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venturabananas 08-23-2010 09:26 PM

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Thanks Richard. I'll go with once monthly applications for my in-ground plants.

It is not strictly true, however, that toxicity in living organisms comes from quantity, not concentration. As an example using humans, salt, sodium chloride, is an essential nutrient for us. However, if you were eat the amount of salt that you'd need over a month in only one day, you'd be very ill -- because of the high concentration of salt in your tissues. It's both quantity and concentration that matter.

Who wants a salty french fry?

Cheers,
Mark

Richard 08-23-2010 09:33 PM

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Mark, I agree with your point that each organism has an upper capacity for inputs. In my case, if I ate in one day the amount of salt the average American consumes in a day, I'd be sick. :)

tucsonplumeriaz 08-31-2010 01:26 PM

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i have been using pro-sol 10-16-38 with micros. i apply it at 1/4-strength each time i water.

what do you all think?

Richard 08-31-2010 11:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tucsonplumeriaz (Post 140153)
i have been using pro-sol 10-16-38 with micros. i apply it at 1/4-strength each time i water.

what do you all think?

Bananas will only utilize about 1.5 times as much Potash as Nitrogen, and about 1/16 as much Phosphate as Nitrogen. On a yearly basis, they can utilize about 1 net pound of Nitrogen from available sources.

You are feeding them 1.5 times as much Phosphate (P) as Nitrogen, and about 4 times as much Potash (K) as Nitrogen. So, you are wasting P and K. On the other hand, at the given dosage you are probably not exceeding maximums. If you do so, excessive Potash will limit the uptake of other nutrients, particularly Sodium, Iron, and Manganese.

For more information on the role of nutrients, see
Guide to Micronutrients
For a photo guide to nutrition deficiencies, see
http://www.bananas.org/f356/deficien...html#post89519

Worm_Farmer 09-01-2010 07:58 AM

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Richard, Do you think there is anyway we could get Banana Fuel in a Time released fertilizer spike format? I have been using these Fruit and Nut tree spikes on my other plants and seem to have good luck. They easy to use, if I could get Banana Fuel spikes it would make my life super easy.

Justin 09-01-2010 08:48 AM

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What does humic acid add to the plants?

Richard 09-02-2010 12:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Worm_Farmer (Post 140222)
Richard, Do you think there is anyway we could get Banana Fuel in a Time released fertilizer spike format?

Not from Grow More. Neither the owner or I think that fertilizer spikes are an efficient or cost-effective means of feeding plants.

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Originally Posted by Justin (Post 140227)
What does humic acid add to the plants?

Humic Acid is a soil conditioner and not a plant food. It provides a means for plants to sense nutrients in the soil and a substrate for many biological processes. It is a waste to apply humic acid without also having or applying a thick layer of mulch on the soil surface.

nannerfunboi 03-12-2011 05:25 PM

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much thanks richard!!
last yr i used banana fuel.. added to my own mix of rabbit manure tea..and
added kelp,humic,fulvic acids..
plants did great!!! :woohoonaner:
i am very happy with the banana fuel.. thinking of trying bat guano
tea with rabbit manure tea as well..
place i had added coco coir..wow..there are alot of worms..some real
nice nitecrawlers!!!(fishin)..
? anyone else use any kind of bat/seabird guano in there fertilizing
plans on theres nanners?
thanks

Worm_Farmer 03-13-2011 07:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nannerfunboi (Post 156308)
? anyone else use any kind of bat/seabird guano in there fertilizing plans on theres nanners?
thanks

I have used Bat Guano in the past, I do not use it anymore. I found that both times I got some it was very dry and smelled very bad. The bad smell (like ammonia) burned my nose, so I used very little when I mixed it into my potting soil mix. I have also hear the Bat Guno can burn plats fairly easy.

Seabird Guano I have used so far, Is nice and black in color with no foul smells. I would reccomend Seabird, and I personally would mix it with your Rabbit Poo Tea.

If you have worms in the soil now, you should be able to spread dry Rabbit manure other you plant bed's to help feed the worms and keep the soil active.

nannerfunboi 03-13-2011 11:01 AM

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thanks wormfarmer!
most recent bat guano i bought on ebay..small retailer..and
supposedly "fresh" whatever that may mean..
i know what u mean by foul smell..this though is actually
very earthy smelling..like fresh wormcastings..so..???
anyways.. ya..im very pleased with worm population in garden
beds.. :08:
i have about 1/2 truck load of rabbit poo still.. im filling up
a newly created flower bed..so i will put in poo..peat,compost..
by june when i put in my nanners,EE,cannas.. it should be
really good soil ...
?do you make aerated worm casting tea with your worm castings
wormfarmer?? i do..and all my plants seem to respond really well to it..
ive been putting it on my tomato seedlings..and they sing praises after
i put it on them.. :) LOL

Worm_Farmer 03-13-2011 12:23 PM

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I do make Casting Tea from time to time. I really do like using it, and I mix it with the Banana Fuel. This year I do plan on making ALOT more tea, but it will probably be mid summer before I really have a lot of castings to use. After I make the tea I spread the soggy castings around my plants.

nannerfunboi 03-13-2011 12:53 PM

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worm farmer..are u using your big wood bin? or how do u keep compost
worms? i have 4 - 37 gal rubbermaid bins..works good for me..
i save back castings during winter..and use in pot mix..and tea..
i do same with left over from tea.. just add to my compost or just on
garden soil..

caliboy1994 03-07-2012 06:41 PM

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Where can I get some of this Banana Fuel fertilizer? I might want to use it this season.

sunfish 03-07-2012 07:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by caliboy1994 (Post 188612)
Where can I get some of this Banana Fuel fertilizer? I might want to use it this season.

Richard

Plants That Produce at Leucadia Farmers Market

caliboy1994 03-07-2012 08:02 PM

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Is it possible to order?

sunfish 03-07-2012 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by caliboy1994 (Post 188618)
Is it possible to order?

Send a PM. I 'm not sure if he ships anymore

Richard 03-08-2012 02:17 AM

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SUV = new Vector<ShippingUnit>() ;

Until I'm done updating my online shopping cart, an email or PM works just great.

caliboy1994 03-08-2012 11:52 AM

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Okay, I'll let you know when.

mrthegreek 05-10-2012 01:44 PM

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Thanks for all the fertilizer info Richard!
I ordered a 5lb bag of your fertilizer from plantsthatproduce.com, it just shipped, super excited to try it out. I am currently in the process of moving my small basjoos (10 inch pstems) that I have had for a couple of weeks, from containers (for sun acclimation) to the ground. How soon after putting them in the ground should I start fertilizing? I haven't used any fertilizer yet, save for some bone meal. (which I have read is pointless to use this early, is that true BTW?) Anything else I should consider?
Thanks again!

caliboy1994 05-10-2012 02:12 PM

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My plants seem to be responding well to the fertilizer. One of my unknown plants is putting out two pups and nice, green leaves and the others are growing nicely. My Ice Cream plant has an emerging leaf that's tangled, though. Could that be from the fertilizer?


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