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seperate the pups
hi guys, my lasiocarpa has 5 pups en i whant 2 know whats the best time 2 seperate from motherplant.
Furder, basjoo 40 pups helens hybride 1 pup DC 3 pups Monkey fingers :-( zero Some european members have tryed tissueculturing? |
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Okey, so take something sharp and chop between the basjoo mother and pup in about 25° angle vertically towards the corm taking a little bit of it for the pup. That's in basjoo and lasiocarpa case. The ideal size for removal is about 40cm and more. I would leave those DC pups on the plant, so that they can grow faster and remove them, when nr.4 emerges. 1 to 3 pups a plant is still a good ratio, their growth is quite balanced. Tissue culturing maybe griphuz.
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Separate the Musella lasiocarpa pups and basjoo pups. I would leave the rest be on the mother corm for now. What plants do you have at your disposal? Those TCs, which cultivars.
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Ensete glaucum Musa nagensium Musa basjoo Musa sikkimensis Manipur(red form) Musa sikkimensis Musa sp ( helens hybrid ) ensete perierii but im waiting for a mail 2 confirm this list. Some one told me is good 2 cut leaves of lasiocarpa pups before placement in container for better root stimulation. is that true? |
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ok i sepparat 2 big pups of the lasiocarpa en put them in containers.
made a little tour in the greenhouse end whaaaaaaa . little bugs on nannas. think spidermites. leaves are grey end brown edges. pup of lasiocarpa from 2008 siam ruby basjoo red ensete ventricosum Daijao. all have spidermite so i cut all the leaves exept the new one. think the most spidermites are gon with tis handeling end sprayed some anti spidermite. hope everything is going ok now. |
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Looks like I have same problem with some Ensetes. Sombody here was talking about spraying leaves with delute soap! What typ of soap and how deluted???
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You have to make some sort of a barrier b4 using any soap on the plants. I repeat, it mustn't get to the roots. The percentage is irrelevant, my friend used very strong percentage (let 1 soap stand in 3 litres and chop it in). It won't hurt the leaves, when it's strong, in will however hurt the roots. This procedure makes a thin film on the leaves and all the parasites simply die out, because they will either be poisoned or won't be able to get ne air... Good luck.
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I've used soaps as a soil drench for fungus gnats.
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What pups did you mean YAKUZA? You haven't separated them yet? I don't understand .
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Some one told me its good 2 cut leaves of lasiocarpa pups before placement in container for better root stimulation. is that true? and how mutche soap in 1l water |
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I also sometimes use the saponate you use to wash up your dishes after the meal. It also effective and it also can't reach roots. Usually, when you stir the mixture and it makes bubbles, it's good. I don't know about that leaf cutting. If I were you, I would cut the leaves on the first group and leave the leaves on the second group of plants and you will see.
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I use 1-2 drops of Dawn Dish Detergent in a 2 qt. spray bottle; seems to work fine. A little goes a long way. Remember to spray top and bottom of leaves as well as soil.
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2 qt. bottle in liters means?
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1 U.S. quart (qt.)=946 ml. (sorry)
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Curious, it's not listed in Google transcalculating subprograms.
It means 0,95 litres.
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