Near White Leaves

austinl01 · 07-08-2015, 10:38 PM

Good evening. I need some help. My client has a weird problem.

A couple years ago, I planted musa basjoo next to my client's house. They grow each year to about five feet overall height, but then all of a sudden develop a whitish leaf from the center and tend to stop growing. The fronds that have emerged lately are also skinnier. The older growth is a nice green color so I am perplexed. I apply regular watering and organic fertilizer called PlantTone. Do you have any suggestions?

I have grown basjoo for over 10 years but have never had an issue like this.

Thank you.

Austin

scottu · 07-09-2015, 06:15 PM

Need some pics, you will get a much bigger response with pics!
Rough guess too much fert.

siege2050 · 07-09-2015, 06:39 PM

I have issues in my yard due to low PH. In acidic soils some minerals become unavailable like calcium. Unless I treat mine with calcium nitrate, gypsum etc. I get stunting with some banana, especially Musa Sikkimensis. Whitish new leaves that are very thin and easy to tear, narrow leaves, and eventually spear like leaves that twist, with dead patches. Might not be the same, but the white leaves sound similar, as do the narrow description. You might check the PH and see what its like. Mine is about 5.5, pretty acidic. Perhaps it might also be the higher temps of summer, at high temperature growth slows.

austinl01 · 07-13-2015, 07:41 AM

Pics!
[url=http://s24.photobucket.com/user/austinl01/media/Bananas/20150711_091418_zpsqojvwm1t.jpg.html]

siege2050 · 07-13-2015, 11:06 AM

Yeppers I am pretty sure that is calcium, deficiency, as least part of the problem anyway. http://www.haifa-group.com/knowledge_center/deficiencies/crops/orchards/banana/#{25D2EDF7-93F5-4A1C-AE66-DC145AF37EB5}

siege2050 · 07-13-2015, 11:15 AM

I took some old sheet rock, smashed it up into a powder (Gypsum) and applied it to the base of the plant, then later I found packages of Calcium Nitrate at the local Co-op that works well also. In my case the problem completely went away. But you need to check the PH to see if that is causing the issue.

scottu · 07-13-2015, 03:10 PM

The Best Way to Put Calcium in Garden Soil | Home Guides | SF Gate

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austinl01 · 07-13-2015, 10:02 PM

Excellent. That must be it. There is concrete residue deep in the soil.. Thanks guys.

austinl01 · 10-02-2015, 09:19 PM

Thanks all. The problem has cleared up thanks to your advice.

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07-09-2015, 06:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
siege2050 Hobby obsessor maximus Location: Oklahoma Find me on the map! Zone: zone 7 Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,092 BananaBucks : 363,875 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 854 Times Was Thanked 1,295 Times in 614 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 85 Times	Re: Near White Leaves I have issues in my yard due to low PH. In acidic soils some minerals become unavailable like calcium. Unless I treat mine with calcium nitrate, gypsum etc. I get stunting with some banana, especially Musa Sikkimensis. Whitish new leaves that are very thin and easy to tear, narrow leaves, and eventually spear like leaves that twist, with dead patches. Might not be the same, but the white leaves sound similar, as do the narrow description. You might check the PH and see what its like. Mine is about 5.5, pretty acidic. Perhaps it might also be the higher temps of summer, at high temperature growth slows. __________________ If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any Banana pudding! How can you have any Banana pudding if you don't eat yer meat?! Click for weather forecast

07-13-2015, 07:41 AM	#4 (permalink)
austinl01 Got pink bananas? austinl01's Photo Gallery Location: Little Rock, AR Find me on the map! Zone: 7b/8a Line Name: Austin Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,288 BananaBucks : 163,375 Feedback: 13 / 100% Said "Thanks" 1,590 Times Was Thanked 907 Times in 397 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 507 Times	Re: Near White Leaves Pics! [url=http://s24.photobucket.com/user/austinl01/media/Bananas/20150711_091418_zpsqojvwm1t.jpg.html] __________________ Austin Arkansas River Valley Average January Low: 31°F, Average August High: 92°F Extreme Winter Lows: 5-15°F, Extreme Summer Highs: 100-112°F, Annual Precipitation: 52 inches

07-13-2015, 11:06 AM	#5 (permalink)
siege2050 Hobby obsessor maximus Location: Oklahoma Find me on the map! Zone: zone 7 Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,092 BananaBucks : 363,875 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 854 Times Was Thanked 1,295 Times in 614 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 85 Times	Re: Near White Leaves Yeppers I am pretty sure that is calcium, deficiency, as least part of the problem anyway. http://www.haifa-group.com/knowledge_center/deficiencies/crops/orchards/banana/#{25D2EDF7-93F5-4A1C-AE66-DC145AF37EB5} __________________ If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any Banana pudding! How can you have any Banana pudding if you don't eat yer meat?! Click for weather forecast

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07-13-2015, 11:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
siege2050 Hobby obsessor maximus Location: Oklahoma Find me on the map! Zone: zone 7 Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,092 BananaBucks : 363,875 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 854 Times Was Thanked 1,295 Times in 614 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 85 Times	Re: Near White Leaves I took some old sheet rock, smashed it up into a powder (Gypsum) and applied it to the base of the plant, then later I found packages of Calcium Nitrate at the local Co-op that works well also. In my case the problem completely went away. But you need to check the PH to see if that is causing the issue. __________________ If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any Banana pudding! How can you have any Banana pudding if you don't eat yer meat?! Click for weather forecast

07-13-2015, 03:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
scottu <div style="font-weight: bold;"><div style="font-weight: bold;">&lt;div style=&quot;font-weight: bold;&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;di v style=&amp;quot;font-weight: bold;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&a mp;amp;lt;di v sty scottu 's Photo Gallery Location: Bethlehem,Pa. Find me on the map! Zone: 6 Name: scott Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,192 BananaBucks : 7,658 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,595 Times Was Thanked 857 Times in 368 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3,323 Times	Re: Near White Leaves The Best Way to Put Calcium in Garden Soil \| Home Guides \| SF Gate Banana pest and disease image gallery __________________ Viva La Banana

07-13-2015, 10:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
austinl01 Got pink bananas? austinl01's Photo Gallery Location: Little Rock, AR Find me on the map! Zone: 7b/8a Line Name: Austin Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,288 BananaBucks : 163,375 Feedback: 13 / 100% Said "Thanks" 1,590 Times Was Thanked 907 Times in 397 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 507 Times	Re: Near White Leaves Excellent. That must be it. There is concrete residue deep in the soil.. Thanks guys. __________________ Austin Arkansas River Valley Average January Low: 31°F, Average August High: 92°F Extreme Winter Lows: 5-15°F, Extreme Summer Highs: 100-112°F, Annual Precipitation: 52 inches

10-02-2015, 09:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
austinl01 Got pink bananas? austinl01's Photo Gallery Location: Little Rock, AR Find me on the map! Zone: 7b/8a Line Name: Austin Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,288 BananaBucks : 163,375 Feedback: 13 / 100% Said "Thanks" 1,590 Times Was Thanked 907 Times in 397 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 507 Times	Re: Near White Leaves Thanks all. The problem has cleared up thanks to your advice. __________________ Austin Arkansas River Valley Average January Low: 31°F, Average August High: 92°F Extreme Winter Lows: 5-15°F, Extreme Summer Highs: 100-112°F, Annual Precipitation: 52 inches

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