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PR-Giants 07-09-2023 11:27 AM

Variegated Banana Seeds
 
This site isn't always up so an instagram message is more reliable.

https://www.instagram.com/manini.mountain/


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If you look closely at the top two photos you'll notice that the seed is still connected to the young plant.





The banana plant below was grown from a seed.



This is a seedling.


esmithj333 07-09-2023 10:48 PM

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I’d like to try some seed. $20 for 15-30 seed

patches016 07-10-2023 05:00 PM

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I’d be interested in about 20-30 seeds, so $20-$30?

Jmess 07-10-2023 05:22 PM

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I'd be interested in 15-30 as well depending on price. I am not sure how much they go for but whatever would be around $20-25

beam2050 07-11-2023 04:51 PM

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:ha::ha::ha::ha:

20/ 30 dollars for 10 to 15 seeds. :ha::ha::ha:

your talking to a wholesaler who has to pay somebody 20 dollars an hour to strip the seeds out of a banana a banana so you can get 10? :ha::ha::ha: you know some of those plants can put out a lot of bananas.

easier to ship the whole banana with 20 seeds , you can clean em????? maybe how about 3/4/5/7 bananas for 10 dollars.??? if he is going to take the time to ship to you.

AND IF IT'S IN THE NANNER YOU CAN'T SAY IT AINT FRESH. :ha:

and if he has as many nanners as he says he has got, he is selling the seeds wholesale also.

so, up your price. buying from pr-giants is like winning the lotto here. you can't get a better deal. so don't treat thissss like ebay. so what is what he is selling really worth to you? so instead of 10 seeds yu can get well into the hundreds.

esmithj333 07-11-2023 07:26 PM

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After doing a bit more research, I agree with beam on this one. I was wrong on my initial post price. I’d be willing pay 2-3 dollars a seed PR-Giants. Let me know if that works for you sir.

psa 07-12-2023 05:14 AM

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I would certainly be on board for seedy bananas:banana_baat the kind of prices that have been suggested here.

Charles G. 07-12-2023 06:29 AM

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I'm interested just let me know when they are available. Will we know the varieties or will these be new varieties?

Jmess 07-12-2023 11:12 AM

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I'd be up for more than 15-30 seeds. Whatever would be worth it to send me a package. I love variegated bananas. I'm horrible at pricing in general though so it's hard for me know what range to offer.

beam2050 07-17-2023 07:34 PM

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what did i do? what i usually do, i went out of the box!.... it could be but another failure. but it might be food for u.

to start with, me and pr-giants had some pms about growing tc's in aquarium rock. it was with his suggestion that i should have no problem with growing tc's with his way of starting young bananas.

tc's can be tough, especially with over watering. so i finally did it, after a number growing bananas doing it in this way, that got my confidence up to do this; i bought a patupi from the darkman. it is in the right hand of the picture , and it's growing well.

so now the rock is working so well with young tc's..... so i am kind of wondering...

so i am wondering will it work....with seeds?

in the picture there is 3 pots with nothing in them but seeds. sorry about the quality of the picture, but it is just pots with nothing in them but seeds,,, right?. i bought the seeds cheap on e-bay. with the lava rock it cost me about 50 bucks.

beam2050 07-18-2023 06:52 AM

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woops, i spoke to soon. here is what popped up last night.

ensete glaucum. planted about a month ago.

i might have to start a new thread, instead of trashing up this one.

