TERNPC - The latest greatest????

Chironex · 09-18-2008, 01:53 AM

Just wondered how many of you have read about this process and know anything about it. It claims to be better, faster, cheaper and more productove than TC for over 550 different types of plants (don't know if bananas are one of them)

Here is a post I found in AgLinks from Australia.

A new method of plant propagation - AgLinks Forums

Richard · 09-18-2008, 02:14 AM

Seems like professor Li is selling a propagation elixir.

xavierdlc61887 · 09-18-2008, 02:43 AM

sounds interesting

51st state · 09-22-2008, 07:36 AM

Hi Scot

Hmmmm.

sounds too good to be true, in which case...

I would guess its a money up front deal. I'd run a mile from it.

e mail them and ask for references of western companies/individuals who have done it successfully

Chironex · 10-31-2008, 12:26 PM

Anyone heard any more about this? I am quite curious how it works.

Richard · 10-31-2008, 02:11 PM

I am curious about two things:

IF it works; i.e., an independent study showing positive outcomes.
HOW it works; i.e., bio-chemical processes involved. The website has 0% meaningful content in this regard.

Chironex · 10-31-2008, 06:35 PM

I would imagine that they want to keep it as proprietary information while they set up licensees. It won't be long before we read about it from somewhere. Sure will be interesting to find out how it works.

Richard · 10-31-2008, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chironex

I would imagine that they want to keep it as proprietary information while they set up licensees. It won't be long before we read about it from somewhere. Sure will be interesting to find out how it works.

"They" are a Chinese company that has been trying to sell the TERNPC product/procedure for at least 10 years: Beijing LI CHANGXIAO TERNPC Co., Ltd

Chironex · 10-31-2008, 10:57 PM

It sounds to me like he is just putting medium into the soil and putting the explant into it with something to counteract contamination. Ingredients like coconut water, activated charcoal and growth regulators.
Sure wish I could find out more detailed info.

Richard · 11-01-2008, 12:47 AM

Scot, for your thesis I know you learned how to perform a review of the literature. It would be unusual if Li or someone from the company did not present a paper or two at a conference.

Chironex · 11-01-2008, 02:50 AM

Precisely, I have been searching high and low for that research, someone must have published it somewhere. Unfortunately, one must rifle through many search pages for the good Doctor and it seems that there is another doctor similarly named, complicating matters worse. (Not to mention that Li is a common surname in China)
If you find something, by all means, let me know. I have heard of cotton, activated charcoal and even peat moss used as a substrate medium, but contamination is the missing component here.

Richard · 11-01-2008, 05:08 PM

Have you tried asking the company for bibliography of conference and technical papers discussing TERNPC?
Beijing LI CHANGXIAO TERNPC Co., Ltd

Chironex · 11-01-2008, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard

Have you tried asking the company for bibliography of conference and technical papers discussing TERNPC?
Beijing LI CHANGXIAO TERNPC Co., Ltd

I have sent an email, but have not received a reply. I think that they have covered their tracks intentionally. But if it's out there, I want to find it.

Richard · 11-02-2008, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chironex

... I think that they have covered their tracks intentionally. ...

I don't think so. It is in the company's best interest to get the positive attention of the academic community. The only thing they would want to hide is a unilateral rejection by academia.

Chironex · 11-17-2008, 10:05 PM

Update: Reply received from the company.

"Thank you for your registration. If you are interested in TERNPC of young plants propagation , please provide us a brief introduction of your company ,specify the economic plant varieties that you want to Cloning so that we can know better each other, and further discuss how to fast cooperate . Ours"TERNPC" technique has already succeeded to apply to 700 kinds of plants in 20years.That technique is extensively applied on the agriculture and the economic plant.We are willing to develop our technology in your plac. We will be interested to look for the cooperation project together. We finally will profit from this technology. We also welcome you to visit Beijing to have face-to-face talk.If you have any other question, please don't hesitate to contact me and keep in touch with me. Our technique which is easier than tissue culture will solve your problem.

Best regards,

www.clonep.com/english
Beijing TERNPC company

lcx
2008-11-06"

So, all I need to do is visit them in Beijing.

Richard · 11-18-2008, 12:26 AM

Well, I encourage everyone here in the nursery stock business to send a letter of interest inquiring how to get started at your nursery site. Then in a month or two we can all make tentative plans to visit Beijing -- and see how they feel about receiving a group of 20 people.

frog7994 · 10-01-2009, 10:24 AM

I'm looking for TC pineapples that I can buy here in the USA does any one have some links that I can go to any buy?

Richard · 10-01-2009, 10:38 AM

O.K., kind of a strange thread for pineapples! But here you go: Agri-Starts, Inc. - Edibles

frog7994 · 10-01-2009, 02:26 PM

I went there they have not produced any this year. it's seems no one is is producing any do you know of any one else? Thanks for any info you might have

damaclese · 10-01-2009, 04:56 PM

why not just plant some topes from fuite you buy in the store its cheep and you get to eat the sweet fruit on top of it thats what i did i now have 6 plants 3 are golden and the others i dont know but thire all growing like crasy ones grown 2 ft this summer alon i started that one in feb well its just a thought i know its not the purist way but its easy

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Chironex The causasian Asian! Chironex's Photo Gallery Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Find me on the map! Zone: I have no idea Name: Scot Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,788 BananaBucks : 118,353 Feedback: 9 / 100% Said "Thanks" 4,544 Times Was Thanked 1,406 Times in 808 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 609 Times	Re: TERNPC - The latest greatest???? I would imagine that they want to keep it as proprietary information while they set up licensees. It won't be long before we read about it from somewhere. Sure will be interesting to find out how it works. __________________ Scot

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Chironex The causasian Asian! Chironex's Photo Gallery Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Find me on the map! Zone: I have no idea Name: Scot Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,788 BananaBucks : 118,353 Feedback: 9 / 100% Said "Thanks" 4,544 Times Was Thanked 1,406 Times in 808 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 609 Times	Re: TERNPC - The latest greatest???? Precisely, I have been searching high and low for that research, someone must have published it somewhere. Unfortunately, one must rifle through many search pages for the good Doctor and it seems that there is another doctor similarly named, complicating matters worse. (Not to mention that Li is a common surname in China) If you find something, by all means, let me know. I have heard of cotton, activated charcoal and even peat moss used as a substrate medium, but contamination is the missing component here. __________________ Scot

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Chironex The causasian Asian! Chironex's Photo Gallery Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Find me on the map! Zone: I have no idea Name: Scot Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,788 BananaBucks : 118,353 Feedback: 9 / 100% Said "Thanks" 4,544 Times Was Thanked 1,406 Times in 808 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 609 Times	Re: TERNPC - The latest greatest???? Update: Reply received from the company. "Thank you for your registration. If you are interested in TERNPC of young plants propagation , please provide us a brief introduction of your company ,specify the economic plant varieties that you want to Cloning so that we can know better each other, and further discuss how to fast cooperate . Ours"TERNPC" technique has already succeeded to apply to 700 kinds of plants in 20years.That technique is extensively applied on the agriculture and the economic plant.We are willing to develop our technology in your plac. We will be interested to look for the cooperation project together. We finally will profit from this technology. We also welcome you to visit Beijing to have face-to-face talk.If you have any other question, please don't hesitate to contact me and keep in touch with me. Our technique which is easier than tissue culture will solve your problem. Best regards, www.clonep.com/english Beijing TERNPC company lcx 2008-11-06" So, all I need to do is visit them in Beijing. __________________ Scot

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