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01-12-2018, 12:35 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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Basjoo - thin and curled leaf just folded
So my single Basjoo didn't do much over summer. It more or less just sat there in my yard and grew a leaf or two, but that was it. So, I didnt feel comfortable overwintering it in the dark corner of my basement with my other bananas and instead put it in my grow tent with my other plants over winter.
I had some spider mites attack it pretty good at one point and hacked it down and since then have been regularly cleaning it. My solution of water to castle soap was too strong at one point and damaged part of the leaves and pseudostem but I thought we were over that as the newest leaf popped out. However, when it unfurled it didn't exactly unfurl. Then after only a few days I came home to find it completely dropped over. Anyone got some direct advice they think could help me here? The one thing I did notice is this leaf seemed thinner than usual |
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Re: Basjoo - thin and curled leaf just folded
The other leaves have heavily dropped now as well and the entire plant appears to have gone south. There are two pups, however, so I guess I'll be raising some Basjoo pups
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Re: Basjoo - thin and curled leaf just folded
as edwmax would say; mist your plants often it helps.
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Re: Basjoo - thin and curled leaf just folded
Interesting ... Tell us about the soil and how much & type of fertilizer you are using. Also please post a full picture of the plant base with the pot & soil.
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Re: Basjoo - thin and curled leaf just folded
Mix of Fox Farm Ocean Forest and my own compost of house scraps (egg shells, coffee grounds, veggies, sticks, leaves, ...). In the past I have used some extra nutrients like Grow Big but I have gotten away from that so as to focus more on bacterial health of the soil and less on liquid nutrients. I have added extra calcium via some Espoma product, but it's probably been two months since I last did (sprinkled on soil surface to dissolve via watering over time)
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Trying to upload photos but the limitations on the site make it tricky to do from my phone.
Alright, cooking with gas. This is in a tent with a 1000w bulb, so the temps around it are generally high 70s. When it was flourishing it was soaking up the water in the soil quite well, from what I could see and I would water it every few days. At this point I watered it sometime mid last week when it was looking not good and it hasn't seemed to suck that up since. This soil might have also had some greensand mixed in with it but I can't recall. Would love to hear any thoughts you have. Last edited by MusaZombie : 01-18-2018 at 08:53 AM. |
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Re: Basjoo - thin and curled leaf just folded
bentonite wont hurt the plant but; dry it doesn't want to take water and when it gets wet it stays wet.
love the pot. going to go to war with Canada? c
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Re: Basjoo - thin and curled leaf just folded
Being the dormant season maybe your killing it with kindness. I would cut back on the watering and temperature and not worry about it growing much for a couple months. Water when it's dry all the way, just keep it alive it should take back off in the spring. That is a cool looking pot, where do you get those?
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Re: Basjoo - thin and curled leaf just folded
[quote=MusaZombie;
You referring to the lime I've added? [/QUOTE] greensand is used for making molds for jewelry to name a few. has bentonite in it.
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Re: Basjoo - thin and curled leaf just folded
Humm ... never seen a pot like that one. OK, water should drain from the pot in about a minute or so after pouring it in. If not then the soil may be too dense.
Now we're back to the nutrients as being the problem. There may be too much or too rich. For this you may have to wait and see if the plant works it way out of it. ... Another problem might be the soil Ph. The bagged soil had the proper PH but when you mixed in your home made compost the Ph may have been raise too hight. Please check the Ph. Nice looking little pups in the photo. |
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Thank you. I had started integrating it as an experiment and maybe this is the end product: failing plants
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Re: Basjoo - thin and curled leaf just folded
If greensand is in the soil mix of the banana (or any bananas), I agree with Beam. ... Repot the banana in a soil mix with 30% - 50% perlite. SOON!
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