Jeff zone 8 N.C. 07-18-2023 08:18 AM

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Woo Hoo! Congrats! I will have to try the rocks myself. What are the temps they were exposed to?

beam2050 07-18-2023 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff zone 8 N.C. (Post 353443)
Woo Hoo! Congrats! I will have to try the rocks myself. What are the temps they were exposed to?

hot, in the 90's

Jeff zone 8 N.C. 07-18-2023 02:47 PM

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So I assume they are outside in shade with nights running mid 70'sF and you watering daily or with daily rain showers?

beam2050 07-18-2023 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff zone 8 N.C. (Post 353447)
So I assume they are outside in shade with nights running mid 70'sF and you watering daily or with daily rain showers?

very correct in assuming. i do not believe your temps would change things in growth.

beam2050 08-07-2023 01:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beam2050 (Post 353352)
:ha::ha::ha::ha:

20/ 30 dollars for 10 to 15 seeds. :ha::ha::ha:

your talking to a wholesaler who has to pay somebody 20 dollars an hour to strip the seeds out of a banana a banana so you can get 10? :ha::ha::ha: you know some of those plants can put out a lot of bananas.

easier to ship the whole banana with 20 seeds , you can clean em????? maybe how about 3/4/5/7 bananas for 10 dollars.??? if he is going to take the time to ship to you.

AND IF IT'S IN THE NANNER YOU CAN'T SAY IT AINT FRESH. :ha:

and if he has as many nanners as he says he has got, he is selling the seeds wholesale also.

so, up your price. buying from pr-giants is like winning the lotto here. you can't get a better deal. so don't treat thissss like ebay. so what is what he is selling really worth to you? so instead of 10 seeds yu can get well into the hundreds.

seeing the amount of posts, actually the lack of posts. i don't believe yall got it.

a banana falls in the forest with 1000's of seeds. what happens if all those seeds germinate. to much competition in a given area. right? so from the git go not all seeds from a banana are made to survive. right?.

and also what i tried to say is, it takes time to pick the seeds out of a banana to sell them 1 by 1. and somebody has to pay that person real money for the labor. i don't know but i think those people picking seeds also like cars, eating and tv's. and cell phones. :ha:

HERE IS MY OFFER.

i want the whole banana or should i say as many bananas that can be stuffed in a medium box, 25 dollars and i also pay the shipping. 35 dollars for a large box.

:lurk:

Jeff zone 8 N.C. 08-07-2023 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by beam2050 (Post 353568)
seeing the amount of posts, actually the lack of posts. i don't believe yall got it.

a banana falls in the forest with 1000's of seeds. what happens if all those seeds germinate. to much competition in a given area. right? so from the git go not all seeds from a banana are made to survive. right?.

and also what i tried to say is, it takes time to pick the seeds out of a banana to sell them 1 by 1. and somebody has to pay that person real money for the labor. i don't know but i think those people picking seeds also like cars, eating and tv's. and cell phones. :ha:

HERE IS MY OFFER.

i want the whole banana or should i say as many bananas that can be stuffed in a medium box, 25 dollars and i also pay the shipping. 35 dollars for a large box.

:lurk:

Sounds like a good idea to help PR Giants save time and make it easy. I really have no idea how much these seeds are worth. For these valuable rare seeds I would say a higher end price but I do not know things like how easy they are to make, how abundant they are, or what percentages of sprouting one would get. Certainly he deserves a fair return on his efforts. I will say that PR Giants has seemed to be very fair in his past pricing of products. I would be willing to share back with him any progeny that he desired or deemed worthy of his further research which would help his endeavor and give back to him for doing such important work with bananas. I would also be willing to buy larger bulk and redistribute them out to members if that would help him, since it would also help all of us banana people.

AaronTT 08-07-2023 01:48 PM

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Id like to buy some when available.

jsaltos23 08-25-2023 11:55 AM

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I am interested, please send me more information!

PR-Giants 11-06-2023 07:32 PM

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These are beautiful plants.

Nov 6, 23

Charles G. 11-06-2023 07:50 PM

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Yes, they are. What variety are those?

PR-Giants 11-06-2023 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles G. (Post 354473)
Yes, they are. What variety are those?

I have no idea, some wild bananas are not easy for me to identify.

This member was able to identify the variety from just looking at the seeds. :waving:

http://www.bananas.org/f30/growing-a...d-52513-5.html

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Originally Posted by Valor_X (Post 343797)
I'm going to try a few ways to germinate the seeds and I'll update this thread.

