Fresh seeds - germination guaranteed

Dalmatiansoap · 12-01-2010, 04:33 AM

I think that this post will help us all to see how important is to get seeds to germination after harvest as soon as possiblle and how that affects on germination time and sprouting rates.
I recived M. Balbisiana seeds from prof. Markku Hakkinnen on 11. Nov., right after his return back home from banana research in China.
He allready posted few pictures of plants and fruits he collected in Tombiguan nature reserve Park

I soaked the seeds for four days and place them in germination box.
TWO WEEKS later first several Balbisiana seeds allready sprouted!

Markku Hakkinen · 12-01-2010, 05:00 AM

Banana seeds are going to dormant quite soon after harvest. So in that respects the fresh seeds are germinating fast. However, the dormant seeds are viable for several years depending on storage. The seeds can germinate if they have some 15 % moisture left. The old seeds germination is very irregular. The longest time was in my seed tests 2-years.
Markku.

nannerfunboi · 12-02-2010, 11:09 AM

i really appreciate all who post on their methods and experiences in
germinating seeds !! thanks !!
seems common experience of sucess in germinating seeds is starting
with fresh or next to fresh seeds..and "properly stored" seeds..
i guess that will be one of my challenges in my experimenting..
getting the freshest seed i can..
ive been buying from a guy on ebay..in georgia.. havent had seed germinate yet..but
im just a newbie..and seed have only been started couple weeks..so..
but thats the fun isnt it..when we do have sucess..its like winning the lotto..

again..thanks to all... happy holidays..

Dean W. · 12-08-2010, 07:09 PM

Nice Ante!

Dalmatiansoap · 12-11-2010, 12:52 PM

Here are some after 10 days

hardboiled (deleted account) · 12-15-2010, 05:41 AM

Help help help help help.

I'm completely new to growing. I've just received some seeds ( MUSA balbisiana ) through ebay which come with instructions saying I need to to:

Soak the seeds for 3 days in tepid water that has been boiled.

Remove the orange tuft BEFORE soaking them( what the hell is it talking about?? ) these seeds are brown nugget shaped things.

Is this right or wrong?

I've seen on the net instructions where bleach is used. That can't be right surely(?)

Help help help. pleeeeease.

Markku Hakkinen · 12-15-2010, 06:23 AM

Hi,
The normal tap water is okay for soaking.
If the is some flesh remaining on seeds the it is good to remove it.
It is not necessary to use any bleach.
The speed of germination depends on how old the seeds are.
Markku.

hardboiled (deleted account) · 12-15-2010, 06:46 AM

Phewww thank god for that.

I assume once I've soaked them for 48 hours I place the seeds in propagator in a dark place, then play the waiting game.

( why on earth would anyone even think of using bleach??? )

Gabe15 · 12-15-2010, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardboiled

Remove the orange tuft BEFORE soaking them( what the hell is it talking about?? ) these seeds are brown nugget shaped things.

My guess is that they are the same instructions they are giving for Strelitzia reginae seeds, which have a very conspicuous "orange tuft".

hardboiled (deleted account) · 12-15-2010, 04:23 PM

Ahhh I see. Well they definitely come with an orange afro so I suppose I'm half way there.

Dalmatiansoap · 12-15-2010, 04:27 PM

Give that guy negative feedback than. U dont have banana seeds

hardboiled (deleted account) · 12-15-2010, 04:36 PM

That's not filling me with confidence. They're hard shaped nugget looking things. They're the 2nd lot I've order from different ebay supplier and look identical.

Think I'll have a look on here for a half decent supplier. Any recommendations ( in the UK )?

Dalmatiansoap · 12-15-2010, 04:41 PM

Try some certifyed seed sellers, out of the ebay.
U can see in pics below how actual banana seeds looks like.

hardboiled (deleted account) · 12-15-2010, 04:45 PM

Here's the ebay ad:

15 Musa Sikkimensis seeds: HARDY BANANA on eBay (end time 18-Dec-10 19

45 GMT)

Dalmatiansoap · 07-03-2011, 07:09 AM

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Markku Hakkinen Markku Hakkinen's Photo Gallery Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 219 BananaBucks : 51,177 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 49 Times Was Thanked 564 Times in 137 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2 Times	Re: Fresh seeds - germination guaranteed Banana seeds are going to dormant quite soon after harvest. So in that respects the fresh seeds are germinating fast. However, the dormant seeds are viable for several years depending on storage. The seeds can germinate if they have some 15 % moisture left. The old seeds germination is very irregular. The longest time was in my seed tests 2-years. Markku.

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hardboiled (deleted account) Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 32 BananaBucks : 10,513 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 5 Times Was Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: Fresh seeds - germination guaranteed Help help help help help. I'm completely new to growing. I've just received some seeds ( MUSA balbisiana ) through ebay which come with instructions saying I need to to: Soak the seeds for 3 days in tepid water that has been boiled. Remove the orange tuft BEFORE soaking them( what the hell is it talking about?? ) these seeds are brown nugget shaped things. Is this right or wrong? I've seen on the net instructions where bleach is used. That can't be right surely(?) Help help help. pleeeeease. Last edited by hardboiled (deleted account) : 12-15-2010 at 06:01 AM.

12-15-2010, 06:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
Markku Hakkinen Markku Hakkinen's Photo Gallery Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 219 BananaBucks : 51,177 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 49 Times Was Thanked 564 Times in 137 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2 Times	Re: Fresh seeds - germination guaranteed Hi, The normal tap water is okay for soaking. If the is some flesh remaining on seeds the it is good to remove it. It is not necessary to use any bleach. The speed of germination depends on how old the seeds are. Markku.

12-15-2010, 06:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
hardboiled (deleted account) Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 32 BananaBucks : 10,513 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 5 Times Was Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: Fresh seeds - germination guaranteed Phewww thank god for that. I assume once I've soaked them for 48 hours I place the seeds in propagator in a dark place, then play the waiting game. ( why on earth would anyone even think of using bleach??? )

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hardboiled (deleted account) Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 32 BananaBucks : 10,513 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 5 Times Was Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: Fresh seeds - germination guaranteed Ahhh I see. Well they definitely come with an orange afro so I suppose I'm half way there.

12-15-2010, 04:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
Dalmatiansoap Let there be light Dalmatiansoap's Photo Gallery Location: Makarska, Croatia Find me on the map! Zone: 9 Name: Ante Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 9,161 BananaBucks : 634,880 Feedback: 10 / 100% Said "Thanks" 6,508 Times Was Thanked 8,384 Times in 3,032 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 720 Times	Re: Fresh seeds - germination guaranteed Give that guy negative feedback than. U dont have banana seeds __________________ https://abnb.me/AXJty518xib

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hardboiled (deleted account) Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 32 BananaBucks : 10,513 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 5 Times Was Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: Fresh seeds - germination guaranteed That's not filling me with confidence. They're hard shaped nugget looking things. They're the 2nd lot I've order from different ebay supplier and look identical. Think I'll have a look on here for a half decent supplier. Any recommendations ( in the UK )? Last edited by hardboiled (deleted account) : 12-15-2010 at 04:38 PM.

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