Bananas.org

Welcome to the Bananas.org forums.

You're currently viewing our message boards as a guest which gives you limited access to participate in discussions and access our other features such as our wiki and photo gallery. By joining our community, you'll have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Go Back   Bananas.org > Banana Forum > Banana Plant Health And Maintenance Topics
Register Photo Gallery Classifieds Wiki Chat Map Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Banana Plant Health And Maintenance Topics This forum is for discussions of banana plant health topics such as coloration issues, burning, insects, pruning, transplanting, separating pups, viruses, disease, and other general banana plant health and maintenance issues.


Members currently in the chatroom: 0
The most chatters online in one day was 17, 09-06-2009.
No one is currently using the chat.

Reply   Email this Page Email this Page
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-13-2010, 01:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
Location: Thessaloniki/Greece
Zone: 9a
Name: Bernd
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 370
BananaBucks : 50,109
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 228 Times
Was Thanked 419 Times in 159 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 56 Times
Default Smaller and thinner leave after winter

Hi,

two of my survivers of the winter, a Rajapuri and an Ice Cream are showing a significally strange second leaf after growth has started this spring.
The first leaf, that showed, was perfectly normal. But the second leaf was much smaller and thinner. No other signs of damage are visible and the growth hasn't stopped.
Did anyone experience anything like that? I searched the web and this forum, but didn't find anything.
I hope the next leave will normal again...
BB73 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To BB73

Join Bananas.org Today!

Are you a banana plant enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Bananas.org is owned and operated by fellow banana plant enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information. Receive all three issues from Volume 1 of Bananas Magazine with your membership:
   

Join Bananas.org Today! - Click Here


Sponsors

Old 04-13-2010, 03:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
Happy Growing
 
Abnshrek's Avatar
 
Location: Beaumont Texas
Zone: 8b, but 9b weather..
Name: Migael / Michael
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 9,483
BananaBucks : 129,942
Feedback: 45 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 10,444 Times
Was Thanked 16,425 Times in 5,230 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2,314 Times
Default Re: Smaller and thinner leave after winter

Did you just put them in the ground? If so; being the root cause. I've had that happen. :^) Next should be bigger unless the banana isn't getting something in the way of nutrition, water, or light.
__________________
Click for Haughton, Louisiana Forecast

I'm a Nannerhead :^)
Abnshrek is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Abnshrek
Said thanks:
Old 04-14-2010, 01:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
Nanner Time!
 
LilRaverBoi's Avatar
 
Location: Cedar Rapids, IA
Zone: 5
Name: Bryan
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,935
BananaBucks : 96,469
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 534 Times
Was Thanked 2,238 Times in 1,242 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 855 Times
Send a message via AIM to LilRaverBoi
Default Re: Smaller and thinner leave after winter

I wouldn't worry about that at all. It's probably just due to less than optimal conditions during the development of that leaf. That first leaf was probably already developed from previously (last fall, maybe even) when conditions were better and just now came out. I'm sure the more leaves come out, the bigger and wider they will become. Hit it with some fertilizer and wait.

And yeah, if you just transplanted it into the soil, it's likely because the plant is working on putting out some good roots rather than worrying about large leaves. It'll perk up very soon, though!

Either way, nothing to worry yourself about.
__________________
BANANA RAVE!
Feel the beat from start to stop, dancin' and movin' from bottom to top!
lilraverboi@genxglow.com
RIP Tog Tan. We love you and will always remember you!
I'm Bryan with a Y! There is no 'I' in BRYAN!
LilRaverBoi is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To LilRaverBoi
Said thanks:
Old 04-14-2010, 03:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
Location: Thessaloniki/Greece
Zone: 9a
Name: Bernd
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 370
BananaBucks : 50,109
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 228 Times
Was Thanked 419 Times in 159 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 56 Times
Default Re: Smaller and thinner leave after winter

Thanks for your answers.
That's what I expected to hear and what I thought, too. The plants seem to be perfectly alright, except for the smaller leafs.
I transplanted one of the bananas to a bigger pot. The other is still in the same pot. But both of them have these leafs.
The next leaf is underway and I hope it'll be bigger.
BB73 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To BB73
Old 04-14-2010, 03:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
Going Ape for Bananas
 
stumpy4700's Avatar
 
Location: Satellite Beach, Fla
Zone: Zone 10
Name: Stumpy-----a.k.a Jeff
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,194
BananaBucks : 32,471
Feedback: 3 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 1,353 Times
Was Thanked 678 Times in 349 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,300 Times
Default Re: Smaller and thinner leave after winter

Do you have any Pics of it?
stumpy4700 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To stumpy4700
Sponsors