I have some in a nice Humidity Dome with a thermostat controlled heat mat & LED grow light once they germinate.
I also have several outside to take in the natural heat & humidity (but no direct sun) under my porch.

For these I'm using 50/50 Peat Moss / Perlite mix

I'll also try just planting some places around the yard to see if the all-natural method works as well.





Thank you PRGiants for acquiring the seeds! :bananas_b
I'm super stoked... Let's Go! :08:


PR-Giants 11-06-2023 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles G. (Post 354473)
Yes, they are. What variety are those?

Ask Gabe, I sent him a bunch of seeds a few years ago and he's probably been able to identify them. If you find out let me know.

PR-Giants 11-06-2023 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by beam2050 (Post 353568)
seeing the amount of posts, actually the lack of posts. i don't believe yall got it.

Sorry about that, I had too many projects going on to find and collect the wild seeds and when I do find them it's usually after they germinate. The prices suggested are more than reasonable.

Jeff zone 8 N.C. 11-06-2023 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PR-Giants (Post 354472)
These are beautiful plants.

Nov 6, 23

Very beautiful plant. I want one. I see some yellow in some lower leaves. Does it maintain the bright yellow on all leaves.

PR-Giants 11-07-2023 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff zone 8 N.C. (Post 354478)
Very beautiful plant. I want one. I see some yellow in some lower leaves. Does it maintain the bright yellow on all leaves.

The yellow does remain bright on the older leaves. This photo is a terrible representation of how bright the yellow truly is. I had to wait until the sun completely dropped behind the mountain so it would block any direct sunlight on that leaf before being able to get a photo that was in focus. If you look closely you can see that the plants in the background are still in direct sun.

PR-Giants 11-07-2023 02:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beam2050 (Post 353568)

a banana falls in the forest with 1000's of seeds. what happens if all those seeds germinate. to much competition in a given area. right? so from the git go not all seeds from a banana are made to survive. right?.

Not all the seeds will germinate at the same time, some can easily delay germination by a couple of years. The first seeds normally germinate in about 3 weeks.

Here's a bunch that fell to the ground.


Jeff zone 8 N.C. 11-07-2023 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PR-Giants (Post 354486)
Not all the seeds will germinate at the same time, some can easily delay germination by a couple of years. The first seeds normally germinate in about 3 weeks.

Here's a bunch that fell to the ground.


Thats sort of like Butia palm seed here. If you collect the seed and put in a tray to sprout you get ok germination but if you just let them fall on the ground and let nature take it's course or if you throw the unsprouted seeds away they sprout like crazy.

beam2050 11-12-2023 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PR-Giants (Post 354477)
Sorry about that, I had too many projects going on to find and collect the wild seeds and when I do find them it's usually after they germinate. The prices suggested are more than reasonable.

:ha: dang, and i was looking to cause a bidding war. :ha:

Bananas are herbs12837372 11-26-2023 09:07 PM

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I’ll do 5 bananas for $10

PR-Giants 01-25-2024 01:38 PM

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A few weeks ago I found this variegated seedling growing alongside the road and decided to bring her to the farm. She's recovering nicely from the move.


all43 01-26-2024 12:49 AM

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How cool is that ' growing alongside the road '. Looks a great find mate!


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Originally Posted by PR-Giants (Post 354889)
A few weeks ago I found this variegated seedling growing alongside the road and decided to bring her to the farm. She's recovering nicely from the move.



PR-Giants 01-31-2024 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by all43 (Post 354894)
How cool is that ' growing alongside the road '. Looks a great find mate!

I saw a vertical line of yellow poking through the tall grasses in my side view mirror and thought it might be a variegated cigar leaf. A few days later I went back to investigate and that's what I found, right place right time. :08:

Jeff zone 8 N.C. 01-31-2024 09:16 AM

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Oh the times in my life I have glanced a possible interesting plant while driving and turned around to investigate. But in a rear view mirror. You have me beat on that one. Very cool.

beam2050 02-05-2024 11:57 AM

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:2784: dollar a seed is very hard to beat.

