #181 (permalink) |
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How well I know that plants get mislabeled!
I have what was a Misi Luki that decided to become and Ice Cream. Someone gave me an Apple Banana that somewhere in the growing process turned into a Orinoco. The White variety I have seems to have a broader stem and grows faster. Guess I'll have a better Idea in 45 days if it sets fruit!
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Scott, just to clarify, I'm not saying your plant is mislabeled. I helped Edgar Valdivia pollinate many varieties of pitaya one night and just recall what he taught me at the time. Maybe there are other varieties with that characteristic. Did you have another source for pollen when you pollinated your flower or did you use it's own pollen? Sometimes pollen from another source is needed, I've read, while sometimes it isn't. Again, good luck!
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My American Beauty (Hylocereus guatemalensis) is also in bloom production now. The others bloomed later in the summer last year.
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From what I understand Cross pollination is best.
The pollen does not stay viable for more than a couple of days. Getting plants to bloom together in a door yard setting is next to impossible. I got rid of one variety because it bloomed a dozen times and never set fruit. Makes you wonder how they survived in the wild. It's something to do until I become compost myself.
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American Beauty is a selection (cultivar) of Hylocereus guatemalensis. It is self-fertile. Getting the pollen from the anthers into the end of the pistil is another matter. If you don't have ants crawling on your plant waiting for the flower bud to open then you might have to do it yourself with a Q-tip.
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Thanks, I've got an American Beauty but it's still a small plant. Maybe next year.
To help spread the news about the CRFG Festival of Fruit featuring the Year of the Pitahaya, I was asked to pass along this latest announcement: Quote:
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Here's an interesting bit of information shared by a SoCal pitaya grower today:
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The first four are listed on The Pine Island Nursery site:
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Yeah, I've seen them there before and had heard last year that some of those were known here in CA by other names. But, in reality, none of them had ever been named by Paul Thomson though he did name 3-S as 'Delight'. The first four on the list above (as well as 3-S, 4-S, 5-S, and 6-S) were crosses between two unknown species which Thomson called 'Neitzel' and 'Rixford'. 'Neitzel' is the only species other than H. undatus that produces white fleshed fruit while 'Rixford' has red-flexhed fruit. Both were reported as having fruits of very good to excellent quality and flavor. Thomson also did two other hybrids from 'Rixford' and 'Houghton'. 'Houghton' may not be Hylocereus but a related genus.
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Here's the latest flower on my Hylocereus guatemalensis.
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I've been asked to share the news of the launch a new pitaya discussion forum:
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Ante, glad they are growing for you. When mine grow 'skinny' like that (usually in winter) it's because of not enough sun.
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California Rare Fruit Growers Welcomes You To The 2010 Festival Of Fruit In Cal Poly Pomona 3801 W. Temple Ave. Bldg 35 Pomona, CA Main Event Date: 8/14/2010 Celebrating The Year Of the Pitahaya The Main Events of Saturday, August 14th, 2010 will be held at The Bronco Student Center Of Cal Poly Pomona 3801 W. Temple Ave. Bldg. 35 Pomona, Ca. 91768 Parking Permits are required, and will be provided for parking Area C to those arriving before 9:00AM by CRFG Volunteeers at the parking entrance. 2010 Festival Of Fruit Registration You have 2 advance registration options: 1) Register Online and pay using PayPal 2) Print the registration form and mail it with a check. Please Mail in a Separate Form for each attendee. If you are not a member of CRFG, we also invite you to join our organization and also join our Los Angeles chapter, however membership is not required in order to attend this event FESTIVAL OF FRUIT 2010 Speakers (Saturday August 14th) Click on underlined names for biography This list of speakers is subject to change Joe Real Fruit Wine Making 101 Charles Portney 29 Years of Amateur Blueberry Growing in So.Cal Jeff Moersfelder Pomegranates: Vegetative Propagation and an Overview of the USDA – Davis, National Clonal Germplasm Repository Collection Bob Hornback A Very Sticky Business: Luther Burbank and His Spineless Cacti David Karp Frontiers of Fruit Marita Cantwell Post-Harvest Management Of Pitahayas Tom del Hotal Eugenias Joe Sabol Grafting: Hands-On Greg Partida Fruit Trees: Problems and Solutions Tom Spellman Best Stone Fruits Tracy Kahn UCR Citrus Variety Collections And Diversity Rose Hayden-Smith From Victory Gardens to Urban Agriculture: Join the Garden Revolution Ken Love (Keynote) Fruit for the future Ken Love (Dinner) Sharing Our Fruit Passions Ramiro Lobo Pitahayas Roger Meyer Jujubes Beverly Alfeld Canning And Preserving Fruit Dario Grossberger Cherimoyas Gray Martin Pitahayas/Dragonfruit For The Future C.Todd Kennedy Low Chill Fruits for Southern California Axel Kratel Rare And Unusual Apples from the Tropics to the North Pole Julie Frink Avocados Norman C. Ellstrand Genetic Engineering Tropical and Subtropical Fruit Trees Bernard Prins Grapes Doug Fieri Importance of Honey Bees FESTIVAL OF FRUIT 2010 Speakers (Saturday August 14th) Click on underlined names for biography This list of speakers is subject to change Joe Real Fruit Wine Making 101 Charles Portney 29 Years of Amateur Blueberry Growing in So.Cal Jeff Moersfelder Pomegranates: Vegetative Propagation and an Overview of the USDA – Davis, National Clonal Germplasm Repository Collection Bob Hornback A Very Sticky Business: Luther Burbank and His Spineless Cacti David Karp Frontiers of Fruit Marita Cantwell Post-Harvest Management Of Pitahayas Tom del Hotal