Old 04-14-2010, 04:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
Location: Thessaloniki/Greece
Zone: 9a
Name: Bernd
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 370
BananaBucks : 50,109
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 228 Times
Was Thanked 419 Times in 159 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 56 Times
Default Re: Smaller and thinner leaf after winter

Quote:
Originally Posted by stumpy4700 View Post
Do you have any Pics of it?
Here is my Rajapuri. The smaller and thinner leaf is clearly visible. The plant itself is still small:

Last edited by BB73 : 04-15-2010 at 02:54 AM. Reason: pic available
BB73 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To BB73
Said thanks:
Old 04-15-2010, 09:40 AM   #7 (permalink)
Redeemed
 
AV1611Corbin777's Avatar
 
Location: STL, MO
Zone: 6
Name: Corbin
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 304
BananaBucks : 67,405
Feedback: 2 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 149 Times
Was Thanked 160 Times in 76 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 48 Times
Default Re: Smaller and thinner leave after winter

My Zebrina pup is doing the same thing.
Last 3 leafs have been noticeably smaller than the previous.
I think it is root bound we will see in a couple weeks when it is ground planted.

Good luck.
__________________
The first law of thermodynamics, an expression of the principle of conservation of energy, states that energy can be transformed (changed from one form to another), but cannot be created or destroyed.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermod...thermodynamics

AV1611Corbin777 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To AV1611Corbin777
Old 04-15-2010, 10:46 AM   #8 (permalink)
 
Location: Pageland SC- Zone7b/8a line
Zone: 8
Name: Mike
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 340
BananaBucks : 81,837
Feedback: 3 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 4 Times
Was Thanked 261 Times in 125 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 8 Times
Default Re: Smaller and thinner leave after winter

Have a DC doing something similiar, one of the leaves was really small, they're getting increasingly bigger.
__________________
www.nstarleather.com
North Star Leather Company
Quality Leather Goods-Made in USA!
mbfirey is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To mbfirey
Old 04-15-2010, 11:07 AM   #9 (permalink)
 
m6a6r6ie's Avatar
 
Location: cedar falls,iowa
Zone: hardiness zone: 5
Name: House Of Smeg
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 29
BananaBucks : 9,825
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 1 Times
Was Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times
Default Re: Smaller and thinner leave after winter

Last Winter I had to cut my Burmese Blue banana plant off because it was hitting the ceiling.
Did really good growing through the winter but now it's getting warmer my plant is growing weird.
You can see the leaves are a lot smaller.
I'm sending a pictures along with this.
Do I have a Problem?
Or will it come out of this as it gets warmer?
I don't want to lose my plant.
I need help?
Can e-mail me at: cm.mesenbrink@cfu.net
With an answer.
Thanks
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0075.jpg (1.31 MB, 11 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0074.jpg (1.35 MB, 7 views)
__________________

Lady Christina Marie
m6a6r6ie is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To m6a6r6ie
Old 04-16-2010, 09:05 AM   #10 (permalink)
 
Dean W.'s Avatar
 
Location: Cedar Park, TX
Zone: 8b
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 4,279
BananaBucks : 212,418
Feedback: 13 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 6,325 Times
Was Thanked 2,130 Times in 972 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 300 Times
Default Re: Smaller and thinner leave after winter

Quote:
Originally Posted by m6a6r6ie View Post
Last Winter I had to cut my Burmese Blue banana plant off because it was hitting the ceiling.
Did really good growing through the winter but now it's getting warmer my plant is growing weird.
You can see the leaves are a lot smaller.
I'm sending a pictures along with this.
Do I have a Problem?
Or will it come out of this as it gets warmer?
I don't want to lose my plant.
I need help?
Can e-mail me at: cm.mesenbrink@cfu.net
With an answer.
Thanks
Is the soil moist? Looks like it needs water.
__________________

Dean W. is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Dean W.
Old 04-16-2010, 08:24 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
raggedyredhead's Avatar
 
Location: Woodbridge NJ
Zone: zone7
Name: raggedy
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 256
BananaBucks : 35,249
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 27 Times
Was Thanked 129 Times in 74 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 29 Times
Default Re: Smaller and thinner leave after winter

Hi, same with my Ensete Maurelli(red leaf. New leaf is very small and not red. I fed it so I figured not enough light. Still chilly here in NJ.
raggedyredhead is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To raggedyredhead
Old 04-16-2010, 08:56 PM   #12 (permalink)
Happy Growing
 
Abnshrek's Avatar
 
Location: Beaumont Texas
Zone: 8b, but 9b weather..
Name: Migael / Michael
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 9,483
BananaBucks : 129,942
Feedback: 45 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 10,444 Times
Was Thanked 16,425 Times in 5,230 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2,314 Times
Default Re: Smaller and thinner leave after winter

