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Old 06-30-2010, 07:23 AM   #181 (permalink)
 
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How well I know that plants get mislabeled!
I have what was a Misi Luki that decided to become and Ice Cream.
Someone gave me an Apple Banana that somewhere in the growing process turned into a Orinoco.
The White variety I have seems to have a broader stem and grows faster.
Guess I'll have a better Idea in 45 days if it sets fruit!
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Scott, just to clarify, I'm not saying your plant is mislabeled. I helped Edgar Valdivia pollinate many varieties of pitaya one night and just recall what he taught me at the time. Maybe there are other varieties with that characteristic. Did you have another source for pollen when you pollinated your flower or did you use it's own pollen? Sometimes pollen from another source is needed, I've read, while sometimes it isn't. Again, good luck!
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Looks like she bloomed tonight 6/30/2010.
I hope it sets fruit and yes I hand pollinated it.
Now I can
My American Beauty (Hylocereus guatemalensis) is also in bloom production now. The others bloomed later in the summer last year.
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From what I understand Cross pollination is best.
The pollen does not stay viable for more than a couple of days.
Getting plants to bloom together in a door yard setting is next to impossible.
I got rid of one variety because it bloomed a dozen times and never set fruit.
Makes you wonder how they survived in the wild.
It's something to do until I become compost myself.
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American Beauty is a selection (cultivar) of Hylocereus guatemalensis. It is self-fertile. Getting the pollen from the anthers into the end of the pistil is another matter. If you don't have ants crawling on your plant waiting for the flower bud to open then you might have to do it yourself with a Q-tip.
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Thanks, I've got an American Beauty but it's still a small plant. Maybe next year.

To help spread the news about the CRFG Festival of Fruit featuring the Year of the Pitahaya, I was asked to pass along this latest announcement:

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We are getting closer to the Pitahaya Festival which will be held on August 14th at Cal Poly Pomona. - 3801 W. Temple Ave. Bldg 35, Pomona, CA 91768.

This year the festival is being done in conjunction with the CRFG Festival of Fruit. This event includes 4 days of packed activities.

12th of August – Tours to different gardens including mine and the South Coast Research Station (where Ramiro Lobo will be offering a guided tour of the pitahaya collection

13th of August – Tours to the Huntington Botanical Gardens in Pasadena-Please note that usually admission is $18 per person. But for all those registered it will be free.

Center of Regenerative Studies,

Cal Poly Pomona Pitahaya plantation (2 acres)

There will also be a welcoming reception from 5pm-8pm .

14th of August –This will be at Cal Poly Pomona. We have 24 speakers, 3 will be speaking about pitahayas: Ramiro Lobo, Maritza Cantwell and Grey Martin; the others will cover different fruit related subjects.

During the lunch hour there will be fruit tasting –all different stone fruits will be offered by Dave Wilson Nursery

Lunch (paid by attendees)

There will be plant sales and many other attractions.

Dinner (paid by attendees) will be from 6-8pm with a keynote speaker

15th of August- Tours of the Fullerton Arboretum and of the Elk Creek Ranch that specializes in pitahayas.

In order to attend any or all of the events of the Festival you must first be registered. Registration is $35 per person until July 15th, after that date it will go up to $45 per person.

Lunch is $10 and Dinner is $20.

All this information, plus the registration form is on our website: Welcome To The 2010 Festival Of Fruit

I hope you will be able to attend because this Festival is going to be the best yet, and the biggest.

Edgar Valdivia
There will also be discussion on other fruits. The tentative schedule is detailed on the web site linked above. Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it. Fortunately, I'll at least get to enjoy some pitaya at the time while I'm in Nicaragua!
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Here's an interesting bit of information shared by a SoCal pitaya grower today:
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Some years ago I took a number of pitaya varieties to Florida and
gave them to several people there. Unfortunately many of them had
not been named and only had numbers such as most of Paul's
varieties. I realized recently that they were subsequently given
names and some are now being sold in nurseries as well under these
new names. So I contacted some of the people I gave varieties to
and the following is a list of what some of the varieties were
named. I thought you all might want to know since some of you may
have duplicates in your collections.

1S = Physical Graffiti
2S = Cosmic Charlie
5S = Purple Haze
9S = Dark Star
Quang Ong Self Fertile (QOSF) = American Beauty
Ben Poier H. poly. (BPHP) = Bloody Mary

I did take other varieties, but these are the ones I know for sure
were renamed.

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The first four are listed on The Pine Island Nursery site:

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Yeah, I've seen them there before and had heard last year that some of those were known here in CA by other names. But, in reality, none of them had ever been named by Paul Thomson though he did name 3-S as 'Delight'. The first four on the list above (as well as 3-S, 4-S, 5-S, and 6-S) were crosses between two unknown species which Thomson called 'Neitzel' and 'Rixford'. 'Neitzel' is the only species other than H. undatus that produces white fleshed fruit while 'Rixford' has red-flexhed fruit. Both were reported as having fruits of very good to excellent quality and flavor. Thomson also did two other hybrids from 'Rixford' and 'Houghton'. 'Houghton' may not be Hylocereus but a related genus.

