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Old 06-14-2009, 05:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Here are some pics of a project i've been working on for the last couple years. I will have enough to release a few this year if there is some interest in the hybrid. It's a cross between Musa zebrina and velutina. It comes out the ground as a bright red stem. I will take some pics of a new pup that is emerging this week as well.
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Old 06-14-2009, 05:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm very interested! Put me first on the list for this new hybrid! I love both velutina and zebrina. Any idea as to its cold hardiness?
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It has survived in my yard down to 26f without any problems coming back the next year at all. I am posting another pic of one of the pups coming up on one of my larger plants. I waited until I knew I had plenty available to release a few. I had no idea in the beginning that the pups would have such a deep red stem. I have found over the last few years that the red is much more vivid and longer lasting into adulthood by planting it in at least 50 percent shade. In full sun the variegation on the leaves as well as the red on the stems begins to fade.

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That red is amazing! Wow!
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Wow I wasn't really expecting to have a want list and just really thought I would post some pics as i've never put any pics of it out there before. I will keep a log in Excel on my computer for you guys when I divide some out. This year i'm hoping to cross my African Red and Musa siamensis. I have a stand of African Red that have never grown taller than 6 feet in full sun that I think would be great for breeding purposes.
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That is a very cool plant! Was this a cross with a Musa zebrina as the seed producer and a Musa velutina as the pollen parent? I would guess it is a velutina seed bearer and a zebrina pollen donor? Also put me down for one of these.

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A good result, I would like to look at him when he will blossom and the fruit will be.
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Add me to the list that looks great!
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Good work. I too am curious which way this cross was performed, technically whichever plant you list first is assumed to be the female, but this guideline is not always followed.

In my experience 'African Red' is sterile both ways, but don't let that stop you from trying, some plants are mostly sterile but will form seed under the right conditions or by chance. I couldn't find any pollen on mine, so it may only be possible as the female.
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Very Cool! I'd like to get on that list too! If that one's close to as hardy as Musa velutina, that would be awesome.

Gabe's right...'African Red' is completely sterile. Mine didn't accept pollen or produce it.
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I LOVE the red!!
Amazing & Beautiful!!
I am in with Andrei, I can hardly wait to see the flower & fruiting!!
If you're sharing, I'd love to be in on one of those beauties too!!!

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The pollen was retrieved from M. zebrina and the seeds were produced on M. velutina. I will get some pics of the bloom this summer. I now have a group growing in a shade area of my yard so I can find out if the red will hold out longer on the leaves with less sun. The leaves are quite shiny and almost have a waxy feel to them when they first appear.
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Gabe's right...'African Red' is completely sterile. Mine didn't accept pollen or produce it.[/quote]

Too bad about 'African red' as it would make a great parent plant.
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An astonishingly beautiful hybrid. Good work, pallie.
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Wow that's awesome, I wouldn't mind some seeds, have you tried any second generation seeds, are they stable? Does it even produce seeds?
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:38 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Looks pretty cool. You may as well put us all down for a pup! Shouldn't have opened your mouth, huh?
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The correct name for this plant would be "M. velutina X M. zebrina". Gabe is right when he said the mother is listed first in all hybrids. That is why I asked. So the correct way to name hybrids is "mother (seed bearer) X father (pollen donor)". It seems to be a minor point but doing the cross the other way could give very different results or in some cases similar, to the eye, results, but with different characteristics below the surface. In any case, that is a beautiful plant and you should be a proud Papa. MORE HYBRIDS! PLEASE.
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Just beautiful! Would never have thought to try only 50% sun with a banana, but makes sense on the coloration issue. My congratulations on a GREAT job!

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