I had that happen to me last year when I dug a bunch up and potted them. They weren't getting as much light. I'm there was some shock involved as well. Nothing a lil TLC won't cure :^)
__________________
Click for Haughton, Louisiana Forecast

I'm a Nannerhead :^)
Abnshrek is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Abnshrek
Old 04-24-2010, 04:51 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 41
BananaBucks : 11,899
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 2 Times
Was Thanked 29 Times in 14 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times
Default Re: Smaller and thinner leave after winter

I experience that sort of thing in late winter with at least 50 per cent of my plants, and it happens to all species of bananas that I have. It usually happens for about two or three leaves per plant before they return to a more normal broad shaped leaf. watering, light, temps and soil all remain constant through these cycles, and the plants affected all come through no worse for wear. They are not growing slower, but normally, so I don't give it much concern. As far as lopping off a psuedostem because things are getting too big for inside, I think it shakes things up down in "HQ" (corm), but as long as you don't overwater (remember, all of those water evaporators you cut off are gone) things should come back fine after a little weirdness... just make sure there are no mites helping to disfigure those leaves!!
parid09 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To parid09
Old 04-25-2010, 09:01 AM   #14 (permalink)
 
Location: Thessaloniki/Greece
Zone: 9a
Name: Bernd
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 370
BananaBucks : 50,109
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 228 Times
Was Thanked 419 Times in 159 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 56 Times
Default Re: Smaller and thinner leave after winter

Quote:
Originally Posted by parid09 View Post
I experience that sort of thing in late winter with at least 50 per cent of my plants, and it happens to all species of bananas that I have. It usually happens for about two or three leaves per plant before they return to a more normal broad shaped leaf. watering, light, temps and soil all remain constant through these cycles, and the plants affected all come through no worse for wear. They are not growing slower, but normally, so I don't give it much concern. As far as lopping off a psuedostem because things are getting too big for inside, I think it shakes things up down in "HQ" (corm), but as long as you don't overwater (remember, all of those water evaporators you cut off are gone) things should come back fine after a little weirdness... just make sure there are no mites helping to disfigure those leaves!!
Yes, my Rajapuri just developed a second, small and narrow leaf and the next one's about to come out. I can't tell if it'll be also small but I don't worry, because growth is okay and there're no mites or anything else. I watered very carefully, so I hope everything will be back to normal very soon. My Ice Cream also has one of these leafs and seems to grow a bit slower at the moment, but I recently repotted it, so it might develope new roots.
My Basjoo is just fine and started growing like weed - with normal sized leafs.
As it'll get warmer every day now, I expect regualr growth very soon... (temps going up to 25C in the day (70 - 80F).
BB73 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To BB73
Old 05-28-2010, 03:23 PM   #15 (permalink)
 
Location: Thessaloniki/Greece
Zone: 9a
Name: Bernd
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 370
BananaBucks : 50,109
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 228 Times
Was Thanked 419 Times in 159 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 56 Times
Default Re: Smaller and thinner leave after winter

Hi and thank you everybody,

both of my problem kids have recovered.
The Raja puri is back to normal size leafs. About three were smaller.
My Ice Cream is also on it's way back to normal. It took a bit longer and more leafs (about 4 - 5) to normal growth.
But now it's easy, because we had warm - hot weather the whole month, except for about a week with "only" around 20 C during the day.
BB73 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To BB73
Old 05-28-2010, 04:20 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 41
BananaBucks : 11,899
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 2 Times
Was Thanked 29 Times in 14 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times
Default Re: Smaller and thinner leave after winter

It is amazing how fast they spring back once they can go out and play. All of mine are exploding with new "normal" growth. Hope all is well with you there.. things have been sounding a little rough.. Take care and good luck.. Parid.
parid09 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To parid09
Said thanks:

Join Bananas.org Today!

Are you a banana plant enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Bananas.org is owned and operated by fellow banana plant enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information. Receive all three issues from Volume 1 of Bananas Magazine with your membership:
   

Join Bananas.org Today! - Click Here


Sponsors

Reply   Email this Page Email this Page

Previous Thread: Leaves 'STUCK'
Next Thread: Banana pest





Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
curled leave on Blood leave brydon1 Main Banana Discussion 5 06-16-2009 06:52 PM
leave wraping Dalmatiansoap Banana Plant Health And Maintenance Topics 3 04-24-2009 09:02 AM
Too small to leave out? rosebud161616 Cold Hardy Bananas 13 10-19-2008 04:52 PM
Cut-off Or Leave Be! coolrobby2003 Main Banana Discussion 2 09-16-2008 11:01 AM
Help! Banana leaves getting smaller! JoeS475 Main Banana Discussion 8 06-11-2007 09:51 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:05 AM.





All content © Bananas.org & the respective author.