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Old 06-16-2009, 06:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 'Veinte Cohol' bananas are ripe, 2 months later.

True to the hype, they ripened up almost exactly 60 days after the first hand opened up in April. Not a lot to brag about, but hey...they are bananas, LOL!



Well, really there are five hands, but I don't think that the 2 deformed squirts in the middle really count...do they? With them counted, it was 5 hands, 35 fingers total.


First taste test was...disappointing. A grocery store banana has more flavor. I'll leave them out on the counter for a couple of days and try them again.

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Old 06-16-2009, 07:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hey, Frank, congrats! Dr. Wallace reported that most people reported the flavor as very good so, hopefully, they'll taste much better in a few days.

Any idea on the average weight on those bananas?

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Those are some plump little buggers! Congrats!!
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Hey, Frank, congrats! Dr. Wallace reported that most people reported the flavor as very good so, hopefully, they'll taste much better in a few days.

Any idea on the average weight on those bananas?

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At his profile page it looks like he's out standing in bananas (lame pun intended) Dr. Richard Wallace | Chemistry and Physics

He had posted here before but isn't active these days.
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THOSE ARE JUST THE CUTEST BANANAS EVER!
Thanks for sharing the pics. I can't wait until they become more commonly available.

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Very cool and exiting Frank. 2 months as advertised is something !!! Hopefully with some time they'll sweeten up. I just got a note from Katie at G.B.and hope to get mine soon.
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ok.... I'm going to go see if I can still get in line to buy one!! Thanks so much for the pics!!

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Those are beautiful bananas, Frank! I've pretty much given up with my latest experience with VC. I'm focusing on dwarf orinoco for now since it stores so easily in a crawlspace. Maybe I can at least get this banana to give me fruit!
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Frank, you are simply my star. Hope that one day my plants will produce jsut as much.
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That is really a really fast time from first finger to ripe - the flavour will probably get better as they mature. Congratulations!! I have never had anything ripen in less than 4 months - are they renown for being fast?
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Yes, I think that is sort of their claim to fame: early to fruit and quick to ripen.
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Default Re: 'Veinte Cohol' bananas are ripe, 2 months later.

Well, I can't say that the flavor has really improved any, IMHO. The first thing you notice is how soft the texture is of the fruit. You think you might almost be able to eat the peel, it is so soft and thin, and comes off very easily. The first flavor I notice is a distinct peel taste, almost like it gets in your nose. Then that is followed by a very bland banana flavor. The last flavor I noticed is a definite "bite" at the end. The tartness comes with a nice, sweet flavor, and almost makes up for the complete blandness in the middle. But not quite.

I don't particularly care for the texture of this banana. It's too soft! The only redeeming quality I notice is the nice, tart and sweet bite at the end. It's a nice little sensation, really! Oh well, what do you want from a banana that ripens in 60 days?

I will note that this was greenhouse-grown, not field-grown. Don't know if that makes a difference or not. Dr. Wallace states in his article that "'Veinte Cohol' has a dynamic banana flavor with slight acidity and citrus undertones. It is considered by most who taste it to be of excellent quality."

I'll try again!

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cuties little fat things.
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I would love to buy a pup of that banana. have any for sale?
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Old 06-19-2009, 06:23 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Frank, I'm hoping that theyll be better quality like Dr. Wallace reported if I get them to fruit in the ground. In your discussion thread at Oh No! My Viente Cohol is going to flower! it seems like your plant was a bit small to be flowering and maybe the stress contributing to the smaller plant size and maybe also less banana flavor??

I've found it difficult to always keep my plants watered, etc. in pots but that's always a temporary situation for me.
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Default Re: 'Veinte Cohol' bananas are ripe, 2 months later.

Harvey, they were even smaller than the one's Dr. Wallace grew in the ground, lol. He reported them to be around 3 inches. Mine were between 1 and 2 inches! I hope that being in a pot in the greenhouse contributed to the average flavor. BTW, I weighed one for you. 1 ounce! LOL! It was never a problem keeping it watered, since it was kept at the greenhouse where I work every day, and I water every day anyway. It probably didn't get the proper nutrition though, although I fertilized it weekly...weakly. It was stressed also, and didn't have enough leaves for much of a bunch. I still don't know though...I have tasted Dwarf Cavendish from our same greenhouse, and it was pretty good. I still prefer the old grocery store bananas though.

Carmensol, I don't have any pups for sale...yet.

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I've found it difficult to always keep my plants watered, etc. in pots but that's always a temporary situation for me.
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Thanks, Frank. As I recall, Dr. Wallace reported that the bunches averaged 150 fingers and 15 pounds, so that would be 1.6 ounces each. Still small, but not quite as tiny as yours.

I wonder if the length of daylight might have anything to do with the taste of bananas or the development of the flower before it emerges. Just some things I'm wondering about.

You better watch your comments here, you might get run out of the place saying you prefer store-bought bananas. I'll leave it up to Pete or someone else 'cause you're too big of a dog for me! :P

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Good show Frank, its an interesting cultivar. I was talking with Don Chafin a bit ago and he was wondering why everyone wanted Veinte Cohol so bad all of the sudden, he told me he thought they weren't that good for eating compared to most others.

I'm currently growing out Senorita and Pisang Berlin, both reputed 40 day bananas (40 days from flag to harvest). I hope to see fruit from the Pisang Berlin later this year or early next year if bunchy top doesn't get to it first.
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