PR-Giants 02-26-2024 11:09 AM

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All pending seed orders were shipped on Saturday 2/24 and are being delivered today, Monday 2/26.

I would appreciate that anyone starting a thread about their seed progress please post a link on this thread so myself and other members can easily find the information.

Thanks

Jeff zone 8 N.C. 02-26-2024 08:13 PM

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Got my seeds today! Thank you PR-Giants very much for distributing these rare seeds to our members here. Already have mine soaking in rain water, in a insulated cooler, on a heat mat set for 88F. Timer turns heat off for 7.5 hours which lets the cooler slowly cool down to 72F. Will change water every day for 3 days then plant shallow in lightly packed mix. Unless someone else suggests better temps for germination or a wet / dry regimen or any other recommendations I will continue this treatment.

mchris752 04-14-2024 08:49 AM

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Anyone get germination yet? Interested in seeing how they do.

Jeff zone 8 N.C. 04-14-2024 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mchris752 (Post 355244)
Anyone get germination yet? Interested in seeing how they do.

Nothing here yet. Should there be some already? I think banana seeds are very sleepy. I put mine in a moist well drained mix and placed the containers in a large aquarium, with a vented cover, and on 3 different levels with a heat mat on the bottom of the aquarium. No group sets directly on the mat. The heat is set for 91F but it only got to the mid 80"s F for the 1st weeks. I then added a small incandescent light bulb to assist the heat mat. The timer cuts all off for 7 hours each night so the temps inside drop to 72F. When the heat comes back on it takes a little while to get to the max temp.. They are near a south facing window so sun partially strikes the aquarium for a 2-3 hours each day but the temps then only go to 97F. The three different levels of placement means each group gets slightly different temps and moisture levels. The top group of course dries out quicker.
Hope others will post their methods so we all can see what works.

Jeff zone 8 N.C. 04-14-2024 08:03 PM

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Forgot to mention. I soaked my seed for 3 days in clean warm rain water, changed with fresh rain water each day. Then after planting have only re-watered with clean warm rain water.

PR-Giants 04-27-2024 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff zone 8 N.C. (Post 355246)
I soaked my seed for 3 days

Why?

Jeff zone 8 N.C. 04-27-2024 06:52 PM

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Because that worked for me before and most of the info on line said so and no one else offered any better advice. Also many places where bananas grow wild seem to get plentiful rain. Would appreciate it if you could share a better way. I'm always willing to learn.

PR-Giants 04-28-2024 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff zone 8 N.C. (Post 355358)
Because that worked for me before and most of the info on line said so and no one else offered any better advice. Also many places where bananas grow wild seem to get plentiful rain. Would appreciate it if you could share a better way. I'm always willing to learn.

I look to Nature for information before looking online. Fossil records have shown that bananas were growing in the Americas over 165 millions years ago and it's doubtful someone was soaking the seeds for 3 days prior to planting back then. And most people that grow seeded bananas that produce fruit know that seeds that fall to the ground will grow like weeds without soaking.

Moisture is very important, but 3 days of pre-wetting before wetting seems unlikely to be helpful. If there is a study that shows 3 days of pre-wetting before wetting improves germination rates then I wouldn't be surprise to find a study that shows 4 days of pre-wetting before the 3 days of pre-wetting before wetting improves germination rates even more.

I focus on maintaining a high soil moisture with high soil aeration and do not recommend the first technique I used that accidentally produced my first variegated banana seedling. I buried the banana fruit deep into an active compost pile hoping the heat would kill the seeds. One day I was turning the pile and noticed these long sprouts well underground and decided to plant one to figure out what kind of plant they were. It turned out to be a banana plant, which was surprising but even more surprising was the plant was variegated. The original plant I grew that produced the fruit I composted was not visually variegated.