This information is from Paul Thomson's book, Pitahaya, A Promising New Fruit Crop For Southern California, Second Edition August 2002.
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Here's the latest flower on my Hylocereus guatemalensis.

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I've been asked to share the news of the launch a new pitaya discussion forum:

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I would like to invite you to the new PitayaFruit.info message board, where you can discuss the latest information with other growers in the pitaya community. Upload pictures, buy, sale or trade your cuttings or just browse around the different discussions at PitayaFruit.info. Join our community and start sharing your knowledge and interest for pitaya today.

Visit us at Pitaya Fruit message board for dragon fruit growers

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Ante, glad they are growing for you. When mine grow 'skinny' like that (usually in winter) it's because of not enough sun.
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The Los Angeles Chapter of the
California Rare Fruit Growers
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2010 Festival Of Fruit
In Cal Poly Pomona
3801 W. Temple Ave. Bldg 35 Pomona, CA
Main Event Date: 8/14/2010
Celebrating The Year Of the Pitahaya

The Main Events of Saturday, August 14th, 2010 will be held at
The Bronco Student Center Of Cal Poly Pomona
3801 W. Temple Ave. Bldg. 35 Pomona, Ca. 91768
Parking Permits are required,
and will be provided for parking Area C to those arriving before 9:00AM
by CRFG Volunteeers at the parking entrance.

2010 Festival Of Fruit Registration
You have 2 advance registration options:

1) Register Online and pay using PayPal
2) Print the registration form and mail it with a check.
Please Mail in a Separate Form for each attendee.

If you are not a member of CRFG, we also invite you to
join our organization and also join our Los Angeles chapter,
however membership is not required in order to attend this event

FESTIVAL OF FRUIT 2010 Speakers
(Saturday August 14th)
Click on underlined names for biography
This list of speakers is subject to change

Joe Real Fruit Wine Making 101
Charles Portney 29 Years of Amateur Blueberry Growing in So.Cal
Jeff Moersfelder Pomegranates: Vegetative Propagation and an Overview of the
USDA – Davis, National Clonal Germplasm Repository Collection
Bob Hornback A Very Sticky Business: Luther Burbank and His Spineless Cacti
David Karp Frontiers of Fruit
Marita Cantwell Post-Harvest Management Of Pitahayas
Tom del Hotal Eugenias
Joe Sabol Grafting: Hands-On
Greg Partida Fruit Trees: Problems and Solutions
Tom Spellman Best Stone Fruits
Tracy Kahn UCR Citrus Variety Collections And Diversity
Rose Hayden-Smith From Victory Gardens to Urban Agriculture:
Join the Garden Revolution
Ken Love (Keynote) Fruit for the future
Ken Love (Dinner) Sharing Our Fruit Passions
Ramiro Lobo Pitahayas
Roger Meyer Jujubes
Beverly Alfeld Canning And Preserving Fruit
Dario Grossberger Cherimoyas
Gray Martin Pitahayas/Dragonfruit For The Future
C.Todd Kennedy Low Chill Fruits for Southern California
Axel Kratel Rare And Unusual Apples from the Tropics to the North Pole
Julie Frink Avocados
Norman C. Ellstrand Genetic Engineering Tropical and Subtropical Fruit Trees
Bernard Prins Grapes
Doug Fieri Importance of Honey Bees

FESTIVAL OF FRUIT 2010 Speakers
(Saturday August 14th)
Click on underlined names for biography
This list of speakers is subject to change

Joe Real Fruit Wine Making 101
Charles Portney 29 Years of Amateur Blueberry Growing in So.Cal
Jeff Moersfelder Pomegranates: Vegetative Propagation and an Overview of the
USDA – Davis, National Clonal Germplasm Repository Collection
Bob Hornback A Very Sticky Business: Luther Burbank and His Spineless Cacti
David Karp Frontiers of Fruit
Marita Cantwell Post-Harvest Management Of Pitahayas
Tom del Hotal Eugenias
Joe Sabol Grafting: Hands-On
Greg Partida Fruit Trees: Problems and Solutions
Tom Spellman Best Stone Fruits
Tracy Kahn UCR Citrus Variety Collections And Diversity
Rose Hayden-Smith From Victory Gardens to Urban Agriculture:
Join the Garden Revolution
Ken Love (Keynote) Fruit for the future
Ken Love (Dinner) Sharing Our Fruit Passions
Ramiro Lobo Pitahayas
Roger Meyer Jujubes
Beverly Alfeld Canning And Preserving Fruit
Dario Grossberger Cherimoyas
Gray Martin Pitahayas/Dragonfruit For The Future
C.Todd Kennedy Low Chill Fruits for Southern California
Axel Kratel Rare And Unusual Apples from the Tropics to the North Pole
Julie Frink Avocados
Norman C. Ellstrand Genetic Engineering Tropical and Subtropical Fruit Trees
Bernard Prins Grapes
Doug Fieri Importance of Honey Bees