Eugenias Joe Sabol Grafting: Hands-On Greg Partida Fruit Trees: Problems and Solutions Tom Spellman Best Stone Fruits Tracy Kahn UCR Citrus Variety Collections And Diversity Rose Hayden-Smith From Victory Gardens to Urban Agriculture: Join the Garden Revolution Ken Love (Keynote) Fruit for the future Ken Love (Dinner) Sharing Our Fruit Passions Ramiro Lobo Pitahayas Roger Meyer Jujubes Beverly Alfeld Canning And Preserving Fruit Dario Grossberger Cherimoyas Gray Martin Pitahayas/Dragonfruit For The Future C.Todd Kennedy Low Chill Fruits for Southern California Axel Kratel Rare And Unusual Apples from the Tropics to the North Pole Julie Frink Avocados Norman C. Ellstrand Genetic Engineering Tropical and Subtropical Fruit Trees Bernard Prins Grapes Doug Fieri Importance of Honey Bees Confirmed Tours: Date: Time Tour Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:00-12:00 PM South Coast Field Station Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:00-12:00 PM Ed And Pat Valdivia Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:00-11:00 AM Don Winterstein Friday, August 13, 2010 9:00-11:00 AM Melissa's (Tour Closed) Friday, August 13, 2010 10:00- 1:00 PM Huntington Gardens Friday, August 13, 2010 1:00- 2:00 PM Center for Regenerative Studies Friday, August 13, 2010 2:30- 3:30 PM Pitahaya Plantation Saturday, August 14, 2010 All Day Speakers & Other Events Sunday, August 15, 2010 9:00-11:00 AM Elk Creek Ranch Sunday, August 15, 2010 9:00-12:00 PM Fullerton Arboretum FESTIVAL OF FRUIT 2010 Plant Sales (Saturday August 14th) This list of participants is subject to change If you wish to participate in Plant Sales at the 2010 Festival of Fruit, please notify Edgar Valdivia We will also need the following: 1) The name of the Vendor (or business) 2) The vendor's mailing address 3) The vendor's email address 4) A list of what the vendor will be selling. 5) A $50 fee for insurance that CRFG must purchase for the vendors 6) The vendor's registration in the Festival of Fruit (this can be done separately, on-line or it can be included with the above) The registration fee is $35 without meals plus any optional fees for meals: $10 to include lunch, $20 to include dinner, or $30 to include both meals. Print the registration form or register online here. Both methods allow you to specify the types of meals that you wish to have included (if any). We will need all this information with payment by July 31st-that is when we will close all vendor participation. Make out the check payable to: CRFG-LA Chapter and mail to K. Payton 22275 Dardenne St. Calabasas, CA 91302-5869 Papaya Tree Nursery The Arboreum Company Growers of finest varieties of backyard fruits available as bare root trees. Roger Meyer Encanto Farms Elk Creek Ranch Southern Sun Seeds Ken Love Posters Beverly Alfeld Books related to cooking, caning and preserving Exotica Nursery Instructions To Plant Sales Participants: On the day of the Festival everyone will be parking in Lot C. Someone will be working at the booth to hand out tickets and give directions. 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Hey guys, I have some more 'American Beauty' dragon fruit cuttings. Due to limited supply, this time I am selling them for $12 each, that includes shipping to anywhere in the continental United States. I will ship worldwide for $22-30 total($30 would be to Australia or Japan, have to double check though.. if shipping is less than expected..$22 is fine with me).
I have not taken the cuttings yet, so I will cut them as I receive requests. Let me know if any of you are interested. Last edited by supermario : 07-15-2010 at 12:23 AM. |
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To help demonstrate how Pine Island acknowledges the source of some of these varieties, see how their listing for American Beauty shows "QOSF" at the end of the link:
http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/...pages/QOSF.htm Again, QOSF stands for Quang Ong Self Fertile. Quang operates a nice nursery in San Diego where I purchased my lychee and jaboticaba plants. |
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Would I LOVE to go to that Festival of Fruit!
My DF has 3 little growths on one branch/segment, that seems to be attracting black ants. They are nowhere else on the plant. Could these be the start of flowers?? WOOHOO
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Nice looking plants Socal! There are several fruit festivals here in South Florida throughout the year. I think there is one this weekend at Botanical Gardens. They hold a mango festival once a year during mango season. I am now picking several mangos off my trees, so I assume the festival is this weekend or next. I haven't checked though, so it may have passed already.
The fruit & spice park in the Redlands also has several shows throughout the year. They sell plants, fruit, and hold several classes on pretty much anything gardening. Hope you guys don't mind, but also wanted to remind everyone that I'm selling 'American Beauty' Dragon Fruit cuttings. It is a self fertile variety that is also known as 'Quang Ong Self Fertile'. $12 to anywhere in the continental United States ..WOW, I had put size 6 for it to stand out and it was HUGE!! LOL Sry if anyone had to see that! I recently was lucky enough to try some fruit from the mother plant, they are excellent! My personal favorite.. although 'David Bowie' is a CLOSE second. Congrats Ante! It looks like you may have a winner! The growth looks a little skinny(and has bigger spines) compared to mine, maybe it is time to fertilize? I use a water soluble fertilizer(20-20-20). I am no expert though.. It could just be the different climate. As long as it is green, you are good to go from what I understand. If it looks a little yellow, it definitely needs fert. Experts, please feel free to chime in if I'm wrong. Last edited by supermario : 07-15-2010 at 11:11 PM. Reason: Too big..and forgot to congatulate Ante! |
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On the pitaya forum they told me a high K (npk) fert is best. So, I use nana fert - 15-5-30. William Chow ( whom I bought my cuttings from) told me to use higher P fert so I will do that now as it is good for producing blossoms. Well, I'll just go back & forth on that, but I guess they don't like a lot of nitrogen.
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