Jeff zone 8 N.C. 04-28-2024 10:45 AM

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Agree on all you say here. I also try to take natures way into account. But which nature? Here is my thought process. There are many regions, of the world, that grow bananas, naturally, from seed. I think all (?) have warmth and moisture in common. There are banana regions with monsoons that soak banana seeds for more than 3 days so I guess nature takes care of that in some way. At least I hope so. It has always seemed to work on other seeds before. In my case getting these seeds at the beginning of winter forced me to either wait for spring (too impatient) or do the best I could with indoor artificial conditions. Since I had no instructions except the internet then I tried what I hoped would work, based on my research. I also have been altering temps and dryness to simulate nature. We have been having very warm days for some time now but nights in the high 50'sF, till now, when they have run in the 60'sF at night. I will be moving them outside soon to experience more natural conditions. Your above instruction is helpful. I have had things pop up in compost piles too but no banana. I wish! Any instruction is appreciated.

PR-Giants 04-28-2024 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff zone 8 N.C. (Post 355363)

But which nature? Here is my thought process. There are many regions, of the world, that grow bananas, naturally, from seed. I think all (?) have warmth and moisture in common. There are banana regions with monsoons that soak banana seeds for more than 3 days so I guess nature takes care of that in some way.

I didn't have any information from clients in North Carolina so I used information from a client growing in the banana region of South Carolina that said the fallen seeds grow like weeds.

You bring up a good point that bananas seeds will germinate in regions with monsoons and without monsoons. Based on that information I concluded that soaking seeds is unnecessary but also that soaking is not detrimental to germination.

Here's a photo of some a'ea'e rhizomes I sent to that South Carolina client, who runs a large online tropical nursery and also a member of this great website.


Jeff zone 8 N.C. 04-28-2024 09:40 PM

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Beautiful in a group together like that!

Jeff zone 8 N.C. 06-19-2024 09:02 PM

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A couple weeks ago I had my 1st seed of the PR-Giants variegated seed batch sprout in their outdoor conditions. Have seen no other movement until today when 3 more sprouts came up. These sprouts were not showing yesterday. I guess they are liking the dry, low humidity, warm 70s to 80sF days and nights in the higher 60sF low 70sF and me sprinkling a little well water on them to keep them moist. I have run out of rain water as it has been so dry. The planting medium has been having some dry and wet cycles, but never completely dry. The planted seed are in dappled sunlight for part of the day now too.

PR-Giants 06-29-2024 10:13 AM

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Any updates?

This is a message sent to an eBay customer and might be informative to members here.

"Congrats, the process is a learning experience and your technique should improve with more experience. The leaves will unfurl very quickly, be sure you have enough sunlight you do not want long stem seedlings that can't support their weight. If the leaves of the seedlings unfurl in full sun they will immediately be acclimated to full sun. If they are grown in shade they will need to be acclimated later. Remember that any green seedlings will produce variegated offshoots so don't discard them.

I'm glad you were successful."


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Originally Posted by Jeff zone 8 N.C. (Post 355746)
A couple weeks ago I had my 1st seed of the PR-Giants variegated seed batch sprout in their outdoor conditions. Have seen no other movement until today when 3 more sprouts came up. These sprouts were not showing yesterday. I guess they are liking the dry, low humidity, warm 70s to 80sF days and nights in the higher 60sF low 70sF and me sprinkling a little well water on them to keep them moist. I have run out of rain water as it has been so dry. The planting medium has been having some dry and wet cycles, but never completely dry. The planted seed are in dappled sunlight for part of the day now too.


Jeff zone 8 N.C. 06-29-2024 08:00 PM

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I now have five sprouted seed. None have stretched yet. All seem ok but am trying to keep them dry now as we have had some heavy rains. They are getting more sun than when they 1st sprouted. Appreciate the tips on growing them. I will put new sprouts in full sun.

PR-Giants 02-22-2025 09:53 AM

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