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Date: Time Tour

Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:00-12:00 PM South Coast Field Station
Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:00-12:00 PM Ed And Pat Valdivia
Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:00-11:00 AM Don Winterstein

Friday, August 13, 2010 9:00-11:00 AM Melissa's (Tour Closed)
Friday, August 13, 2010 10:00- 1:00 PM Huntington Gardens

Friday, August 13, 2010 1:00- 2:00 PM Center for Regenerative Studies
Friday, August 13, 2010 2:30- 3:30 PM Pitahaya Plantation

Saturday, August 14, 2010 All Day Speakers & Other Events

Sunday, August 15, 2010 9:00-11:00 AM Elk Creek Ranch
Sunday, August 15, 2010 9:00-12:00 PM Fullerton Arboretum

FESTIVAL OF FRUIT 2010 Plant Sales
(Saturday August 14th)
This list of participants is subject to change
If you wish to participate in Plant Sales at the 2010 Festival of Fruit, please notify Edgar Valdivia

We will also need the following:

1) The name of the Vendor (or business)
2) The vendor's mailing address
3) The vendor's email address
4) A list of what the vendor will be selling.
5) A $50 fee for insurance that CRFG must purchase for the vendors
6) The vendor's registration in the Festival of Fruit
(this can be done separately, on-line or it can be included with the above)
The registration fee is $35 without meals plus any optional fees for meals:
$10 to include lunch, $20 to include dinner, or $30 to include both meals.
Print the registration form or register online here.
Both methods allow you to specify the types of meals that you wish to have included (if any).

We will need all this information with payment by July 31st-that is when we will close all vendor participation.
Make out the check payable to: CRFG-LA Chapter and
mail to K. Payton
22275 Dardenne St.
Calabasas, CA 91302-5869

Papaya Tree Nursery
The Arboreum Company Growers of finest varieties of backyard fruits available as bare root trees.
Roger Meyer
Encanto Farms
Elk Creek Ranch
Southern Sun Seeds
Ken Love Posters
Beverly Alfeld Books related to cooking, caning and preserving
Exotica Nursery

Instructions To Plant Sales Participants:
On the day of the Festival everyone will be parking in Lot C. Someone will be working
at the booth to hand out tickets and give directions. The Plant Sales Participants will
go to parking lot C and when they get to the booth they should tell the person at the
gate (by the unloading zone) that they are a plant sales participant to be let through
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Hey guys, I have some more 'American Beauty' dragon fruit cuttings. Due to limited supply, this time I am selling them for $12 each, that includes shipping to anywhere in the continental United States. I will ship worldwide for $22-30 total($30 would be to Australia or Japan, have to double check though.. if shipping is less than expected..$22 is fine with me).

I have not taken the cuttings yet, so I will cut them as I receive requests.

Let me know if any of you are interested.

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To help demonstrate how Pine Island acknowledges the source of some of these varieties, see how their listing for American Beauty shows "QOSF" at the end of the link:

http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/...pages/QOSF.htm

Again, QOSF stands for Quang Ong Self Fertile. Quang operates a nice nursery in San Diego where I purchased my lychee and jaboticaba plants.
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Would I LOVE to go to that Festival of Fruit!
My DF has 3 little growths on one branch/segment, that seems to be attracting black ants. They are nowhere else on the plant. Could these be the start of flowers??
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Nice looking plants Socal! There are several fruit festivals here in South Florida throughout the year. I think there is one this weekend at Botanical Gardens. They hold a mango festival once a year during mango season. I am now picking several mangos off my trees, so I assume the festival is this weekend or next. I haven't checked though, so it may have passed already.

The fruit & spice park in the Redlands also has several shows throughout the year. They sell plants, fruit, and hold several classes on pretty much anything gardening.

Hope you guys don't mind, but also wanted to remind everyone that I'm selling 'American Beauty' Dragon Fruit cuttings. It is a self fertile variety that is also known as 'Quang Ong Self Fertile'. $12 to anywhere in the continental United States ..WOW, I had put size 6 for it to stand out and it was HUGE!! LOL Sry if anyone had to see that!

I recently was lucky enough to try some fruit from the mother plant, they are excellent! My personal favorite.. although 'David Bowie' is a CLOSE second.

Congrats Ante! It looks like you may have a winner! The growth looks a little skinny(and has bigger spines) compared to mine, maybe it is time to fertilize? I use a water soluble fertilizer(20-20-20). I am no expert though.. It could just be the different climate. As long as it is green, you are good to go from what I understand. If it looks a little yellow, it definitely needs fert. Experts, please feel free to chime in if I'm wrong.

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On the pitaya forum they told me a high K (npk) fert is best. So, I use nana fert - 15-5-30. William Chow ( whom I bought my cuttings from) told me to use higher P fert so I will do that now as it is good for producing blossoms. Well, I'll just go back & forth on that, but I guess they don't like a lot of nitrogen.
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